Is something wrong with the World cup format?

@a_manick (879)
India
March 28, 2007 12:16am CST
I think, for sure, ICC would be scratching their heads to figure out how India and Pakistan had been eliminated in the group stages. Even in their wildest imaginations, they would not have thought about the current super-8 combination. They would be trying to find ways to mitigate the losses due to the exit of so-called 'commercial favourites'. I think the format of the World cup is to be blamed for the exit of India in particular. India is always a slow starter in World cup. If you have any doubts, go and dig the previous World cup results. 2003: India started off tentatively against Netherlands and lost to Australia, but still made it to the finals. 1999: India was almost eliminated after their loss to Zimbabwe and South Africa. Only some heroics from the likes of Ganguly, Dravid and Srinath brought them victories against Sri Lanka and England. Then they qualified to the Super 6. 1987: They started off with a loss to Australia in the first match, although by just 1 run. So, is the world cup format to be blamed? Will ICC look at changing the format in the future?
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@maliavi (19)
• India
28 Mar 07
Hi Friends, I think Indian team are not eligible to play for worldcup. So dont think about what happen. Just Enjoy the Game. Because when some one loose then only some one wins.
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@a_manick (879)
• India
30 Mar 07
Thats true. Thanks.
@chileman (967)
• Australia
28 Mar 07
I say bad luck if India are slow starters, they don't deserve to be in the top 8 if they can't beat Bangladesh. No way should they change the format, India and Pakistan just aren't good enough to be there this WC!
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@a_manick (879)
• India
30 Mar 07
Thanks.
@Sikh_Boy (230)
• United States
28 Mar 07
I don't think so because INDIA could have easily won against Bangladesh. India was just over confident yaar. loosing against Sri Lanka was a big deal because couple of months back INDIA won the series against Sri Lanka in INDIA.....thus in the end i would say that it is the INDIAN team over confident against team like Bangladesh which lead them to their loss. And for Pakistan they didn't have main players in their team so the loss was certain!!
@a_manick (879)
• India
31 Mar 07
Thats my point too. If just one bad day against Bangladesh going to kick them out, then it is unfair. Sri Lanka is a stronger team and any team might have won in their match up.
• India
28 Mar 07
Well, I would say that the format is just about right and it is all the teams fault because they were the ones to play badly not the other teams and I think that like the super 8's where each and every team faces each other, there should be more matches in the first round as well to identify the real competition and the real strong teams, otherwise luck can play a very very big part in such a big competition. This time, though, I think it was fair dismissal of the asian greats- India and Pakistan.
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@a_manick (879)
• India
31 Mar 07
I agree with you. Luck plays a part. Probably ICC should look at reverse matches in the group level. That might even prolong the tournament. But, I think, one bad day has cost India dearly.
• India
28 Mar 07
there is nothing wrong with the format, you loose two games and say that the format is not right, ok fine in one game it was not your day but what about the next one, you should have pulled up your socks and perfomed well. you give without any fight and then blame the system.
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• India
28 Mar 07
format of icc world cup is wuite right if some bigs teams lik india and pak cant beat newbies thn thy dont hav eligibility for the super 8 i thnk which makes sure tht world ll go into hands of team which perform consistincenlay n not lik india n pak
28 Mar 07
I was sceptical of the current format and the seemingly interminable length of the whole tournament, but after seeing Pakistan and India falter at the first hurdle, I have changed my mind. Being unashamedly pro-Australian I am glad that we did not suffer the same fate. Anything is possible in such a group format and I believe that this makes the tournament much more unpredictable and exciting. It is up to the participating nations to come prepared and do their best from the opening over of the opening game. In this case Pakistan and India did not do this and suffered the consequences. I believe they will have a completely different approach at the next cup. Good on the "minnow" nations who have taken a stride into the round of eight. It can only improve the appeal of cricket to the wider world in the long term. I have been suspicious that nations in the Indian sub-continent have a far greater say in the running of world cricket these days than is ultimately good for the future of the game as a whole. It will be interesting to see what repercussions occur to the format of future tournaments because of the premature demise of these two nations here. I hope sanity prevails and the contest remains fair for all nations, not just those that think they have a divine right to receive preferential treatment because of past glories. If Australia had suffered the same fate I would be devastated but admit that we did not prepare well enough and on the day were not good enough. Good luck to all the remaining nations and let the game be the winner.
• Antigua And Barbuda
28 Mar 07
Well i`m from the island of Antigua, and yesterday was the first match here in our country and it got rained out. so match will resume today. i hope west indies win today, beacause Australia put a good score up for them to beat in such short time. all the best wes indies!!!!
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@emisle (3822)
• Ireland
28 Mar 07
First off, I can't believe how well Ireland have done, I didn't even know we had a cricket team! And part of sport is the luck of the draw. Sometimes you get good fortune and other times you don't.
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@Bhutto (741)
• India
29 Mar 07
I see no fault in the format they placed two strong teams and two weaker teams in each group if Pakistan and India did not win ther matches it is their fault not the format.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
28 Mar 07
To me this is the beauty of competitive sports! You just never know what the outcome can be and it always comes down to who is the best team on the day. The India and Pakistan exit so fast was certainly unexpected but at least keeps things interesting! Go Australia!
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@a_manick (879)
• India
30 Mar 07
Seems like Australia is unstoppable.
@myfriendz (1226)
• India
28 Mar 07
as far as im concerned there is no faults with world cup format this is the best format in the world cup history india and pakistan have to blame their wrong playing strategies to be thrown out of the world cup any ways the show must go on
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@a_manick (879)
• India
31 Mar 07
Yes, the show must go on. In fact, before the tournament commenced, I also thought that this is the best format so far.
• India
28 Mar 07
format is fair... india is out of wc bcoz india played poor cricket not once but twice... india had chance to make to next round twice..... to be fair on icc no 3 of the top 8 teams were put in same group . its 2 among the top 8 and 2 minnows... so the format is pretty good...
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@tonyxxx (693)
• India
28 Mar 07
Well I don't think that there is any thing wrong with the format of the world cup.Since initially each group having 4 teams, 2 teams are either new or quite weak as compared to other teams in the group.So the format makes it sure that 8 teams that qualify to the super 8 will be the top cricket playing teams.But if teams like India and Pakistan lose to newbies then what can ICC do.Yesterday I saw on the Tv that ICC is also facing a huge loss because of the early exit of Indian Team.In the super 8 , the format ensures that every team plays against the other team, previously when there were only 2 groups it was said that some teams never play against eachother. The format is ok but the fault is in the Indian team.As your statistics show Indians are never confident or over confident, most of the times they perform terribly against weaker teams. If ICC continues to have losses , instead of changing the format they will fix some matches for India so that they can qualify for the next round as India is a money making machine for the ICC and India's early elimination proves a great setback to them.
@a_manick (879)
• India
31 Mar 07
Thanks for your comments
• India
28 Mar 07
To me it is not just the format of the game but it is the mind set of the players and too much media hype to be blamed. Cricket has been so much hyped and their stars are given the status of gods especially in India and Pakistan. The players has become much larger than the game itself. They are least bothered about anything but self. Whatever would had been the format the result would had been the same. Look at the instance of suspension of Flintoff from the team in world cup matches for just violating the board rules. In those places the game is the most important not the players.
• India
28 Mar 07
Ya thier was some strategic problem i think so that players where not well planed and were not in good form .Thats why they lose thier position in world cup.Indian team was not confident they where just doing adds thats why we lost the match.New players should come in team now.Now they should keep constant performence.
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@ajithlal (14716)
• India
28 Mar 07
I don't think there is anything wrong in the format of the WorldCup. There is only less games in the primilinary rounds compared to the super 8 rounds. The weaker team or the team, which does not don well get elimiated easily than the other teams. India did not played well against Bangladesh and Srilanka. There are only three games in the primilinary rounds and the team which has to qualify has to win at least two games. I think if there are five games instead of three games in the priliminary rounds in a group of three instead of four and 15 teams together than the chances of India and Pakistan getting eliminated is less. I think this format was made mainly so that the minors get less games three games in the World Cup, but it backfired and the teams like India and Pakistan got eliminated and Ireland and Bangladesh got into the super 8.
@ram_cv (16513)
• India
28 Mar 07
I actually think there is nothing wrong in the format. In fact, this is a better format than the one that was used before 1987 and I think this should work better for good teams. But, when India and Pakistan loose to teams like Bangladesh and Ireland, then they have only themselves to blame and no one else. I think instead of blaming the tournament format we need to take a hard look at the commitment of our boys which was pathetic over the first round. Cheers! Ram
@jigars (20)
• India
28 Mar 07
HI manick yes its very bad that India and Pakistan are out of WorldCup due to there bad performance.And i am with you that INDIA is slow starter in worldcup your all records are perfect and i am happy that you love india team so much.I am proud of you.My Friend i belive that its the matter of luck one team will win and other team will lose.Today india lose the worldcup but we have not seen the future we can win the next worldcup which is in Asia.I am dem sure that we will win the next worldcup.Just trust your team and have faith in it.I think worldcup format should not be blamed and it really dose not matter if format is changed because its the game one will win one will lose.
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• India
28 Mar 07
Cross Question#1: What does India losing matches do with the format of the game. The super-6 and now super-8, was a bad format, but now seems a good calculated gamble after performance of Bangladesh and Ireland. Initially there was lot of criticism about the initial matches being pretty straight-forward ones. But now it has added a bit of excitement. The plus point of this format is that: 1. Test teams get a couple of matches to warm up to the world and get it right. It helps coz sometimes the teams take time to warm-up and to peak at the right time (e.g. Pakistan in 1992 and Australia in 1999). 2. It gives the lesser teams chance to play against higher team and a win in a WC is a huge boost to such teams. On the flip-side the initially matches maybe boring one-sided affairs. But then as it turned out this was a successful gamble (though with financial losses), but didnt cricket win.
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