Homeless Homicide

@worldwise1 (14885)
United States
July 29, 2007 10:25pm CST
An incident happened in my city the other day involving two homeless guys who had gotten into a fight using huge rocks as weapons. Sadly, one of the victims later died from his injuries. What has been bothering me about this is why two people who are both down on their luck and sleeping in a homeless shelter would turn on each other like that. They should have instead been trying to help each other and uplift each other. This has really bothered me. I don't know what this world is coming to anymore.
1 person likes this
6 responses
• United States
30 Jul 07
The thing is, if someone is homeless, chances are they're not functioning mentally or emotionally like a normal person. Whether it's depression, substance abuse, a catastrophic string of losses, or a combination thereof; the horrific stress of being homeless makes it almost impossible to react normally to actual or perceived threats. Being homeless leaves you with very little energy for anything more than pure survival. Add to the that the feeling of being completely alone in the world, and not trusting anyone enough to ask for help because of past betrayals and abandonment and even abuse; well, I'm not surprised, and it makes me sad. I don't judge either one of the men involved. I judge the society of which they were a part (and please don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that they both didn't have any responsibility for being in such a bad situation. I'm just saying it's not ALL their fault). There is still so little support for mental/emotional illness in this country, not to mention the fact that good health care is only available to people who can afford it. Homelessness is but one symptom of many that our society is sick. We have lost touch with some of the characteristics that help our species survive, against all odds; that communal urge to protect, nurture and support every member of the tribe, for the greater good. As far as I'm concerned, one of the (many) reasons we've lost that imperative has to do with religion. Other people, animals, and even the planet have become less important than being "saved". If someone doesn't believe the way someone else does, than "to hell with them". And I think that's just morally reprehensible.
2 people like this
• United States
30 Jul 07
Umm, may I applaud you??
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
30 Jul 07
Your points are well taken, Waterwisdom. Society has done a terrible wrong to these people who need their help the most. I remember back during the 80s when they started shutting down the mental facilities and I thought, what will happen to all these people now? We are seeing the end result of that travesty. They had no place to go, but to the streets. Even the shelters are not fit for human habitation.
• United States
30 Jul 07
You may . . . ;^)
• United States
30 Jul 07
I forgot to say also; unless you've been in that position, it's not fair to make a judgement about how they "should've" acted.
2 people like this
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
30 Jul 07
Touche, Waterwisdom. Maybe my reaction is due to the fact that I live in a city where I have seen crime reach soaring heights, and it is sickening to see that people place no value on a human life anymore. I am tired of people killing one another!
• United States
30 Jul 07
I really feel your frustration. I hate the killing that's going on all over the world, most of it over which is the "right" god, or which parcel of land is "god given" and to whom was it given. It is a source of unending pain for me whenever I read about what's happening in Darfur, or the Middle East, or what has happened in Ireland, or Croatia, and in Slavic country of Georgia, etc., etc., etc. To expand on something I said before, I really believe that religion, especially fundamentalist, extremist religion, creates a mindset that supports the idea that if you're a "believer", you're going to "heaven", and if you're not, you're going to "hell", so why care about any living thing in this world. It's an idea that permeates all the way up into government and "big business". Even if it's not actually in the "conscious" minds of the heads of states and corporations, the mythological/religious archetypes of another life after this one has been embedded in our subconscious from the beginning of human consciousness. The crimes that happen at the very bottom levels of society are reflections of the crimes that happen at the highest levels. Up there, though, people have the power and money to either cover up and hide what they've done, or, if caught, to get away with it, or to get a lesser punishment. In the end, despite the diversity of human personality, creativity, intelligence, achievement, etc., when it comes to human need and desire, most of us want the same things; to feel safe and loved, and to feel like we're part of something and contributing. If we don't have those things, it's the rare person who has the internal strength to rise above their circumstances without help. And if you're surrounded by people who are all in the same situation, who all have the same mindset, it's even harder. Having said all this, I also believe there are still reasons to be hopeful in this world. There are people and organizations who are doing good work, who are making positive differences in the world. I've had to learn how to shift my focus, how not to stay obsessed with only the negative. That doesn't mean I'm not aware, just that I'm more fully aware. Also, while I don't believe that everything happens for a reason, I do believe that there's something positive to learn from everything that happens, positive or negative. And there's definitely something that needs desperately to be learned from what's going on in the world right now.
@weemam (13372)
30 Jul 07
you know pal , I have given up reading the newspaper , I hadn't read it for some time , I saw bits of the news when hubby was watching it though , I was in myself the other day which is quite unusuall and I thought I would read the paper , I was only in a few pages and I was getting so depressed about things , there were no nice stories , no happy smiling people , Just doom and gloom , I put it to the one side and I am not going to read it again in a hurry , I think this world is turning into a very sad pleace , I will just stay ignorant of the news and stay in My Lot where I can have a smile from my friends discussions xx
@weemam (13372)
30 Jul 07
I watch the news on the TV while I am on the laptop , I can't help but see the headlines on the Pc what I mean my friend is I just don't go out of my way to read about it it all just sems to be bad or sad nowadays xxxx
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
30 Jul 07
That's a nice thought, weemam, but the reality is that we live in this messed-up world. I don't want to read or watch the news any more than you do, but it is my duty to stay as informed as I can stand to be. Even on myLot we hear about bad things happening.
@carolscash (9492)
• United States
30 Jul 07
That is such a sad story! It would seem as though they would help each other but who knows what caused the problems. It could have been such a simple thing as one stealing food from the other one. We never know what causes someone to snap like that.
@tuffy999 (794)
• Philippines
30 Jul 07
that's sad. i guess something must have snapped.
1 person likes this
• United States
30 Jul 07
When you are in a situation like being homeless, you really don't have many posessions, so I wouldn't be suprised if one had stolen the others belongings or something that was important... It really could have been anything, but when you are homeless you have no respect for the world and other people, and neither does anyone for you... y'know? That is why they ARE homeless, because no one cares for them, or they just kept digging themselves into some kind of bottomless pit, although a lot of homeless people are greivers of some kind, and I do trully feel for those individuals...
1 person likes this
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
30 Jul 07
I don't agree that becoming homeless would make you lose respect for other people-I know that I wouldn't. I would be busy trying to get my own selfrespect back.