The history of the Bush family this was a real shocker

United States
July 11, 2007 2:51pm CST
Ok anyone who knows me by now knows I have become what they would call disillusioned (opened my eyes) to all the corruption that is going on in our government. I am and always have been an independant and have voted for who I thought would do the best job. Well that said its not easy to see I am not a Bush fan either, I ran accross this today http://www.hereinreality.com/familyvalues.html of course its a anti-Bush sight but I have checked about half of it so far and out of the multiple things on it everything I have checked out is true so far. So that being said I will leave the rest of it up to you readers to pick through and see what you think of it and if you find any lies in it.
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@jbrooks0127 (2326)
• United States
11 Jul 07
I also have declared myself as independent. I have done this only within the last two elections. I feel it harder and harder to find good candidates for President in any party. I did not vote for President Bush, either time. The first time around I felt it very difficult to find a good candidate but went with Gore. Could have stayed home. He did not stand a chance. There are so many things that I see the white house do now that is unbelievable. Every day there seems to be something else that is not logical. I have not followed your link but I do know there are too many things about this administration that is not good. I honestly feel that if the republicans would have controlled congress there would have been a bill passed extending the number of terms a President could serve. If that ever happens we will know the people of the United States are no longer part of the process. President of the United States is a difficult job and my hat is off to anyone who thinks they can do it. The majority of people are responsible for who becomes President. God help the next person that takes this office because they are going to need it.
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• United States
11 Jul 07
Thank you for your reply. yep that pretty much sums up my feelings on politics lately also.
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• United States
13 Jul 07
jbrooks, you have declared yourself independent because you want to be a lazy voter. Then you betray the country with voting for a loser like Gore. As far as republicans controlling congress in order to pass a bill in order to extend presidential terms was ludicrous. You need to go and get some air in order to clear that smoggy thinking of yours. See, that is the problem with people who go "left". They believe in too many paranoid conspiracies and they have no "facts" to back up any of it up. I think liberals as well as democrats have some sort of mental disorder.
• United States
1 Aug 07
Now isn't that curious, a prospective law student who likes to think himself the intellectual superior of all us other lowly myLotters, who fails to taunt us with the slamdunk factual part of the debate? It would require an amendment to the Constitution to repeal Amendment 22, limit of Presidential terms, to extend anyone's Presidency beyond its very specific Constitutional limits. Even if every single member of both Houses of Congress voted for such an amendment, it would still have to be ratified by three-quarters of the States. How did someone as belittling of the intelligence of others miss that one, oh Blinding Braintrust?
@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
11 Jul 07
When you see the photo of one of my relatives on my mother's side, he bears a startling resemblance to this evil Viking who marauded much of England and only became a Christian when it was feasible for him. I probably have some evil Roman in my ancestry as well who probably nailed people on crosses. Oh yes don't forget others in my background who did horrible things, maybe some Angle who murdered a British family, a German who persecuted some Jews, I have no idea, but I would hate for someone to say because of what my ancestry did, that I should not be trusted. Everyone has skeletons in their closet, and there is the rule that the children cannot be punished for their father's sins. That being said, I do home that President Bush keeps a good reign on his children and see that they pay for their misdeeds, but I do not like mudrakers.
• United States
11 Jul 07
Good reply suspenseful and points, we all have someone in our family past who has done some wrong. I said take it as you will I searched about half of it and found it to be true. But the fact of it is when you are a celebrity or political figure than expect to be put under the microscope. Dont cry and whine about it. I say I dont trust Bush because of what I have seen out of the guy and thats been enough for me.
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• United States
13 Jul 07
Evan, all you see in Bush is what the liberals want you to see. I think you do not see the whole picture. I think your lens is very way out of focus. Stay away from liberal media which will brainwash you everytime with hate, hate and more hate.
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@mmiller26 (1932)
• Canada
16 Jul 07
Considering that everything I've read from you, Menu, is hate-filled propaganda, I hardly think you have any room to talk. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if you're actually a Democrat and trying to get people to be Democrat as well, because anybody reading the crap you're spewing would naturally shy away from being a Republican if you're any representation about what they're about.
@totty1969 (1473)
• United States
11 Jul 07
Three Generations  - Three generations of the Bush family in Dallas, Texas November 22, 1963
Hi EvanHunter, I believe it, and if you want to read some more. Go to www.jfkmurdersolved.com/bush.htm this will explain a little bit more on the Bush family. Peace, Totty
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• United States
11 Jul 07
thanks for the reply. In all this negativity I began to get dragged down and its hard for me to think objectively. I know no one is perfect but I certainly feel that those who run this country should be worthy of the offices they hold.
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@totty1969 (1473)
• United States
12 Jul 07
I know, it's a lot to take all in one day. I've known about this for a while now. I agree we need someone who is reliable and trustworthy to run our country. But like the constitution says, and I don't know it word for word: If people feel that the represenators of their country are corrupt, it is up to us to change it and make it a safer union. I would like to see the Bush family out of politics all together. Don't be down, he's out in 2008! Peace, Totty
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• United States
12 Jul 07
Yes, we know you would along with many Muslim terrorists, evil and foul liberal democrats and other elements who hate America and American capitalism. Too bad.
• Canada
12 Jul 07
I appreciate your posting the web address on the Bush family. I am a Canadian and my hubby and I watch a considerable amount of news and editorial programming on the Bush adminstration, the war in Iraq etc. Maybe the Bush bloodline has something to do with the problems in the current adminstration...and of course the people he chooses to surround himself with. The one troubling theme that we observe during this adminstration is the abosolute LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY. Whether it is Rumsfeld's 'retirement' rather than having him face the cause and effect of his war policies...or the pardoning of good old 'Scooter' from the Bush Boys Club...no one is held accountable for their actions. Maybe the bloodline does have something to do with it...but you are right many things around the family and the adminstration...is shocking! Good post...makes people pause...investigate..and think!
• United States
12 Jul 07
Well I have to agree with MrNiceGuy on what he said. I dont think it really will change anyones mind people that love him still will and those who dont wont. As far as accountability I think we can only blame ourselves (citizens of the US that is) because we have grown accustom to letting politicians off the hook everytime they get caught with their pants down so to speak. I have said before democracy only works when the majority of the people actively participate in it.
• United States
13 Jul 07
Democracies only work if people will defend them. Judging by the many cowards who are against Bush, I would have to say...this democracy will fall if it is left in the hands of ingrates like liberals, democrats or other elements of the left wing of the spectrum. Bush is not perfect, but better than ANYTHING that is left.
• United States
12 Jul 07
I knew you were some sort of Bush basher,but to go through the extremes to entertain dicussions about bad the man is? Thats laughable. He is doing something no president has done before. In the process, we have had not one attack since that dreadful day of September 11, 2001. I think he has done a good job. He has more courage than Clinton and Carter ever would have had in their pathetic administrations. I have heard just about every silly thing said about Bush...from him being Satan, to him being some space alien. It is all redundant.
12 Jul 07
He is doing something no president has done before What's that get a record of Americans killed? Get real! BTW Don't forget, 9/11 happened under Bush, nice you can view that as a minor slip up. "Oops sorry Americans, my bad" The man is a complete evil nut. Anyone who wants to support him after all the damage he has caused this country is redundant by far!
@MrNiceGuy (4147)
• United States
12 Jul 07
Bush didn't fly planes into the twin towers, that was terrorists. Why is he responsible for something he didn't do? How can any president, democrat or republican, Bush or not, stop a terrorist attack like that? Get real. Unemployment has gone down under President Bush. Gas prices are a function of OPEC and supply and demand, Bush has nothing to do with that. Women's rights? Bush has taken no women's rights (if you can even call it that, what about fetus rights?) nothing about abortion has changed under Bush. I suppose if you are part of the 25% of the population that actually supports killing newborn babies you could argue partial birth abortion, but that wasn't put into motion by President Bush.
• United States
12 Jul 07
They chose to strike as soon as they knew that the presidential change of guard was up. Bush was just becoming president. How many attacks have we had on American soil since 9/11 sunshine? ZERO ATTACKS sunshine. All I see is terrorist cell plots going into the crapper. So Bush is doing a good job in securing the safety of Americans afterall.
@MrNiceGuy (4147)
• United States
12 Jul 07
Allegations and shoddy websites aren't "proof". That's all I have to say, people will believe what they want to believe.
• United States
12 Jul 07
All too true you can show someone an actually movie of something and they will still deny it if tis what they want to believe. I do however think our political system has become tainted with corruptions on both sides of the fense. Whats the fix to it? Well I think it would take real active participation and education by the majority of americans but I dont really think that will ever happen either.
• United States
13 Jul 07
Evan, did you come to this conclusion when Bush took office or before he took office a second time? Usually when people talk of corruption, they act like the Bush administration is the only one. There are series of incidents with other presidents who were in "hot water" as well. I think the Bush administration is the least corrupt. The Clinton administration was the worst since LBJ.
• United States
13 Jul 07
Nope I didnt come to that conclusion till I seen how many good old boy networking he (or by way of his administration) was doing during the war. I also said I am not a big fan of Clintons either. Not to do with him getting a BJ in the oval office but because of the things like NAFTA and the long term effects its having even today. You seem to stand by the guy pretty hard I can understand if you feel he is doing no different than anyone else but does that really make him better? Or is that just what we have become used to.
• United States
14 Jul 07
The deception of Bush and his administration will be known for all time, we will remember.
• United States
14 Jul 07
Thanks for the reply GWB.
• United States
14 Jul 07
uh oh your inittials remind me of something....lol.
• United States
16 Jul 07
Yep, I didn't think that one through far enough did I? ;) I had fun creating many identities, by far the best is probably one that uses my initials. GJL I'm not very evangelical with an identity like GodJesusLives... But when I got into a tussel over being called a proselyte with 'TheGreatwhiteBuffalo' spreading my word and works on the Evolution of Religion. I found that the moniker GodJesusLives was not proselytizing, hmmm? I got by the moderator with that one, you don't suppose they were biased against the conversations of the Buffalo? A little prejudice and discrimination from of all places Beliefnet... Prejudice can be found anywhere and everywhere. The Blind can be found and fooled so easily, they are like cave people watching shadows, they'll believe Hitler was an angel, and slavery is actually freedom. Man I hate to be the bearer of bad news. But someone has to wake these fools up... These War mongering Zombies just don't see their reflections, they are like vampires and the leader and greatest of these is the President of the United States. What a sad situation when the god of war the commander in chief is a lying dictator a murder and killer worse than the one sought in Iraq. Our president has lowered himself to a standard below Saddam Hussein. I dind't think that was possible, but we see it with our own eyes. Very sad...
@ccamsi (13)
• South Korea
19 Jul 07
Let's take a look at Bush's character. From my readings, I understand that Bush likes dichotomizing everything and is obessive about setting the dichotomical boundaries such that if one is not black then it's white. And his criterion for life is too simple and explicit. For example, "Who is supportig me is my friend, if not, my enemy". He has several kinds of mental problems like his indifference to other's emotions, and his destructive illusion which reflects fears to create enemies from the outside. There are Bush's series of maladministration cases at home and abroad, the on-going war in Afghanistan from 2001 to the present, the still continuing political and social unrest in Iraq the war without UN's approval(no countries had authorized the invasion). Even a majority of Iraqi believes that the U.S. has lost its global credibility as a result of Bush's foreign policies based on force by unilateralism. According to a poll taken in November 2006, Finns also believed that Bush was the biggest threat to world peace second only to Bin Laden. Besides, he has faced anti-war and anti-globalization campaigns world wide. His government is delaying to signify support for the Kyoto protocol to protect the environment against global warming. After he took office, the state of the U.S. health care system got worse and the American profit health insurance and pharmaceutical industries got rich because the present system was designed to maximize profit by minimizing the care delivered to patients. People who were denied health care by market forces were driven out of hospitals. In addition, there were also countless mistakes in his domestic policies. Bush's intellectual capacities have sometimes been questioned by tne news media. In 2006, Rolling Stone magazine featured an article by historian Sean Wilentz contending Bush is "one of the worst presidents in America history". Former president, Jimmy Carter, described Bush's foreign policy as "the worst in history". Bush must be an incompetent leader. Following are some additional comments on Bush: "Even though Bush is very kind and cheerful, he would drastically curtail the government subsidy for the destitute." "Even though Bush is deeply religious, he could lightly order to bomb Iraqi people. And then publicly he had celebrated the result of the bombing unmindful of the casualties suffered by the troops and refugees." With his plausible lies, he had despatched the troops in Iraq and then he would make a tricky joke such as "there is no mass destruction weapon under the desk in my office".
• United States
20 Jul 07
Thank you for your reply. Did you research any of the article (webpage) to find if there was any validity in it?
• New Zealand
15 Jul 07
People cannot be judged for "the sins of the Father".. However, when you embrace those sins as your own, & seek to enthusiastically surpass them, you cannot complain if others start viewing you with a jaudiced eye... It appears to me that BabyBush has not learnt from his family`s past mistakes....in fact he proudly tries to outdo them in infamy!
• United States
15 Jul 07
Thanks for the reply. It seems that way to me also.
@Ken_Smith (240)
14 Jul 07
i no really no what this is about but i read responses. very funy! some anger issues like me. you have good story here.
• United States
14 Jul 07
thanks for the reply Ken. ya I guess this is the hottest headed topic I have posted in a long while maybe ever.
@agfarm (930)
• United States
14 Jul 07
Evanhunter....Fantastic Website!!!!! Thanks for the info !!!! I knew things were screwed up , but.....Oy Veigh !!!!!! Keep up the good work....The more people which are Made aware of these things.... the More people, will have a fighting chance at the '08 Elections !!! Kudos !!! And Peace to you.
• United States
14 Jul 07
Thanks for the reply, but as I said dont take it on faith look at it and research it yourself.
• China
12 Jul 07
i don't think he is a good person .what he had done hert somebody 's emotional .for example the chinese .
• United States
13 Jul 07
Thanks for the reply.