One In 32 Would You Do It?

@wolfie34 (26771)
United Kingdom
March 30, 2007 6:35pm CST
As some of you may know I am currently unemployed, after throwing my job in and taking up a new career in childcare, yes I know a man working in childcare is weird. I have been to college for 3 years and got my NVQ3 and have had 2.5 years experience working in a Primary School I have seen a job which I applied for and as soon as I made the enquiry they invited me for an interview, which I found strange not seeing my application form first? I made further enquiries and now I'm doubtful. It will mean changing nappies, (I have done this before) The Money is appalling The hours are long! I will be the ONLY male working with 32 women! The children are obviously aged 0-3 My qualification enables me to work with 0-8 year olds or older if they are handicapped or have disabilities. I much prefer to work with 6 and 7 year olds or children with disabilities. I just don't know what to do, any advise would be appreciative and if you were a guy would you do it. No disrespect ladies but I have worked in a nursery before and most female were very hostile to me and just did NOT like a man working in their nursery.
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
30 Mar 07
Ok Wolfie I am a lady but I will advise you if you are not going to be comfortable in the Job do not take it I totally understand where you are coming from definatly in this Day and Age I actually admire you for wanting to do this Job But,Love, don't just go for it if it is not what you want.
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@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
31 Mar 07
Sometimes I wonder, looking back that working for three years to gain my NVQ3 in childcare was wasted, I did gamble a lot by throwing my job in to start a new career. I can definitely see myself going back to my old career I hated and gave up on as it's not so heavily female dominated and I am experienced. Thanks my friend for your response.
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
31 Mar 07
Wolfie there are a few Males now that go for Childcare Give it a try Love as it would be a shame to have done all that hard work for nothing Try for the Disabled Children if that is what you want to do Where you are there should surely be a few Places
31 Mar 07
I did my NVQ 3 and I work in a nursery school. This job sounds like a daycare centre which is long hours bad pay and mainly just feeding, changing and getting them to sleep. I did this when I worked for an agency and it is so boring. With your qualification you should look to work with older children so you can put your studies to good use. Working in a school will be more rewarding for you so my advice would be to think twice befrore applying for this job. I know I wouldn't last very long. Its ashame you have experienced women not wanting you to work with them. More men are needed in childcare and should be seen as a positive aspects of any setting. We have a man who works at our nursery and he is accepted fully by all of us. I wish we had more men to tell you the truth. The kids love it and it is a more healthy setting to have both men and women working together!! If you feel doubtful about this job then maybe it isn't for you. Why don't you try joining an agency so you can get a feel of all different settings. I got my current job through working there first as an agency worker. If they like you they are more likely to take you on full time. This also happened with the man who works at our place. Don't give up though, I am sure there are alot of good settings you would feel happy to work in. I wish you luck and hope you stick at it. In a few years you could train to become a teacher as I am doing at the moment. Its such a rewarding job and kids really need dedicated teachers as there are so many NVQ 3 students who should never have even qualified. You will be an asset to the profession as you sound caring and conscientious in what you believe in. GOOD LUCK!!!
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@patootie (3592)
1 Apr 07
Well I would say do it .. you'll have a wage coming in and from being in a job you'll be more employable too .. many employers won't look at folks who haven't been in employment for a while .. daft isn't it .. Nothing wrong with pooey nappies either .. someone has to do it .. only I'm not sure how you get round the 'obvious' man cleaning female babies botties .. all too easy to get someone start saying you've 'touched inappropriately' .. stick with the boys I would say ..
@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
1 Apr 07
Good point my friend. I think it would make me more nervous, any woman who didn't like me could easily make up a story and then that's my career finished. Having said that they could still say I've touch inappropriately both sexes :0*(
@AskAlly (3625)
• Canada
3 Apr 07
Well you were looking for a job when you found this one. You can continue to look while you are employed! That would be my major concern. It may not be your dream job, but at least you would have one while you were looking for another. This is what we taught our children. Never quit your job unless you have another lined up. Seems to work for them. They have not been unemployed as yet. I am very proud of them.
@rosie_123 (6113)
31 Mar 07
Well Wolfie, there are two ways of looking at this, as I'm sure you know. If you feel uncomfortable about taking this job, then the dangers are that you will go in with pre-conceived ideas, and get stressed and leave quiickly, which will damage your self-esteem, and look bad on your CV and references which will make it harder to get another job in the future. However, if you want to work with kids and this is indeed an opoportunity to get some work-experience, you could go into it with a plan of staying there just for a shorttime and then move on, and then you won't feel so bad, or tied down to it. Whinchever way, it has to be your decision. I know it must be hard to face the hostility of the the women there - I guess they are just suspicious of a man's motives working in chldcare, which is sad for you, but I guess just a barrier you have to cross to prove yourself. I am a stubborn, pig-headed individua (LOL!) - if I were in your shoes I would take the job just to prove others wrong, adn show I was capable, - but you may not be the same as me, - and only you can know. Good luck whatever you decide.
@mummymo (23706)
31 Mar 07
Well wolfie I qualified in June 1988 with the quivalent of an nneb in nursery nursing and haven't used it that much myself but as a mother I have met one man in nurseries and I think that there should be more of them! Many children respond so well to male role models it is fantastic to see! I have only seen hostility to this man once - from a colleague of his but I don't think it was cos he was male - I think she was jealous cos the kids adored him! I think it might be an idea to take the job for now - while still continuing to look for something more suited to what you enjoy - at least you would have some money coming in, more experience on your cv and they do say that you are more likely to get a job if you are already working! I've said it before and I will say it again, there should be more men working with children and I applaud you! Let us know how things go honey - hope you are feeling ok! xxxx
@mummymo (23706)
1 Apr 07
forgot to mention - I was speaking to a good friend of mine (who worked at my daughters school nursery for 2 years!) who still works in the proffession , she told me to let you know that it may not be because you are a guy that you are having trouble getting the job you want it may just be that it is hard sometimes to get into the good jobs! In our area we have to either go into private nurseries first or go on a supply list and take the work as it comes! stick in there honey - it'll turn round for you! xxxxx
@shooie (4984)
• United States
1 Apr 07
Handicap - Rather work with Handicap
Wow I wouldn't be hostile if I worked in a nursery and a guy worked there. Men can do what we do just like some jobs women can do just as well as men. You could take the job and keep looking for another job. I would rather work with the handicap than babies myself. I did as a class for 9 weeks and was the best 9 weeks of my life.
@jmcafam (2890)
• United States
31 Mar 07
First off I am glad to hear a male is trying to make a positive mark in a child's life. There is a lack of males in the child care industry for various reasons. Now, it sounds like you just don't seem comfortable with the job that is offered to you. If you are not going to be comfortable you should look for something in the age group you are looking to teach in.
• United States
31 Mar 07
First sorry to hear of your lost job, I know how that can be, but even though it is not exactly what you are wanting I would go ahead and accept the position. We all have worked at places we hate for next to nothing just get by for awhile. Always easier to get another job while you have one. Good Luck
@junior07 (972)
• India
31 Mar 07
i think the reason of satisfaction in any job is that,if you are working in the same field in which you have experience or qualifications,just do ur job sincerely and enjoy ur job then after some time u realize that all these things are gone,these things arise when u r not enjoying doing ur job, when u get involved deeply in ur job then u have no time for these types of thoughts.
@dbeast (1495)
• India
31 Mar 07
hey man way to go for taking up the job if you are going to.this shows your love for kids.but on the downside the women out there will definitely be hostile because it is their territory you are entering.so in case you feel uncomfortable i dont think you should take it up.but if i were you i would give it a shot and see if i can adapt to the situation.if i feel out of place only then i ll be calling it quits.
@RobinJ (2501)
• Canada
31 Mar 07
Have you considered opening your own daycare? I think it would work, I know that my granddaughter has no male influence in her life as her father was only the sperm donor, and has no interest in her life, which is just as well as we found out that he has a fondness for little girls that is very inappropriate. It would be a good thing for her to have contact with male care givers. I am sure that women are insecure with your presence and the challenge for you to over come this. I have talked to several male care givers of handicapped and disabled children. the pay was a lot better and they only usually had one child to deal with, the other idea is have you considered working in a group home again the pay is better and you could eventually may open your own. There are a lot of people making excellent money if you are inclined and trained in that area, admittedly , you have to have a special ability to work with disabled children, not every one has, and is willing to do so. Do not despair your job is out there waiting for you to find it. Also do not try at just the usual day care, a lot of business are on the look out for good day care workers, Spa's. mall's, big companies, You could even approach them and look at their facilities and offer to start a center for children, they pay you, for a job you created. worth a thought.
• United States
1 Apr 07
The best policy and the one I live by is, if htere are misgivings, do not do it. Jobs are hard to come by I know, but to be in one where you may be miserable, and especially with children, since they can sense these things, could be detrimental to you and them. I say hold out a bit longer.
@9w2whi (108)
• Malaysia
1 Apr 07
sorry to hear your loss. i'm not sure how bad the situation is. all i can say is, do the work that you love. so when the bad time is coming, you would hold till the end cause you love the work. and working with the work you love will bring long smile into your faces
@weemam (13372)
31 Mar 07
I know you pal and I know you are great with kids , I think you would love it , I know you like children of all ages , I have heard it is easier to get a job if you are already in one ,you might make more contacts through this , please don't think all women would be like this pal , I think when they see you care and how caring you are they will appreciate you .I would give it a go , It will be another interest to you and you would be better out of the house fir a wee while , and at least it is working with children and that is basically what you wanted , I would say go for it pal , I bet you love it xx
• United States
31 Mar 07
If you truly wanted this position, I'd say go for it...male or not! I wouldn't let women or anyone else stand in the way of a career that would make you happy. I read a reply where you stated it's not where your heart is. If that's the case and you're already having doubts, I'd listen to my gut feelings. Your intuition is right at least 95% of the time. I'm sorry you had a bad experience in a nursery. Shame on those women! There ARE men who are very capable in that line of work, and yes this is coming from a woman. My partner is wonderful with our son and is just as capable as I am. We just tend to think a little differently.
@Naomi17 (624)
31 Mar 07
Why is a man working in childcare weird!my hubby has looked after our babies changed there nappies read stories done the lot, in can be rewarding job, the money might not be as good as you would expect but hey we all have to start somewhere1 I have worked in a nursery with a guy who was great with the children and no one picked on him in fact he was treated the same as me. Why not give it a go if it doesn't work out at least you've tried
@mssnow (9484)
• United States
31 Mar 07
I would say take the chance Wolfie. You never know theirs might be different. Maybe you could work your way up to the older children. Maybe the woman wont be hostile. how do you know unless you try. If you dont like it you can always just quit. No excuses my friend. go for it!! Hugs. You ready for the wedding?? lol
@joyce959 (1559)
• Philippines
31 Mar 07
Well wolfie, you said your qualification enables you to work with 0-8 year olds...so, no question that you can also work with 0-3 year olds. I think its much easier to handle 0-3 yrs old than older ones, because the babies especially 0-2 are not as active as the 4-8 year olds. You just feed them, change nappies, let them sleep. I think there are already some males who are into this kind of work. However, if you think you don't like it or will not be happy with it, then you have all the right to back out. I believe, if this job is not meant for you, there is still much better job waiting for you. Goodluck!
@pengqing (217)
• China
31 Mar 07
I understand your feelings,which is different from the values of the people.You ought to try to let more people accept you !I wish you a good feeling!!