Changing the way we earn

August 14, 2007 7:27am CST
Ok I know my posts have been about Mylot lately, what can I say...I don’t have much going on in my life right now, LOL. I was thinking, what do you think of this?... We don’t get credit for our discussions AT ALL, unless we reply to those that make a response to it? Not just a reply, but honest feedback? Here is my logic on this, this is a discussion site correct? However what kind of discussions are they when so many post a question and then never reply to their posters at all? Seems kind of silly don’t you think? IMO this would limit the spam a bit, since many of these jerks are posting things that really can’t be replied to like “join here!”, “ I made a million here!” or “ I have new shoes”. It would also limit the marathon posters who set down an in an hour’s time post 100’s of silly posts that really just take up space but will gain just as silly nonsense responses, all for points. Anyway it was just a thought that came to me while surfing Mylot and seeing so many posts set for days with no replies from the author of the discussion. So what do you think? What are some of the pros and cons of this you can think of? I honestly would love to hear. Before I make up mind to send this idea to mylot, I want to know what other’s think. ? ? ?Thanks in advance, and you got it, I read all and rate all. ? ? ?
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@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
14 Aug 07
I think that it would be good. i usually reply to ALL people only to find out that they didnt even came back to check my response =( However lately I have also been bad with feedback, just havent had the energy. I think that this would really make it more of a discussion site, now it is more of a forum or something like that!
6 people like this
14 Aug 07
Thanks as always! Yeah I think maybe a percentage could be set that we have to reach or something, cause yes sometimes there isn't anything I can really say to every response without repeating myself, but most of the time and to the majority, I can.
@zaichn (319)
• Philippines
14 Aug 07
Yup.. you are definitely on the right track. Good observation by the way. Well, i think that the only solution to marathon posters is that we act something about it, Like report them to mylot staff, etc. And about us getting "no" credit for our own discussions, I would 50/50 agree/disagree about it. I have difficulties in starting a discussion that is interesting and that many people can respond to.. That is why I would just stick to responding discussions rather than starting one. But the problem is that, if like so.. the mylot staff will agree to your proposal/suggestion.. Then we start a discussion, but i hope you can see that not all are interested in some discussions that we make or not interested at all.. If no one will reply, then we cant earn money since we cant make a response to the responses that we receive since we dont have any.. I hope you can get what im saying.. hehe.. But I am happy that you want to limit spamming here since theres really a lot of it here.. :) thanks and best of luck to you.
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14 Aug 07
I understand what you are saying and I do know there are some that don't get any responses to their posts. Many things like timing, where they posted it as well as the topic are all factors as to why this happens. Hmmmm maybe in those cases mylot could delete those after a certain time, so the poster can repost them again later, give them a second chance with it. Thanks for sharing and I think you made a wonderful point.
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@zaichn (319)
• Philippines
14 Aug 07
Yup.. the topic as well affects the number of responses. It's a pleasure to respond. Thanks again! :)
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@raijin (10345)
• Philippines
14 Aug 07
I don't respond to them, that's my own way of dealing with them. It's their loss, not mine. I always give my very best opinion and put every though on the post I make, that someitmes it is really hard for me to choose the proper word to use because I am not a good english speaker. I wouldn't care much if I lose 10 or 100 posts a day, just as long as I earn a cent, that's enough for me. To most of them whom didn't put any effort to comment on my responses, I say thank you to all!;)LoL
@raijin (10345)
• Philippines
15 Aug 07
I'm sorry perspectives, but it seems that you misunderstood my point. I seldom start my own discussions, so I am thankful if it receives a respond or not. But what I am saying here are those whom I responded to, that never commented even a single word under my responses. Hope that make things clear to you, I also love conversing here..
• Canada
15 Aug 07
Your attitude seems to be similar to quite a few Mylotters. Well as a point of reference for you...your lack of participation on your site is one of the reasons I don't drop by as often. I am always happy to hear what you have to add on my site and others...but I like discussions...I like responses..and I greatly appreicate those who take the time to make a comment about my posts. Part of my routine is to check 'discussions I have responded to.' When people comment on what I have said...I will usually acknowledge their response again. So for me, responding takes the largest amount of my time on Mylot. However, I am more interested in building a sense of community and establishing a reputation sharing and caring...because I do. When it is a one-sided venture I lose interest in that friend really fast. As I have said so often...to have friends...you need to be one. On-line or off. At least that is the way I see it...and try to live it. So in my view sunshine is on to something here.
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15 Aug 07
I think raijin is saying he doesn't respond to those posters who do not participate in their own discussion. He rather loss those points he would gain by doing so, than going ahead posting to them. Correct me riajin if I am wrong, I am on my first cup of coffee here. LOL
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@rosie_123 (6113)
14 Aug 07
Well I think you make some very valid points here. This site is going downhill fast, and a radical shake-up is needed somewhere to get it back to the place it used to be, with intelligent discussions, not just people posting random referral links, and all these daft, one-line questions in place of proper topics. I'm not sure if myLot would listen to your please, as they don't seem to be as "hands-on" as they used to be - but good luck with trying!
15 Aug 07
Yeah I know what you are saying, when is the last time you seen a post from mylot on a discussion? I thought about that the other day. It's been months.
• India
14 Aug 07
Ya you are true most of the people don't comment when they post they'r discussios but i allways do, we must comment on the response we got, coz it effects status. I reccomend all my friends of mylot to comment on each response they get on there discussions.
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15 Aug 07
Yeah something can be said about most replies, you know? I understand not every single one in a discussion with 20 or more replies, cause that is a bit much, but at least a lot of them, LOL.
@aak999 (5)
• India
14 Aug 07
It is good that you have shared your view. What I agree with you that our posting should be honest feed back what we feel. Ofcourrse we should not span, not critise anybody, not to violate the honoured forum rules. Thaks for asking genuine feed back! Hope you will st what you genuinely wish!
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15 Aug 07
Thank you, LOL could see it if in real life we held a conversation like some post on here? It would be very strange in deed.
@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
14 Aug 07
Hello Sunshinecup, Nice to visit with you again! I'm not sure how affecting it will be to present this suggestion to the MyLot staff, but you have my full support. Before I answer a question from an unfamiliar member, I always check to see if the actually engage their discussions, by replying to the responses. If they habitually do not, then I won't bother responding to their question. I don't have alot of time to dedicate to MyLot, but by golly, if I present a question, then I make sure to participate in that discussion, until it is closed. Sometimes even beyond the selection of a best response. To me, it is a sign of respect that we interact with our respondent's. We may not have the incling or time to expound on every response, but we should certainly make a commitment to at least recognize, and thank the respondent's. I concur wholeheartedly with you that MyLot should be supporting this respectful interaction. Instead, the MyLot guidelines suggest not thanking the respondent's. How absurd it that???. Anyway, sorry for rambling a bit. If you would like to use my username in a list of members who support your suggestion, you're welcomed to do so. I fully support your idea on this, because you're right ... it isn't a discussion if it's only one-sided. You go Sunshine!
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15 Aug 07
I think the, do not respond with thank you's, is a rule that needs to be removed now. See at one time we did get paid for everything we posted, including our comments to replies we received, so that is why they had that rule. Now we don't, so that rule needs to go. "it isn't a discussion if it's only one-sided." Exactly, that is what I was thinking. Thanks for the response. :oD
• United States
15 Aug 07
I will come back to this original post and post again - that way it won't count as 2 posts as soon as you tell me how you make those cute hearts. ~Donna
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15 Aug 07
Girl I told you yesterday on another post, or was that someone else? LOL, ok here it is again.... This is what you type, but leave no space between and below it shows what you will get. & hearts; ♥ & diams; ♦ & spades; ♠ & clubs; ♣ Enjoy :oD
@djmarion (4898)
• Philippines
15 Aug 07
true, many users post discussions and leave it just like that, they will not even give any feedback even thank you from their respondents. they will just post and post new discussions and wait for many feedbacks. too bad since they dont recognize the efforts of their friends responding to their discussions.
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15 Aug 07
Yes, IMO it brings down the quality here. I wonder what a new person just coming in and looking at the "new discussions" would think after seeing some of the junk people post, then never return to?
@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
15 Aug 07
Here are my thoughts, sunshine: The people here on myLot that are serious do reply to most of their discussions. I know that I really try hard to. If the responses become redundant, however, I will sometimes just rate them and move on. I mean, we all know that some are just here to make a quick buck. I don't worry about them. I even had a response to one of my posts yesterday where this guy just asked me to try Firefox. That's no kind of response. I'm going to stop giving them a good rating when they do this.
15 Aug 07
"If the responses become redundant, however, I will sometimes just rate them and move on. " I think the every post idea is a bit too much so maybe a percentage would be more realistic?
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@worldwise1 (14885)
• United States
15 Aug 07
That would be more realistic, sunshine, as I have sometimes gotten more than 50 responses. That is a bit much.
@mizrae (587)
• United States
14 Aug 07
First, I thought myLot frowned on replying to posters in a discussion UNLESS it was relevant or the poster asked a question. I guess I'm confused as to how this would work. I do know, I personally would rather not see a dozen "thanks for your post" or "your response is really appreciated". Some of these discussions get a lot of replies, and one might not have the time to reply to every single one of them especially if the subject has already been covered. Or what happens to the person who only has a limited amount of time each day and has to spend it replying to the discussion they posted yesterday - just to earn a few pennies? Me thinks you need to rethink this.
15 Aug 07
Thanks for your honesty. I do agree when there are larger number of replies it would be time consuming. What about maybe not all of them has to be replied to, but a percentage?
@totty1969 (1468)
• United States
14 Aug 07
I dont think that fair, I will explain why. I posted a discussion and did not get a response for a week. I had to go out of town for three weeks and I got home and checked my email, there was over 36 responses. I replied to the discussion through my email and I pressed the submit button. I then put in a tag, and the screen showing a violation..... came up and the discussion was gone. I had not violated any guidelines, my discussion was about my garden. So why would it be fair to suggest this? Thanx,Totty
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15 Aug 07
I have to agree with Perspectives, the two simply are not related.
@totty1969 (1468)
• United States
15 Aug 07
I had the discussion up for a week with no responses, I also had no idea work was going out of town, its not like I did a discussions and left town. I did a tasteful discussion and was very discriptive and it is gone, deleted, no more.
• Canada
15 Aug 07
Well maybe it was deleted because from my understanding those kinds of mass responses are not 'legit.' Mylot guidelines suggests longer, thoughtful comments. At the side of the comment box it clearly says, "Please be as descriptive as possible." If you didn't do that and took a shortcut rather than taking the time to answer each response individually...I am not surprised it was deleted. I don't think I be too happy if I saw a discussion forum was handled that way. Where is the disucussion. Another thing other Mylotters who plan to be away post that on their sites and do not start a discussion when they know they are not going to be availabel to chat. There are ways around things...and the guidelines are there for the good of the all. Follow them...no problem...break them...deletions are sure to occur. I am unclear why you think what you did is unfair in the context of what Sunshine is suggesting. To me they are not in the same arena...now just my perspective though!
• Canada
15 Aug 07
Wow...I think you are really on to something here...and I'd say..go for it! Your point about this being a discussion forum and how many people do not take the time or energy to respond to respondants befuddles me too. It is the first thing I do whenever I log on...for a couple of reasons. Number one I have regulars like you that always have something interesting to say...and I look forward to hearing what it is. Secondly when people value a discussion enough to drop by and participate it is beyond me why people do not rate it...and of course...reply. If you don't reply...how can there be a discussion? Some of the most enjoyable forums are the ones where people come back a couple more times and add things to my comments..or others within the thread. Maybe it is just the way our minds work sunshine...but your views echo my thoughts on this. I have wondered about why those who do take the time to reply don't have more incentives. From what you are proposing I do not see any cons...but then I run my site your way anyway...and will not change my strategy of a 'response for every response' approach. I'll be checking back to see how things progress with what I think is a brainstorm! Maybe you should see if you can get an on-line petition going where we could back you up and present it to Mylot with members views en masse. Anyway...good job..great concept...thanks for putting out there. I will continue to read comments and see where it goes.
15 Aug 07
"If you don't reply...how can there be a discussion? Some of the most enjoyable forums are the ones where people come back a couple more times and add things to my comments..or others within the thread." Exactly!!! You always have a way of putting it in Perspective better than I can! ;oD I think many forget this is a forum. Yes we get a penny tossed our way for being here, but it is a forum and who in a forum writes a discussion then abandons it as soon as they submit it?
• India
15 Aug 07
hi sunshinecup..the post u've started is like 'exactly same here'..i mean i am sure many people must think that way..so u've collectively represented them..well thanks for this post as i found 1 more genuine post about mylot..i also think the same thing.i respond to discussions from my interests as much as i can in 1 hour(my own time limit for mylot;-)) only a few days back i came to know that just responding anywhere or posting a new new discussion is not going to pay u until u get at least 10 responses..i felt bad when i saw my earnings to be only 30 cents even after trying 2 hours a day on mylot for 5 days..frankly speaking everybody posts here mainly for money..people agree it to or not..and really mylot should change there standards about responding to discussions because even if u post a genuine one u won't get anything until people do not respond you..which i think is not fair..i saw many posts here like what do you like more a Nike or Adidas??,car or bike..i mean posts like this seem silly to me ..what i personally think is this site is about discussing yourself out in every way and not starting puzzles or quizzes or comparisons just to increase the number of responses..and so many people are posting here that it is naturally not possible to get every one of them responded.so mylot should have a careful look on this aspect..which is proving to be more of spamming thing than to be a acceptable by all..nice post ..thank you..i just got a sigh of relief after writing all this...so now i can that i don't feel lost here..thank you sunshinecup..
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21 Aug 07
Yes the posts that are so just for points, "Do you like water?", kill me and IMO they shouldn't get half as much as one that posts a paragraph long discussion including a question, the authors views and why they feel that way. It just numbs my mind sometimes going through the "new discussions" and reading these things popping up and most of the time it's a new member on a posting spree out to make their first million off Mylot, LOL. I do like the one suggestion of maybe it should be a percentage instead of all of the replies, because after awhile one wouldn't be able to prevent repeating themselves. Any way glad you feel better and I assisted in that. Thanks for a wonderful reply :oD
• India
21 Aug 07
my pleasure:-P
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@wisconsin26 (3859)
• United States
15 Aug 07
"We don’t get credit for our discussions AT ALL, unless we reply to those that make a response to it?" You wrote.. We don't get credit for making a post UNLESS someone replies to it.. ok let me see if I can explain this.. Say I am sitting at 290 and I make a post I am still at 290 if no one replies to it I don't get anything from it no money no point.. So this is already taken place.. I think the reason though why people make posts is to make conversation not really the money part because we really don't make anything from our own discussions being made we really only make it from replying to others.. This is what I am seeing so everything you suggested is already taking place.. It doesn't matter if a person makes 100 posts a day or 10 posts a day they aren't really getting paid for it only when they really reply to someone else If they do it's only for what they started as a conversation not really a reply that made from the people who replied to the subject... Reason why I know this is because I have done this I made a post had a lot of replies and hardly made anything my replies to the people that posted were more than 4 lines long... This doesn't include replying to others posts.. Understand what I am saying?
• United States
15 Aug 07
We get a 1 point if our discussion is replied too if people don't touch it we don't.. Truthfully I really don't even know if it matters much anymore after all my hard work yesterday and than coming on this morning I am just sicken by what I got for yesterdays work... I did make a post and I strongly feel the way I do in what I said there..
15 Aug 07
Ok, we get 1 point per discussion we create. That is how it is now on mylot. What I am suggesting is we do not get that 1 point unless we post a reply to our posters. That would knock out those that are posting 20 to 100 sincless discussions per day, most just one liners at that. Yes it's more work, but again, isn't that how it works in any forum? We create a discussion then we participate in it? I think many are getting side track because there is a penny to be made. You know?
• United States
16 Aug 07
That makes a lot of sense. But do you get credit for each response to your response? And must you respond to each response? I do to most of mine but some there really isn't any retort. I do think it would cut down a lot of spammers and such.
• United States
22 Aug 07
Oh - I meant for your new pay method :)
22 Aug 07
OHHHHHHHH.....he he he, that's why I never claim to be the sharpest tool in the shed. *blush* I reckon 1 point per discussion as is now.
21 Aug 07
No the way it's working now, you get 1 credit for a discussion even if you don't reply, but no more than 1 credit regardless if you do reply.
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• India
15 Aug 07
yes some topics are such that can't be replied, for example "i got paid", we can't write anything oher than "wow, thats gr8"
@mizrae (587)
• United States
15 Aug 07
You need a "Tony the Tiger" to go with your gr8. I can hear the commercial now.
• Philippines
15 Aug 07
Hi there, well all i can say is that, there's a lot of types of people in this world and so in here also in mylot. All of us have our own opinions, we can't make other people to say what we want to because they have their own opinions. We can't demand that this is what they have to do or say just because we want to. So, sometimes we can't really avoid these n*sty things going on here in mylot because of some cr*zy people you know.
15 Aug 07
Oh I understand, but my point here is what are you thoughts on suggesting this to mylot?
@cmsk2005 (1770)
• United States
20 Aug 07
I love to reply to those responses which interests me and i do not like to go back to those responses just saying something as they have to reponse certain number in one day. I als o do not reply or response any topic which seems uninterested to me. So this is not a hard and fast rule for me and I am doing ok with this, I only focus on my interest nothing else and i think i am doing ok for this reason, not too bad. I love towrite again over a respone on my post if i have something inside me for that whcih is trying to be realised thru my writing. Do you have this feelings? U know what i mean?
21 Aug 07
yeah when someone said something that just sparks a thought in you, you can't contain? I find that so many times here at mylot. Reckon that is why I am so addictive.
• Denmark
16 Aug 07
Well what can i say honey? If i do not get a reply from the psoter to my responses i will not respond to this particular poster again. Problem is tho, i cant remember them all. That is one reason i would so appreciate a block option on this site
21 Aug 07
Oh a block that will also blow up that person's avatar on our side, LOL! Man I would love that, or it could be like pacman where this little creature comes out and eat's their avatar. Mylot does that it would be a Happy Happy Joy Joy Day for me! :oD
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• Denmark
21 Aug 07
Sure would for me too hunni. Stuff the stupid stars and rating system, most members dont like them or pay attention to them anyway. But if i could have it my way i would make it possible to pm any member of myLot without having to require/accept their friendship first and then i would introduce the block option, you suggestion sounds brill to me. Then i could sit there gloading for myself as packman is eating up the idiots, lol. I dont really understand why myLot have all these stupid rules, which nobody take notice or understand at all, like we are all in need of being controled and told. Give us that block option and i am sure we would figure out ourself, who we want on our guestlist, who we want to reply too or whatever. The feature exist, they use it in both aol and yahoo chatrooms, and it work out great. Det ones who tick you of get blocked and you would never see or hear from them again. They could not reply to your discussions, they could not send pm to you and best of it all you would not see the discussions they post either. Saving you a lot of time. :)