Atheist against Atheist movement... atheism is not a religion/cult
May 9, 2007 6:41pm CST
Atheists are usually known as smart, reasonable people who understand the world and are usually against the cult like aspects of religion. (although this may not be what all atheists are like, i would bet that 99% of the reasonable ones are like this) However, in Europe there has been a huge atheism movement, and i, as an atheist, am against this. Atheism itself is against religion, and for us to go and be a religion to debate religion is ironic. these people meet every Sunday to talk about the benefits of atheism. Really? Is that not hypocritical and selfish? Atheists don't need a group, we are strong enough as an individual.. most atheists are able to debunk anything religion throws at them, the true atheists, and they wouldn't need to hide behind a cooperation. what do you think about this subject? do you understand where im coming from? If your an atheist, how do you feel about this movement? What about if your religious?
• United States
9 May 07
Very interesting. There is another message board I visit for work at home moms and they have folders for differing religions. In one of these folders, someone asked, "why isn't there a folder here for Atheists?" My first thought was to laugh (not being rude but sort of thinking, "huh?"), so I responded with a polite "what would you discuss?" I agree with you. It seems odd that Atheists would want to organize into a group when they are (the ones I know) against organizing for purposes of religion. I am not exactly atheist, though I do not follow ANY of the thousands of organized religions. I believe in higher power but am more inclined to think it is a far stretch from what most of us perceive as "religious" or "God-like" and that it can be tapped into by anyone.
• United States
16 May 07
On the most basic level, human beings are pack animals. We are impelled by nature to form groups. On the modern level, people who don't band together with like minded people have no political power. I think an atheist's union would be cool, as long as it wasn't formed for the purpose of telling people how to be a "good" atheist! On the other hand, the gatherings you describe sound kinda pathetic. What's with the Sunday get togethers? One of the very best things about being an atheist is getting to sleep in on Sunday mornings! In order to be effective in promoting change, there would need to be meetings, but there's absolutely no way I would participate in anything that even remotely looked like an imitation of religion. Humankind has been enslaved by the fairy tale that is organized religion for far too long. Free your mind, and your self will follow!
16 May 07
lol...yes on a political level its okay, its actually needed to represent us... but when you start going to sunday "how atheism is good for your life" get togethers.. the thing(im assuming) most atheists like going to are debates, either against theists or other atheists on the origin and afterlife and so on..
• United States
18 May 07
Argh - spare me from ANYONE who wants to proselytize with regard to religion, no matter their viewpoint. American atheism has never really recovered from the lousy image it got around, hmm, what was her name, Madeline O'Hare, or something like that? Everybody thinks we're all dowdy old spinsters who can't get laid. It just might be time to try to get together and put a modern face on it. I have a bit of a radical take on the origins of the afterlife and everything else to do with organized religion. I believe it all began way back, before the Romans, Greeks, Egyptians, etc, most human society was matriarchal. There were far fewer males than females, just enough to vary the gene pool and drive off other males. (This is after we entered the farmer phase) As humans got more intelligent, males must have felt somehow shortchanged by not having more access to females. Over time, a mythology started to form about superior beings who came to be called gods, which, over the millenium, became God, Yaweh, Allah, etc. (Yes, my friends and I did lots of bonghits and hashed this out back in the dorm!)