I am apauled. Thought Abraham Lincoln set the slaves free all them years

Denmark
July 19, 2007 12:41pm CST
ago. But i just heard on news that americans only have 2 weeks paid holiday a year. Poor ole Abe must be spinning in his grave. In Denmark we have 5 weeks paid holiday a year and i do not think its a day too many. How can you americans put up with this? Do you think its fair on you? To peolpe from other countries, lets hear how the situation is in your country. How much paid leave do you get? and are you happy with this?
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• United States
19 Jul 07
Most of us don't even get paid vacations anymore. A lot don't even get two weeks. We have all these illegal immigrants to pay for because our borders are wide open to whoever wants to come for a hand out so we can't afford such luxuries like paid vacations.
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• United States
20 Jul 07
Thank you, kimthedane! You are right about human rights issue! There is a long history of struggle for worker's rights.. that has become lost in the U.S... in a lot of politics over the past few decades.
• Denmark
19 Jul 07
Just the fact that you see paid holiday as a luxury tells me how bad the situation is. In our part of the world, paid vacation is a human right, not a luxury. I honestly find this quiet disturbing. This from one of the leading countries in the world. Nothing against the american people, but this attitude belongs to the stone age.
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@judyt00 (3497)
• Canada
20 Jul 07
And it has nothing to do with Illegal immigrants! They work harder than most Americans. They are only Illegals because your bigoted government has set quotas for non whites!
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
19 Jul 07
Here in Canada, unless you belong to a strong union and have a government job, you are lucky to get 1 week after the first year. And in many, you have a choice paid holiday or sick leave. They gradually increase it to two weeks, but it takes some years. I used to work and I never got up to the two week deal, let alone one week. My husband was lucky. He worked for our government railroad (He was a skilled mechanic and journeyman) and only got six weeks holiday the last two years before he took early retirement. Most are not that lucky.
• Denmark
24 Jul 07
I know what you mean. In Denmark it's the unions that runs the labourmarket. They have a lot of power, thats probably why our work conditions is so high.
@sunshinecup (7871)
19 Jul 07
It's sad isn't it? My Hubby is lucky though, he gets two weeks vaction, 2 weeks sick leave and 1 week of personal time off. Or is it 1 wk sick leave and 2 wks personal time? Oh well one of the two, so he does get 5 weeks off all together a year. Also what vacation days he does not use, he gets paid for. But the others he won't.
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• Denmark
19 Jul 07
So what you are saying is he has 2 weeks vacation a year. If he does not have vacation he gets paid for the 2 weeks, whereas if he have a 2 weeks holiday he dont get paid at all? Ofcourse he is gonna get paid if he dont take the time of, coz that means that he will be working, lol. I am shocked.
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@judyt00 (3497)
• Canada
19 Jul 07
we aren't even guaranteed that in Canada. Most companies give one week's vacation for every year worked up to 5 weeks total. Where I work now, we don't even get that. Our vacation time is unpaid
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• Denmark
19 Jul 07
I think that is an outrage. What about you pay then? do you earn enough to be able to make a little savings for when you do want a holiday? or du you just dont have holidays full stop?
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@judyt00 (3497)
• Canada
20 Jul 07
I've taken one holiday in 7 years, and that was the last place I worked, and they complained about it. I'm taking a few days off after school starts again, though, before the Christmas rush starts
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• Denmark
24 Jul 07
That sounds unbelieveable. Jeg didn't like you took holiday. Dont the employers realize that happy employees make good workers?
@maddysmommy (16230)
• United States
19 Jul 07
My husband gets 10 days paid leave and 10 days paid sick leave. If he travels for work he also accumulates comp time which is also paid leave (I think - i would need to double check that). He has already accrued roughly 30sum hours. When i worked in Samoa we were entitled to 10 days sick and annual and if you ran out, tough luck you get your pay deducted. It does sux if you get 5 weeks of leave LOL
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• Denmark
21 Jul 07
Its weird how different cultures have different interpretations on what is fair to the labourers in their own country. I know when i lived in england in 3 out of 4 jobs we did not get sick pay. This obviously is a bad thing as you cannot avoid being sick occationally, so you get punished for being sick. The bills does not stop just becoz you are sick. On top of our 5 weeks paid holiday in Denmark we get paid 90% of our basic wage for a period of up till six months, then 60% for the next 3 month before social will take over.
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@carolscash (9492)
• United States
19 Jul 07
In a way, we are slaves to our jobs. They get more of our time than our families get and we don't earn the pay that we are worth in most jobs. I only get a week's paid vacation a year and since I work part time it is not even a full 40 hours paid. It is sad!! I am looking for a job now that has some flexible time with it as I need a job that allows me to also be a mother to my children. Abe Lincoln would be upset and I had never really thought about it in this aspect,but you are right. I am thinking that I need to move to Denmark!!
• Denmark
21 Jul 07
Lol. DON'T. Paid holiday and sickleave is great, but as i said it just a simple human right. Denmark is a beautiful country but the government and most danes sucks. I used to be so proud of my nationality, but after returning here fater 10 Years in England, i am ashamed. Yor are right, you give your best years for your employer and in return they treat you like siht. It sure aint fair and in my opinion something should get done about it. Maybe if you come to denmark, we could plan a revulition. :)
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@4ftfingers (1310)
11 Aug 07
I was just looking at statistics, and it seems that most Eueropean nations fair quite well, compared to the UK with a total of 28 days paid holiday and public holiday, and the US with 25. I think we should get much more, particularly the UK being part of the EU. http://money.cnn.com/2007/06/12/pf/vacation_days_worldwide/
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• Denmark
16 Aug 07
I remember this argument goin on while i lived in the UK 4ft, and i cant but agree with you. I am not a big supporter of the European Union (basically i think its a very bad joke) but since we have it i think, as they do harmonize everything else, the number holiday entitlement and bank holiday should be the same whereever you live in the EU. Sorry for the late response. :)
@AmbiePam (85663)
• United States
20 Jul 07
In America, some people have two weeks for vacation, and some have more. It depends on what job a person has. Sorry you're appalled.
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• Denmark
17 Aug 07
Not your fault Ambie. Do you think its right that some people have more holidays than others? What happened to equality? My 37 hrs a week at work should be just as appreciated as anybody else working that hrs.
• United States
20 Jul 07
Where my husband works, he gets 1 week paid vacation , 10 paid federal holidays (like memorial day, labor day, 4th of July, etc), 1 sick day earned per 60 days up to 6 per year, and 1 paid personal day. He will earn more vacation the longer he is there up to a total of 5 weeks by the time he has worked there 20 years. WOW 5 weeks paid vacation sounds wonderful. Not sure how happy he is with the amount of time, however, this is one of the better benifits packages around here. There are lots of places that don't even give the vacation as paid.
• Denmark
25 Jul 07
I am sorry hunni, but the more responses i read to this discussion, the more priviledged i feel. In Denmark we also have what we call 'holy days', like x-mas eve, 1st & 2nd day of x-mas, easter, labour day etc. I really think its a disgrace the way the companies in USA treat their employees. They are taking the bloody piss. As you say ya hunny has to be with the same firm for 20 years to buil up his holiday entitlement.
• United States
19 Jul 07
We are not guaranteed 2 weeks of vacation. Usually, salaried employees get this as a benefit. It becomes 3 weeks after 5 years and 4 weeks after 10. I think it is silly to legislate vacation time. The American work ethic is why we rose from a backwards collection of British Colonies to world dominance in less than 200 years. Being productive helped us in WW I. It also allowed us to rebuild our dismantled military and help defeat both Germany and Japan in WW II. Abandoning this ethos is part of the reason why we are losing our grip. We are capitalist and free. If we do not like the business we work for because they do not provide enough benefits, we can decide to work for someone else. It is part of a free market economy.
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• United States
19 Jul 07
We are not guaranteed 2 weeks of vacation. Usually, salaried employees get this as a benefit. It becomes 3 weeks after 5 years and 4 weeks after 10. I think it is silly to legislate vacation time. The American work ethic is why we rose from a backwards collection of British Colonies to world dominance in less than 200 years. Being productive helped us in WW I. It also allowed us to rebuild our dismantled military and help defeat both Germany and Japan in WW II. Abandoning this ethos is part of the reason why we are losing our grip. We are capitalist and free. If we do not like the business we work for because they do not provide enough benefits, we can decide to work for someone else. It is part of a free market economy.
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@judyt00 (3497)
• Canada
20 Jul 07
You Do know you had some help during those wars, don't you?
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• Denmark
24 Jul 07
Well said Judy. How can you be productive, if your government wear down the labouror? Capitalist's and what? DOnt sound very free to me that money & profit rule the american society. What happened to human values as solidarity & love your next as you love yourself? Fck free market economy as long as people die around the world, some americans cant afford the health service and the green house effect.
@totty1969 (1468)
• United States
16 Aug 07
What? You get paid holidays. I dont even get an un paid holiday. Thats not fair, I am moving to your country. Where do you live, what country? I'll be there shortly, I need a vacation!
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• Denmark
17 Aug 07
Hahaha totty. My place is Denmark. when you got ya vacation sorted out give us a shout and you are more than welcome come stay at my place.
@vicki2876 (5636)
• Canada
11 Aug 07
I am in Canada too an unless you are in a top job you rarely get any paid time off for vacations. So congrats to you! Considering for every good job there are 100 minimum wage junky jobs that makes lots of people who don't get paid vacations. That is a luxury for the ones making big bucks. I guess it doesn't bother us too much because ya can't really afford to do anything with the money they pay.
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• Denmark
16 Aug 07
Tell me about it Vic. Though we have 5 weeks paid holiday does not mean that we actually go on holiday, coz as you say the wage do not allow you such luxury. But for most it mean spend some time with your kids, family and friends or maybe catching up on all them jobs at home you never get done, as you have to go slave for your employer. Sorry for the late response.
@tinybop (113)
• United States
16 Aug 07
Alot of it depends on the company you work for and how long you have been with them, my dad gets 5 or so weeks a year but has been with the company 30 years. I get 1 week but I only work 23-25 hours a week anyway. My husband gets about 3 weeks a year. My mom gets about 4 weeks a year and has been at her job 15 years.
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• Denmark
17 Aug 07
Thanks for your response Tiny. But dont you agree it should not have to do whith how long you have been in the same company? A 20 year old just started working needs just as much holiday as one on 50-60. Well even tho you only work part time you should still have your holiday entitlement. You do here and ofcourse you get paid holiday matching the hrs you work.
@rosie_123 (6113)
20 Jul 07
Oh yes Kim - that is something that horrifies me too. I always feel so sorry when I chat to my American friends, and they are so envious of my holiday entitlements here in England. As to how much we get in the UK - well pretty much the same as Denmark and the rest of Europe I think. Minimum legal requirement is 20 working days (4 weeks) - most people get 25 which is 5 weeks, rising to 30 (6 weeks) after 5 years with the same company. And of course we also get all the Public Holidays (Christmas, Easter, May Day etc) on top of those holidays. Many people also work "flexi-hours", which means you can work longer than your contracted hours at ay time if you wish, and then carry over those extra hours to take as extra holiday. The thing I find especially cruel in the States, is that if you change your job, you're not entitled to any holiday at all for at least 6 months according to one friend of mine. Whereas here in England you can take holiday in the first month if you want, and all pre-booked holidays are honured with full pay if you start a new job and already have a holiday booked. All that happens, is that if you choose to leave that company in the first year, you have to pay any over-taken holiday back to them, - but to be honest, very few people chop and change jobs so quickly, so it really isn't an issue.
@student7 (1002)
• United States
23 Jul 07
You know that makes me wish that I were over there instead of here in the states. I can't take a paid vacation until I am here a year.
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• Denmark
11 Aug 07
Believe me babes, you do not want to be here in this shithoil. 5 weeks paid vacation is nice but it aint everything. It does not justify all the unjust siht and all the lies in Danish policy/society now a days. I used to be so proud of my nationality, but honestly, having been away for ten years and then come back, makes me wonder what made me so damn proud? Today i am ashamed of being danish, 5 weeks paid holiday or not. How are you anyway hunni?
@student7 (1002)
• United States
23 Jul 07
Shoot I only get a week my first year at my job then it goes up from there. I wish that I had five weeks that would be so glorious. I guess with me, I just take time off when I truly need it. I don't get paid for it, but at least I have some time off to rest.
• Denmark
11 Aug 07
Hello my dear friend. Long time no see :( Oh, you have to work up your entitlement first to have it in Denmark too. IE if you did not work for the whole of last year, you would not be entitled to paid holiday here either. But when you are in employment you earn a entitlement of just above 2,5 days a month. In the principle you could take these days after a month or every month if you wish to do so. Greetings xxx
@williamjisir (22819)
• China
11 Aug 07
Here in China teachers have altogether three months' holiday--two-month summer holiday and one-month winter vacation. Teachers are paid during the holidays. As to the National Day, May Day and Spring Festival for people from all walks of life, they are paid.
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• Denmark
16 Aug 07
Bloody hell Will. Can you get me an applicationform for a teaching job in chine please? :)