What do I do with a duaghter like this one??????

@mummymo (23706)
June 4, 2007 1:13pm CST
This morning my 5 year old daughter Niamh asked if she could take a cute neck purse to school with her, I told her this was fine as long as she looked after it. As she was dropped off from school I couldn't help but notice that she had a full make up mask applied to her face! Bright pink lipstick with glitter gloss over the top, lilac shimmery blush and my (only) good eyeshadow all over her lids ! Turns out that before she asked to take the purse she had very sneakily put the makeup in, so in her mind when I said she could take the purse that meant she could wear the makeup, only logical - to her at least! The second sneaky part came as I phoned Dad at work to let him know what had been going on, as he won't be home til almost midnight, he wanted to speak to her. As she took the phone she lifted a plastic sandwich wrapper from her lunch bag and as soon as he asked why she had taken the make up to school and put it on she started rustling the bag and saying 'sorry Dad, I can't hear you, what was that? there is a lot of buzzing on the line' (he was using a cell and believed her!) I have no idea where on earth she got the idea for this as I have certainly never done it! lol What do you do with a 5 yr old like that, hug her cos she makes you laugh or punish her for being sneaky? What on earth am I going to be up against by the time she is a teenager? Do you have a child like this? What did you do and how did they turn out (if they are older)? Someone help me before I am totally bald before pulling out my own hair!
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@raydene (9871)
• United States
4 Jun 07
Chill Doll, She is a above average 5 year old that is thinking. Give her credit for being so smart then say 'but it wasn't very nice to lie to Da'. Always give the compliment first then slide the but 'you shouldn't' in quietly after. You know what a time I am having with your little American sister and her antics.With that in mind you'll understand if I don't give any more advice... Don't even tell my granddaughter that I am laughing my head off as I type...That's my little cutie...I would have loved a pic of her in full makeup...heheehe xoxoxoxoxo
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@mummymo (23706)
4 Jun 07
Thanks mom - you tell that little sis to come over here to her big sisters and I am sure her niece will sort her out! lol That is a good idea , I really like the compliment first and the little but at the end - I am going to try that! As soon as I get my photo software sorted out I will send a photo - she does it at home quite regularly - just at school omg! I have laughed too but it is so hard to keep a straight face in front of her! lol Love you! xxxxxx
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@raydene (9871)
• United States
6 Jun 07
I've been there don that...Sheilana came home from school very different then how she left mant times..tehe
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@hookfan (447)
4 Jun 07
Sounds like she just used her own logic on you. She figured it was ok to take the purse (and its contents too), simple child logic. As for the trick on the phone, maybe she got it from TV? She sure does sound cute though :D xxx
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@mummymo (23706)
4 Jun 07
Yes logic comes into it - slightly warped perhaps but logic just the same! lol She is too cute for my good hookfan - she definitely keeps me on my toes! xxxx
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@hookfan (447)
4 Jun 07
LOL the joy of having kids mummymo! :D Though I don't have any of my own it is nice to hear about your very cute and fun daughter! :) xxx
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@mummymo (23706)
4 Jun 07
Thanks hookfan - I have some humdingers saved up - couldn't tell them here - I'd be too embarrassed! As long as I don't bore you that is ok! xxx
@Foxxee (3651)
• United States
5 Jun 07
LMAO! That has to be the cutest thing. You have to hug her, but then again, you don't want her to keep doing it. I mean maybe you can just tell her what she did was wrong and that she isn't going to be able to bring anything extra to school anymore, only her backpack and that is it. And that she shouldn't do that with her dad on the phone. LOL! As much as we want to laugh, I'm sure we don't want her doing this everytime she gets in trouble. But what is a mother to do. That has to be the cutest story I heard today. I'm sure she is going to give you a run for your money. LOL!
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@mummymo (23706)
5 Jun 07
GOING to give me a run for my money - she has been for 5 years Foxxee! I do agree with you - whilst all I wanted to do was laugh we have talked about why we don't do these things, I must admit though there are times I am tempted to try her phone trick but I ain't gonna tell her that! Glad you enjoyed the post sweets! xxx
@shambuca (2524)
• United States
4 Jun 07
LOL-- pretty smart kid. They do that staic thing on TV all the time- I have seen it done on several shows and in movies. You think thekids don't pick up on it but they do, either that or their friends do and tell them about it. I was a horrible teenager and have no kids of my own except my nieces and nephews (which is plenty enough for me - they keep me quite busy) I wish I had some wonderful advice for you- however the only thing I would say is just talk to her about what right and wrong- and give her a warning. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT ONE_ would love to hear future stories.
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@mummymo (23706)
4 Jun 07
Thanks for the good luck wishes Shambuca- I really do need them! lol I suppose she could have picked it up from anywhere - the real problem is she is too smart! I will be sure to share some other stories with you honey - only remember to yell if I start boring you! xxx
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@mummymo (23706)
6 Jun 07
Yep she sounds like a good un! lol Thanks for sharing that one! Niamh would never mess with her teacher - anyone else her teacher NO WAY - she absolutely adores her! lol xxx
5 Jun 07
It's amazing what kids lcan learn from television - lol I can't help but giggle at your daughter though, hun, what a very resourceful child. At least I never had this problem with my son, although he did manage his fair share of tricks. My son is now almost 22 years old and quite a responsible adult, but it does make you wonder sometimes just how your children will turn out, especially when at only 5 years old she can be so clever.
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@mummymo (23706)
5 Jun 07
yep that is my new word for her 'resourceful'! I have my hopes for her futures and try not to think of the fears sweets! lol I am glad that your son has turned out well and I hope I can say the same down the line - and it hopefully won't be from an asylum somewhere! xxx
@mel_87 (856)
5 Jun 07
lololol oh mummymo that is so funny a 5 year old doing that she is so clever lol maybe she got it off the telly lol
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@mel_87 (856)
6 Jun 07
lol awww bless her, parent trap is a brilliant film, i never think to do that when i dont want to talk to someone lol
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@mummymo (23706)
6 Jun 07
Well now you know what to do sweetheart! lol xxx
@mummymo (23706)
5 Jun 07
just found out she got the phone rustle thing from the film 'Parent Trap' lol She thinks she shouldn't be in trouble cos she didn't invent the trick, just copied it! lol I will never win I fear! xxx
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@addysmum (1225)
• Canada
4 Jun 07
I would give her a little of both. Let her know that sneaking is wrong by giving her some kind of punishment and give her a hug just because you love her. All the while laugh to yourself over the funny aspects of what she did. She is five and probably saw the bag thing on t.v. (I have to say that is funny). Enjoy the years now because the teen years are coming and the rest of your hair will either come out or turn grey.
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@addysmum (1225)
• Canada
4 Jun 07
Tell me about it. I have a 3 year old and one on the way and my little guy is a hand full. He seems to find new ways of pushing my buttons every day. Got to love them. My mom used to say to me if I didn't love you I wouldn't punish you. Now I get it.
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@mummymo (23706)
4 Jun 07
Now that is my type of advice - thanks addysmum! Trying to keep the laughter away whilst she was there was so hard! I already have a teenage son and thought he was bad - he has never been anything like his sister though! lol On the whole I have 2 wonderful kids but boy oh boy do they make you work hard? lol xxxx
@mummymo (23706)
4 Jun 07
That is a handful - I have two but they are eight years apart! I'm glad to hear your mum said that, cos I do too so hopefully mine will turn out well too! When are you due your new bundle of joy? xx
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
5 Jun 07
well ya got to do something think I would tell her its not right to be sneaky and that next time it would result in a punishment corner or something even a whack on bottom maybe then you have already laughed about it! right? And she probaly say the phone thing done in a movie they pick up stuff like that . good luck with her hugs
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
6 Jun 07
Oh ya bet she will!!!!! glad I can get on altho it is an off and on deal again got a tech coming out MOnday Yeah have to wait a week for him grrrrrrrrrrr. If I am on line my daughter cant get on line and the other way arounbd and I pay ertra for other puter to be on line she called and bawlled them out today about it and asked was they gonna charge us for half the months since we have all this trouble! they said they couldnt do any thing about it grrrrrrrrrr
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@mummymo (23706)
6 Jun 07
Hope that you get everything sorted out real soon sweetheart!
@mummymo (23706)
5 Jun 07
Thanks Lakota honey! I have already laughed though not in front of her! We also talked and she promised not to do it again but I know she will think of lots of other things! Good to see you sweet! xxx
• Canada
4 Jun 07
that's why you should punish her now, before she keeps up things like this. if she learns now she will be an easier teenager to deal with. of course what she did was kind of cute but you keep that to yourself and give her a talk about why you can't do these things. good luck
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• Canada
4 Jun 07
right. i didn't mean a severe punishment. to me punishment for my almost 4 year old is usually a short time out and a talking to. i definately think if you talked to her aobut the sneaking and lying then you've done your duty. that's exactly what i would of done. but what i meant is that just laughing cuase it's cute and smart and ignoring what she did do wrong would be wrong to do.
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@mummymo (23706)
4 Jun 07
oh believe me poppoppop I know that and I totally agree with you! I am forever having to nag Daddy as he just laughs (in front of her) which is annoying as it makes her think she is funny (she is but I would rather she doesn't get more full of herself!) and more inclined to go further! I feel as though I am forever talking to her about not doing things , and I am pretty sure she knows exactly what she is doing - she is just trying to push the boundaries! I agree with you too about different levels of punishment, I think I am a bit too protective because of the problems she has had! Thanks for your advice - I really do appreciate it! xxx
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@mummymo (23706)
4 Jun 07
I understand your reaction but I will say in her defence she is very bright (too bright for us sometimes) and at school she is way ahead of where she is meant to be in most stuff! She is a year ahead in maths and reading, well ahead in everything else - I have been told by many proffessionals that she has been involved with - speech, physio and occupational therapists that if she wasn't quite so clever and had a different way of thinking she would still be suffering badly against several difficulties she was born with! I think that is why I find it hard to be too severe with her at the moment unless she is very cheeky or downright rude! I have spoken to her about sneakiness and lying as that is the worst thing! xxx
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@someonesmom (5761)
• Canada
5 Jun 07
Your daughter sounds like she's very mature for her age, mummymo. The part about being on the phone with her dad, and crumpling the paper, is truly funny. It reminds me of those t.v. shows, and movies, where someone does the same thing, and then says "I can't hear you, you're breaking up." My daughter is almost 16, and displayed some 'mature' behaviour at the age of 5 as well. She used to sneak some things out of the house, that she wanted to show her friends at school, or while playing outside. When I disciplined her for various things, by sending her to her room, she'd actually march downstairs with a small suitcase, and announce to me that she was running away. She did this on more than one occasion, and of course, never got out the door, but it was very hard to keep a straight face. Today, she's a bright, outgoing, hardworking young lady, and those days seem like such a long time ago. For me, in the scheme of things, looking back, it's not all that big a deal to me anymore, as far as her behaviour at that young age goes. I'm pleased with the way she's turned out, as I'm sure you'll be with your daughter too.:)
• Canada
5 Jun 07
You're very welcome, mommymo. My daughter used to get upset when we'd 'laugh' at her too, but it was hard not to, as some of the things were just 'so cute.' She's just left for her 4th shift at her new job, and is seeming so grown up these days. Make sure you enjoy every moment with your little one, as I found, while I was 'in the moment' when she was small, I didn't realize how quickly the time would fly by. A friend mentioned to me on the phone today, that my daughter would soon be ready for university or college. She has no kids, and I thought, whoa, slow down. I'll just take things a day at a time, thanks.:)
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@mummymo (23706)
6 Jun 07
Thanks for the reminder about enjoying this time someonesmom - I had a little reminder of that tonight already! xxx
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@mummymo (23706)
5 Jun 07
Thank you so much for the reassurance someonesmom, it really does mean a lot to me! I like the way you look at it 'mature' behaviour! She hasn't threatened to leave home yet but she does get irritated if we laugh at her! I will cherish these moments, have a stern talk with her and remember to wipe the tears of laughter from my eyes! lol xxxx
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@Woodpigeon (3710)
• Ireland
4 Jun 07
I do, but god help me, mine is a boy! I used to find him all gusssied up in lipstick and so forth. NOw that he is older, and we have many a Hallowen under our belt with elaborate make up and costumes (he was King Tut on year, the Wraith from SG Atlantis another year, etc) we have gottne a lot of that out of his system.We are now veering more into the Sid Vicious look when he gets 'dressed up'!
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@mummymo (23706)
4 Jun 07
Good grief you have your work cut out with those costumes honey! lol Quite often I don't have to think about dressing up costumes - she ermmm 'adapts' them for herself! Glad I am not alone! lol xxx
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@azimsay (543)
• India
4 Jun 07
Big people also doing this mistak then what is this smaall daugter doing same mistac.That bag was fine but she loss that.Daughter is very cstly and important in your life.Forget that bag and bring second one for her.
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@mummymo (23706)
4 Jun 07
Thank you azimsay - she didn't actually use the bag though - she hid make up in it and then put it on at school! xxx
@cmsk2005 (1770)
• United States
4 Jun 07
I just liked this very much and I love to see this from a child like your (I liked ur sweet daughter in the photo). This is very enjoyable. Dont worry as this is the age for doing these kind of things. So U can get some idea about her development in other way right? She can think how to create some real sound like buzzing inside phone line, she can think lot of things in this way which will help to explore her in future. Just let her grow in this way. Can we remember we also have done such thing and grown up with no problem!
@mummymo (23706)
4 Jun 07
My daughter had had lots of little difficulties to overcome in her life and needed speech therapy, physiotherapy and occupational therapy! All have told me that if she was not so clever and didn't 'think outside the box' she would still be trying to overcome these problems, she is also a year ahead in maths at school and way past the upper level her reading should be at so I don't worry too much! She is also a pretty good kid but you are right I will look on it as her developing! Thanks honey - and I am so glad that you could laugh at this! xxxx
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@maehan (1439)
• United States
4 Jun 07
I have boys that same age with Niamh and one is a year older than her. I can understand how you feel. Till today, they yet wanted to bring stuff to school as their school do not allow them to do so. But, these boys are nice and lovely in front of their daddy and transform into a monster when with me. At times, they are angel and times they are monster. Everyday, over and over again, I had to tell the right and wrong. They are still kids that still unable to identify clearly what is right and wrong. What we can do is talk, talk and talk.
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@mummymo (23706)
4 Jun 07
You are so right maehan we have to talk with our children all the time! My daughter is more likely to be naughty in front of Daddy than me! Mum is usually the one she behaves for! lol Sometimes they like to push the rules - just to see how far they can get, it is normal but oh so frustrating! I am sure your boys will turn out just fine honey - they are being given a very good example! xxx
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@weemam (13372)
6 Jun 07
I had to stop laughing before I could answer this one , I have 2 teenage granddaughters mo and she is just being a typical little girl , I used to pray to God that my son could do Normal things " when he was little ( not make up lol ) you know what I mean , just enjoy these times with her you can still be strict but have fun , she loves you and looks up to you she is a well behaved and lovely we girl she is growing up just as she should xx
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@weemam (13372)
7 Jun 07
I am just so pleased she is feeling better . tell her night night and God bless xxxx
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@mummymo (23706)
7 Jun 07
Glad you enjoyed this wee! Thank you for the reassurance - espescially as you know her so well! Niamh is going to try and sleep in her own bed tonight cuddled in to Kayleigh! xxx
@sarah22 (3979)
• United States
7 Jun 07
well, if that was my daughter. after the call i would sit her down and ask her why did she do that to the phone? then i would ask her to go and wash her face and come back to talk. she might have seen it over at one of her friends house.my daughter has asked me to wear makeup and i have told her not until she is old enought to understand why women wear it. and that she is too young and will will mess up her skin. i too would give her a light punishment, like no friends over for one week after school if she has any coming over. its hard but if they understand why now, then later i hope for both of us,things will be easier. best of luck mummymo........
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@mummymo (23706)
7 Jun 07
I understand exactly what you are saying sarah! Thing is the only thing that made me angry was the sneaky way she took the makeup and put it on - I don't mind her playing with it at home and playing around - I think it is a natural girl thing to do - I used to love wearing make up and now I hardly ever wear it! As for the phone thing I know it comes across as cheeky but I think she was just trying to make us laugh, she is a little comedian! I really appreciate your concern and advice sarah - thank you! xxx
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
4 Jun 07
Well I will make no comment but Niamh thank you for the Idea that is just brilliant and I will certainly remember that one Well Mo I will not tell you that this Girl certainly is very smart and she has had me laughing and of course I would give her a Hug I mean come on the little Sweetie knows how to get out of it Hope she got my E-Mail Love you xxx
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
4 Jun 07
I will find her some more soon I am just not in the right frame of mind at the Moment lol I will look forward to your Call and give her a big Hug xxxxx
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@mummymo (23706)
4 Jun 07
Can you imagine her and Gissi together - now there would be a battle of wills! lol GTlad she made you laugh - knew she would! She got your email and loved the tinkerbells! She is desperate to mail you back but it has been a bit of a 3 ring circus here just now - will try and phone tomorrow to explain - nothing bad though, so don't worry! xxx
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@lols189 (4742)
13 Aug 07
aawww she is so cute mummymo. i would of laughed my head off if i seen her in make up. i wouldnt punish her for it. she wants to have a little fancy dress now and again with the make up. aaww it is so cute lol
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@mummymo (23706)
13 Aug 07
Thanks lols - she is cute and she loves to wear make up - it is really funny to watch her doing it - she is better at applying it than I am ! You know the way she is I have just started looking into a drama school in our area - just what sahe needs! What have I done - I am preparing for the even more extreme dress up now! lol xxx
@mssnow (9484)
• United States
5 Jun 07
UH OH!! Even though it is cute and five years old will be quite cute. You gotta do something now or it will get worse. Have a talk with her. tell her that you didn't say she could wear make up just because you allowed her to take her purse. Also ask her why she was being sneaky with her father. Tell her that that was not nice and it is not to be tolerated. Mummy, I know you and I were the youngest and were both spoiled rotten but you don't have to do the same with your kids lol. I am sure your daughter is lovely. She has a wonderful mother. XXXXX
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@mummymo (23706)
6 Jun 07
aww sweet snow - thank you so much for those kind words! Think you are too late in warning me not to spoil her! Actually she is spoilt but I also come down hard on her for the important things - like lying - so we have talked about that one! She could be a lot worse , I could be completely bald instead of only pulling out half my hair! lol xxx
@Melody1 (967)
• India
4 Jun 07
Hi mummymo, I'm so thrilled to see you back my friend.I'm sure you are fully fit and fine now.xx Ah,mummymo,I can fully empathise with you.My younger one is eight year's old and she does the same too.Infact it's a relief to know that other girls are also upto same pranks.She is so addicted with the mirror and vanity stuff,it's hard to take her mind off it,specially now,as summer vacations are going on and most of the time she is at home. She finishes her school assignments fast early in the morning and then feels free to pursue her make belief modelling career.She also is very inspired by the ballerinas in barbie movie(I don't remember their names,I think its Fairytopia?) I thought my elder one never did so,but yesterday she said she too used to do the same without being caught.Now,can you feel my plight. But one heartening factor mummymo is this,that my elder one is now 17 and a very normal teenager(a very good student too).So,this tells us not to worry.Things will be alright when they grow up,but,we have to guide them well. So here's wishing all the good luck to both of us.:-) Take care.xx
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@mummymo (23706)
4 Jun 07
I am so pleased to hear from you Melody! I am not quite recovered yet - still have another month or so and then the hard physiotherapy begins but I am on the mend - thank you for thinking of me sweetheart! Our summer holidays do not start for another 3 weeks or so yet I feel as though Niamh is in a state of readiness to wreak havoc! lol Fairytopia is the right name for Barbie Ballerina and yes I too am relieved I am not alone in this vanity of little girls! I forgot to mention her shoes and socks ( and legs) were covered in mud and bruises as she had been jumping in the puddles, she had a very pretty, fully made up face and a muddy , dirty bottom half! I am glad that your eldest is doing well and that indeed is a comfort Melody! I think we both need that luck with our younger girls! lol Speak soon xxxxxx
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@mummymo (23706)
4 Jun 07
It is only 9:30 pm here but I have been known to be on mylot at that time! lol Glad to make you laugh honey! Get some sleep! xxxxxxx
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@Melody1 (967)
• India
4 Jun 07
Lol.Reading the condition your little one came back from school,I'm finding it hard to stiffle my hearty laughter.(its 2 O'clock night time here,and everyone's fast asleep). Thanks sweetheart for making me laugh so much.:-D Hugs and do take good care.xxx
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