To "kill" a loved one.....

@Marie2473 (8512)
Sweden
April 14, 2007 7:43am CST
Imagine that a person you love is in the hospital, In a coma, or just kying there. The doctors say that there is no way that he or she will ever be normal again, that he or she most likely never will leave the hospital or even wake up.. What if he or she is in alot of pain? Would you consider helping them to die, turn off their lifesupport? Here in sweden that equals murder and it is not allowed, however there is always a debate going on about it, wether it should be illegal or not.. If a person I loved was in alot of pain and it was sure that he or she never would wake up again, I think i would consider it. I would hate to know that every living day is torture for a person I love -At the same time - you can never know - doctors could be wrong... So share your opinions,.....
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21 responses
@Carlos21 (82)
• United States
15 Apr 07
Hi,Ive been in a situation like this where i had to decide, for the family, if we should let my relative receive pain killers for the late stage of her cancer and not survice or let her suffer in pain until she passed away. This was the hardest and most painful decision I have ever made in my life. I let her have the pain killers... When the end is inevitable like in this case, to stop the suffering would be the best and most fair thing to do. I don't consider it as murder because she woke up and told me it was ok to let her go because she was at peace with God. It's a tough decision and every case is unique.
@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
16 Apr 07
It is a very tough decision adn I am sorry u had to go through it.
@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
14 Apr 07
This will always be a contraversial issue, and people will never agree on the irght action to be taken in such a situation. Turning off the life support were a family member is concerned is not an easy decision to make, but if the person is in serious pain and wishes to end the misery then I would feel obliged to help whether the law agreed or not. I would be concious of the decision for the remainder of my life, but I feel that it would be the right thing to do. If I was in constant pain and never likely to have any quality of life again, what right has a perfect stranger to decide that I should continue to suffer for several more years because termination it does not agree with their principles.
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@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
14 Apr 07
Thanx alot for your comment. I am also torn when it comes to this matter!
• United States
16 Apr 07
i want to tell you a little story here. my daughter at the age of 12 was very sick, i tookher to the dr he said she had the flu, i believed him being a dr and all. i let it go for like 3 days but she just wasnt feeling anybetter she got sicker and sicker, i was about to go towork but something stopped me at the door told me to go take her to the er. so i did, thank god i did, he appendix had been reptured, she had gain green from the infection fromthe repture they did emergency surgery on her, but she just got worse they sent her to the pittsburg childrens hospital, a wonderful hospital, they did every thing they could for her, she had 2 surgeries, wasnt breathing on her own at all, they had her ina sudeuced coma, she was like this for almost 3 months, finnally the dr came to me and said we cant do no more for her, if she comes out she will be a vegtable, because she hasnt breathed on her own for so long, they wanted me to pull the plug on my baby. i went to the chapel and i prayed like i never prayed before, i asked god to give me one sign that i shouldnt pull that plug and she will be ok, after i left that chapel my ex husband and i went to go get something to eat,, remind you we never left that hospital sence we been there, we just for some reason decided to walk to the nearest restraunt to eat that day, while we are walking we see alot of homless people and i mean alot, but for some reason this one pituclar guy caught my attention, i seen him standing there and the song played in my head,, what if he is angel sent down from god,,, i got this weird feeling unning thew me,, i told myex give that man some money, he did, we ate went back to the hospital and my ex asked me out of all the homelesss why did you want me to give just thatman momey, i told him that guy was my sign from god, kisten{ my daughter) will be fine, we will not pull the plug on mybbay. the next moning she woke up, breathing on her own, she has no side affects at all. she is 00 percent perfect. what i am saying dont ever listen to a dr when it comes to pull the plug ask god he will let you know. and that homeless guy was neve seen by noone again, i asked alot of people who live in pittsbug if they ever seen him, they all said no , but if you descrribe someothe homeless person they can tell exactly who they are, that guy was an agel sent fom god telling me she will be ok.
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@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
16 Apr 07
I am so glad to hear that u got through this ok. Ofcourse it is a big decisiona dn something not to take lightly and in a rush. i am sure that if I would even take this decision than I would do it after a loong time had passed.. but what dio you thingk.. Say that u had pulled the plug... if God really wanted her to live - don´t you think he would have found a way for her to start breathing right there and then?
• United States
28 Apr 07
yes i do some way some how he would of showed me and thats why i think that guy was an angel telling me to hold on she will be ok.
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@mrsbrian (1949)
• United States
14 Apr 07
Here in America it is legal for the DR to turn the nachine off,or you can get a court order to have it done.I believe it is a mercy killing but I would not want to live that way as it is not a quality life. If God want you to continue living you will do so when the machine is turned off. I personaly could not turn the machine off because I would always wonder in my mind did I do the right thing.
@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
14 Apr 07
Thanx alot for your comment. I had no idea that it would be lagal in america.. you learn soemthing new every day =)
@natalie1981 (1995)
• Singapore
1 May 07
Ah, Euthanasia...Such a very hard choice. No, it's not legal here. I do believe that taking someone's life is still murder but like what the others say, I really don't like to see my loved ones suffering. If my loved ones are in pain and they've pleaded with me to do it then I might let the doctors do it, because I never want to see a loved one in pain but if they're only in a coma, I would still have hope. I wouldn't pull the life support system. I'd pray and pray and pray everyday and talk to them everyday so that they would come back to me.
@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
1 May 07
Yeah, i would like to think that I could let the doctors do it... i would hate for them to suffer.
@bad1981 (799)
• United States
15 Apr 07
If there is no hope at all for my loved one and the machine is jsut keeping them alive, then if it was their wish to not go on like that id help them with that decision of discontinuing their life support. I cant imagien going on if you have no quality of life left.
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@maryannemax (12156)
• Sweden
15 Apr 07
it's truly difficult to decide actually. but you're right, if there's no more life left, better end up the person's misery, right?
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@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
16 Apr 07
I would also consider it. If there is no way he will live, then why torture him/her!
@maryannemax (12156)
• Sweden
15 Apr 07
i think it's gonna be difficult for me to decide on that. it's hard to let go of a love one and decide on whether to take the life support out. but if i were the one on bed and on life support, i'd rather choose to take off the lifesupport than stay for many more days/weeks/months in the hopsital. i am just making those who care for me worry more and that i don't want to give them false hopes anymore. better if they can spend their time on other things than focussing much on me.
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@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
16 Apr 07
I would also like to be left to die in taht case - I would not want them to have to take that decision, so I have told them that if i ever end up like that and it is legal - to take me off lifesupport!
• India
15 Apr 07
I would remove the lifesupport.However painful it might be fo me but i cannot seem my loved one suffering every moment.But yes,if there was even 0.01% chance of survival then i would give it my 100% effort.
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@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
16 Apr 07
Thanx for your response!
• Philippines
15 Apr 07
I dont know. Its hard tio lose someone you love but when they are already sufferung that much and if they can only speak you know theyd ask to die already, then I wont help them get better anymore, is thats what they want.
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@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
16 Apr 07
Thanx for your comment
• United States
15 Apr 07
I'd let them go. If there is nothing you can do, let them go. Its best for them and you. Its harder to move on if they cant live any longer and you keep them here. Let them go, let them die. That is what I would do.
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@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
16 Apr 07
Ok, thanx for responding. I would also liek to belive that i would be able to let them go!
@wisedragon (2325)
• Philippines
15 Apr 07
It's hard for me to imagine making such a decision, unless the patient had given advance instructions that in such a situation he/she would want to be spared of the suffering. Also, miracles do happen. Sometimes doctors think that a patient is already hopeless, but then the patient survives!
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@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
16 Apr 07
That is the scary part - That miracles happen and culd happen. at the same time - ifa miracle was going to happen then the person will be fine , even without lifesupport!
@viper123 (29)
• India
15 Apr 07
I understand your feelings but I think it is right to kill a loved one if he/she is getting a lot of pain.Love is not to be live with each other in any conditions,love is the name of sacrifice.To keep a loved one alive allthough you know that your loved one is in severe pain is not just fair.If your loved one will be killed then it will be more painful for you but it may be the matter of happiness for the loved one.How can you see your loved one in pain.True love doesn't allow you to do that.Here it is not the matter that you can't keep your loved one with youself for life,the matter is that your loved one is in pain.If yours is true love then ask your heart then you will get you answer.
@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
16 Apr 07
Thanx alot for your reply. I agree with most of it
15 Apr 07
Yes I would let them switch the machines off if there is no hope, though the decision would be very very hard one to make. My loved ones wouldnt want to be kept alive like that, its comes up in discussions and they have all expressed that they wouldnt want to be kept alive just by machines, because really that isnt life anymore. That is artificially keeping a heart beating.
@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
16 Apr 07
the decision is ahrd for sure, but it gets easier when they have expressed tehir own will before you end up in that situation, atleast u know what they want and by doing so you are respecting their will!
• United States
15 Apr 07
Well, I think that if they told me that my loved one was in a lot of pain then I suppose that I would say to end lifesupport. However on the other side you never know, then next day might be the day that they come up with a cure or something to control the pain. And there is always the possibilty that the doctors could be wrong about them never waking up.
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@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
16 Apr 07
That is true but still , what if there is no cure and th man/woman just gets tortured!
@loved1 (5328)
• United States
30 Apr 07
I can understand why some people are in favor of this but I personally could never do that. It is a real test of faith to be in that kind of situation, but I truly believe that God can make some good come out of what seems to be hopeless. I hope I never have to find out.
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@liranlgo (5752)
• Israel
14 Apr 07
This is a very tough one marie. Here in Israel, we see things just like in Sweden, which means that killing out of mercy equals murder and it is not allowed. If you would ask me that a year ago, i would tell you a different answer then i am about to tell you now. i would have told you that if i knew this person all my life and knew how he feels about things and told me one time that if he was in a position that he is now, to please and set him free from all of his misery, i would do it, i would shut down all the machines and free him out of his misery. But about an Year ago i saw a special program in tv that told us, that those sick people can hear and feel us even if they are in a comma, then i started thinking, what if he changed his mind, and decided that he does not want to die, and is not able to tell me that because of his situation. am i to kill him? maybe he wants different things now, maybe god has different plans for him, and would set him free and make him recover. Who am i to do such a thing. I think that now, i will only be there for him all of the time, and hold his hand and hug him. (i hope that i won't be in a situation like this).
@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
16 Apr 07
Yeah, hopefully we never have to face this situation...
@kurtbiewald (2625)
• United States
14 Apr 07
I would kill them myself if it was legal in the nicest way possible, within reason lethal injection, whatever they do it for cats, why not for people at least they consider that sort of thing in Sweden, here its only in Oregon they even talk about it
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@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
16 Apr 07
yeah there is always an on-going debate about it. i think it will stay the way it is though!
@KissThis (3003)
• United States
14 Apr 07
In the US the doctors will ask the family if the would like to have the machines shutoff or do they want the family member left on life support. There are family members who argue about what to do. Not long ago a husband was battling his in-laws about shutting off his wifes life support. If I was the one being kept alive by a machine I wouold want my family to have it unplugged.
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@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
14 Apr 07
I would also prefer to have it switched of if i was the one lying there but i am not sure how i would react if it was my decision to make about a loved one, but keeping them around might also be a bit selfish!
• India
14 Apr 07
when i am in my school time then i have a friend whos name raka and he is my best friend , he always do every thing with me even all the bad thing as well as all the good thing we do together .. as my family as well as his family become together some time he live in my home for a week and sometime in my case .. as he help me to study as he always help me in the examination as we do cheating together in the exam...but one day when we gonna for a walk in our own city then for save me he strike the car and become injuired then i took him to the hospital and then all my family as well his family come to hospital doctor say that his position is so critical he cant be back and his condition is so rare that i cant see him in that position then at the same time all have go to other room and i and my friend is alone in that room he is crying that please leave me free but i cant do that ....and i think about all the time which we pass together..and then he ask me to leave him then i wanna to help him one one min is a fight for him so i do that ......after that i cant ..... what about you..
@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
16 Apr 07
Didn´t really understand.. did u help your friend to die?
@kyutstudph (1263)
• Philippines
31 Jul 07
Euthanasia is a rejection of the importance and value of human life. People who support euthanasia often say that it is already considered permissable to take human life under some circumstances such as self defense - but they miss the point that when one kills for self defense they are saving innocent life - either their own or someone else's. With euthanasia no one's life is being saved - life is only taken. History has taught us the dangers of euthanasia and that is why there are only two countries in the world today where it is legal. That is why almost all societies - even non-religious ones - for thousands of years have made euthanasia a crime. It is remarkable that euthanasia advocates today think they know better than the billions of people throughout history who have outlawed euthanasia - what makes the 50 year old euthanasia supporters in 2005 so wise that they think they can discard the accumulated wisdom of almost all societies of all time and open the door to the killing of innocent people? Have things changed? If they have, they are changes that should logically reduce the call for euthanasia - pain control medicines and procedure are far better than they have ever been any time in history.