Why we have to be hatefull to convince!! does it help?

Why Hate - Do we really need to be hatefull to convince others! does this help anyway?
@kamran12 (5555)
Pakistan
April 3, 2007 2:46pm CST
In last couple of days, i had a chance to go through many discussions, specially the controversial ones. i was really disappointed to see that people are calling names, abusing each other and showing hatred at maximum possible level. The most disturbing thing is that it is more in religious discussions than in other fields and further disappointing is the fact that the people who claim to believe in religion of love pour out more hatred through their key pads. I just wondered what's the reason behind? is it our arrogance, intolerance, disrespect for other's religions and views or some perticular person is the cause. even if some perticular person is a cause does his action make other people qualify to blame, abuse and disrespect the whole group, denomination or religion? I would really appreciate your participation, so that i can't also correct my own possible errors and faults.
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@TerryZ (22083)
• United States
4 Apr 07
Ive learned to just move over those discussions here on mylot because it doesnt get you anywhere. And you cant stop them no matter how hard you try its not going to stop. Its a forum with so many people from all over the world with different views. And yes hate is such a harsh word. Just enjoy mylot there are alot of great people here and just ignore the nasty ones. Maybe they will go away.LOL
• United States
4 Apr 07
TerryZ I know I get intense once in a while, but I love it. Just because some of us get intense and maybe a little out of line-according to some-doesn't mean that we are bad people. Please bear with us. We're all in the process of learning and growing.
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@kamran12 (5555)
• Pakistan
4 Apr 07
thanks for participation TerryZ. I do agre that when the discussion becomes personal, it doesn't remain a discussion and lead to nowhere. but i do hope that with respect and love we can bring all on board.
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• United States
3 Apr 07
It is sad that this has to happen. I come across that on other blogging and discussion sites, too. It seems to me that people who are like that are just too stubborn to see other opinions, and constantly have to be right. It does sadden me to see the anger on discussions on religion. No matter what your religion, you should act what your religion teaches you, which is mainly what the golden rule is. You should love everyone, and respect everyone's differences, and mainly, treat everyone how you want to be treated. It's a shame that there is so much hate in the world and that many wars have started because of religion.
@kamran12 (5555)
• Pakistan
3 Apr 07
thank you very much for your participation. i really have been under stress reading all that stuff and just couldn't resist to share it. i fully agree with your point that treat everyone how you want to be treated. I would also like to dd an apology. infact in my last line i made a typo mistake, so excuse me for that.
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@kamran12 (5555)
• Pakistan
3 Apr 07
i still missed a in add:-)
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@emarie (5451)
• United States
4 Apr 07
personally i think ignorance and lack of intelegance is what causes most of that name calling. especially in heated arguments and discussions, when you are caught in a corner with nothing to say, the first thing that comes to your mind is name calling. most of these people are young, and i mean, i'm young myself but i hate name calling, i hardly do anything to be hatful, but point out the obvious for most. i'm not always right, but neither are they. i've been involed with a lot of discussions. a lot about raising children, and the media infulance. it may seem like i'm being 'mean' sometimes, but basiclly i tell people to stop being so picky about every little thing. i've always thought the world was becoming way too sensitive for my tastes. but plain insulting just for the purpose of making someone feel bad is just wrong in my view. it gets you no where with your side of the discussions and makes yourself look like an idiot.
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@kamran12 (5555)
• Pakistan
4 Apr 07
thanks for contribution emarie. i would go with you that ignorance and lack of intelligence are causes of name calling. you have added some interesting points here. i too agree that it's wrong to make some one feel bad by plain insulting.
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@ajay44 (17)
• India
4 Apr 07
Yes this is comming from very long time. These things has got no end. The reson for this is every one will be taught what there religion does and other does not. they only tell what other religion does bad but which is not. But if you see bible,kuran/bagavat gita you come to know that all these preach same in different style. The interpretation made by leader of that community brings the differance and this will be there for ever. They can not come to a common conclusion of all religion and be peacefull without hatred
@kamran12 (5555)
• Pakistan
4 Apr 07
Ajay thanks for participation. I appreciate your point that about human values all religions are same and one of the causes of differences are the leaders but i do hope that by mutual respect we can understand each other better.
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@krayzee (1161)
• Romania
4 Apr 07
I don't think that simply by being hateful you get to convince anyone of your being right, on the contrary. My opinion is that there are people (immature or otherwise) who, when they run out of arguments, don't know what other means to resort to other than naming names and such. The religious field is particularly prone to that as I don't think anyone could convince another, just like that, that his religion is better than the other's. Hence the lack of arguments and the disrespect and so on. It has always struck me as very sad that people who want to preach love (because religion is more about that than anything else) resort to using hate for that. And they think it works too.
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@kamran12 (5555)
• Pakistan
4 Apr 07
Krayzee! thank you very much for your contribution and valueable input. I appreciate your thoughts and totally agree with them. same things bother me too.
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• Canada
4 Apr 07
I think lot of times, people respond aggresively because of fear. They're scared of something that's viewed as "different." Fear makes us do and say things we wouldn't normally do, and we also tend to go into defensive mode by attacking others belief systems. I've seen it time and time again, and yet people still do it. It's sad that this is what some of us have been reduced to.
• Philippines
4 Apr 07
That is sad... I have encountered some discussion like that and it made me think of how do they really see the teachings of their God? Its a sad thing that some people are decieve by thier intelligence and forgot how to go slow especially when giving hatred words. Me as much as possible I give my honest and true opinion in every discussion but I alway let myself choose the words I should give. Of course theres always some who will disagree with you and give you words saying that you are stupid or something but fighting with them won't do me any good.
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@kamran12 (5555)
• Pakistan
4 Apr 07
Lossforredwords! thanks for participation and contribution to the subject in hand. i really apreciate your position that one should choose the words before giving. thanks!
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• United States
4 Apr 07
I am surprised that someone (like you) would want to be changed by others (like us). I would never ever allow someone to take the edge off me. Everyone has a right to be snippy, obnoxious, overbearing, name callers. I don't plan on 'playing nice' with anyone. I am nice the majority of the time---it's my sweet nature. But I won't play nice just because that is the rule of the KINDERGARTEN class. Sometimes names are appropriate. You can call me anything you want, just don't call me late for dinner.
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@kamran12 (5555)
• Pakistan
4 Apr 07
Carlylaine! thanks for your participation. it's natural that one may get offended or angry or frsutrated by someone or some comment, but will it help if we call name in reply or speak hatefully? won't it take the other person further away from listening to you? you know when we show hate and when we name call, the matter goes out of discussion mode and enters into personal mode, which i don't think is gonna help anyone. it's good to know that your are nice majority of the time, won't it be just better if you could remain natural as you are all the time?:-) i appreciate your contribution.
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• United States
6 Apr 07
What you write is understandable and you are correct. The worst thing that I normally say is CONTROL FREAK. That's a nothing word compared to what is going through me head. I try to maintain my mouth or at least control the OTHER words rolling around in my head. In fact, after thinking this question that you wrote over, name calling is worse that plain cussing. Thanks for brining this out.
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• United States
6 Apr 07
What you write is understandable and you are correct. The worst thing that I normally say is CONTROL FREAK. That's a nothing word compared to what is going through me head. I try to maintain my mouth or at least control the OTHER words rolling around in my head. In fact, after thinking this question that you wrote over, name calling is worse that plain cussing. Thanks for bringing this out.
@youdontsay (3503)
• United States
3 Apr 07
People usually respond angrily from a place of fear. The fear difference of opinion because they aren't that grounded in their own. Religion probably is the most frequent area of intolerance. Doesn't make sense to me, either. If it is a religion of love, then showing disrespect and/or hate isn't showing love. You don't have to agree with something to accept that it exists. And you don't have to judge someone, call them names, if you disagree with them. We need to foster peace with the willingness to listen to each other without anger and judging. And most religions say they want to foster peace. Actions DO speak louder than words.
@kamran12 (5555)
• Pakistan
3 Apr 07
Nice to see you youdontsay. thank you very much for you entry:-) i really appreciate your views. it really doesn't make sense that when all religions speak of and promote peace than why there is more intolerance there.
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