English as a second language Customer Service Representatives Need more Training

United States
November 2, 2007 9:54am CST
This is irking my nerves!!! Why do people that do not speak English well want to be Customer Service Representatives in the US?!? I am not against immigration, but come on!!! Its very frustrating when you have a problem with a product or a service, you call the company to rectify said problem, only you can't because the person on the other line can't understand what you're saying, and you can't understand them either! It can't be very effective for telemarketers and bill collectors either. I was just on the phone with one, he asked for my grandad, who is sleeping. I told him that I wasn't him. Then he asked was I a family member, I told him yes. He then said "Thank you ma'am have a nice day" very quickly, and hung up. I still have no idea what that call was about! I think that if you are going to be calling a certain country, or even just people that speak a different language than your own, you should have to go through some sort of training to read, write, speak, and understand that language fluently before you can take the job!!! What are your thoughts?
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15 responses
@raychill (6525)
• United States
2 Nov 07
I'm just going to say these two things. Thing 1// Not all of them are actually IN the U.S. These representatives may work in any country on any of the seven continents. When you call that 800 number you could be calling Georgia or Washington or Australia or India. As long as the company is represented there, they may have a call center there. So that's partially the reason. Thing 2// When I call one of those numbers and the person can't seem to understand me... or I them. I hang up. Call back. Hope that this time I got someone else. If I didn't. Well I hang up again.
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@raychill (6525)
• United States
2 Nov 07
and I see other people brought up my thing 1. oh well.
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• United States
2 Nov 07
My question is, don't these companies realize they are hurting their business by not training their employees, no matter where they are, to handle their job with utmost efficacy? They have to be losing money on this!
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@raychill (6525)
• United States
2 Nov 07
I always wondered the same thing. But customer service is never a high priority. So long as people are buying and giving them money that's typically what matters. Anyhow, that's probably a question you'd have to ask the companies. Because I certainly wish I knew but don't.
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@RosieS57 (889)
• United States
2 Nov 07
Being aware that the outsourcing of Customer Service has been going on for the last 10 years, I never call. If there isn't a contact e-mail given on the website I use the company information given at http://hoovers.com/free/ to look up who to write to. There is also the advantage of having a paper trail that shows what you have been through in order to resolve the situation. The paper trail is scanable and faxable to the next contact as you make your way up the food chain to get the situation handled appropriately.
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• United States
2 Nov 07
That is a really good idea, although it is time-consuming, you probably get a better result afterwards.
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@RosieS57 (889)
• United States
15 Nov 07
Thanks for the vote of confidence, ljebers! And special thanks to my friend Dark and Lovely for the BR! :-)
@pennycan2 (251)
• United States
2 Nov 07
most of these call centers are actually located outside the US. companies like Charter, ATT, Time Warner and many others are dwindling down their in US call centers and replacing them with outsourced call centers located in India, Mexico and the Phillipines. Frustrating as it is, I don't fault the companies for trying to save a little money. Larger companies that NEED the volume of call centers that these do supply limitless amounts of jobs within the US so I have no problem with the outsourcing. I agree to an extent with you on the training. Most of these people however speak english better than we can speak other foreign languages. My cable company for example has no translators for the large amount of Vietnamese, Mexican and Romanian customers that they have. I used to work for that company and offered several times to take classes sponsored of course by the company to learn a second language. they did not concur with my idea. now, non of the csr's that work there are able to communicate with the massive number of immigrant workers that are flooding to the gulf region. it's frustrating not only for the workers but for the customers as well.
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• United States
2 Nov 07
My question is where are these people?!? There are a lot of representatives that I catch the accent, but I understand them, but I still feel there are too many that don't speak or understand enough English to be speaking with an English-speaking person.
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@ravinskye (8237)
• United States
2 Nov 07
I totally agree. my husband got a call the other day from a woman who was trying to get a payment on our lowes card. He was trying to ask her information because we had recently got a scam call trying to get money on our lowes card also. He couldn't understand anything she was saying. Finally he just said loudly that he would make a payment on Friday and hung up.
• United States
2 Nov 07
This is something that probably could have been solved a lot quicker if the woman on the other end could speak and understand English. This is getting to be frustrating.
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• United States
2 Nov 07
Oh my, yes. It is so tiring. If you have a tech problem with a product and need walked through..what do you get? Someone with an accent so thick that you cannot understand a word they are saying, and apparently they cannot understand what you are saying, either. Some companies just sell out to the cheapest bidder and leave the consumer to pretty much fend for themselves. I find this very frustrating, also. I am not so sure what English speaking consumers can do about it though? Can we ask the person on the phone to hand the phone over to someone that "speaks English"? I have known others to do this and some will transfer the call to someone more fluent.
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• United States
2 Nov 07
I think what we have to do is start complaining to these companies. If enough of us get together they will see the problem and finally do something to resolve this. I don't have anything against outsourcing, but this is taking away from the service that I should get as a customer.
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@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
2 Nov 07
I completely agree. You should see HP's(Hewlett-Packard) customer service. Its horrific for all reasons. I'll say there are like one or two really good service members out there, but the rest make me want to crush the phone. Everyone else described it well though. It is frustrating on the customers end, and underhanded on the part of the manufacturers.
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• United States
2 Nov 07
I believe that if this trend continues, the result will be reflected in the companies' bottom line. We, as consumers, just need to take a stand and start complaining about this.
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• United States
3 Nov 07
I cannot agree with you more. I would like to talk to someone who has really been in my situation and who live in my country talk to me, and not people from India or the Philipines (no offense to anyone from those countries), but seriously, how do any of you people know what we are going through here and how our computers operate? None of you people have a clue, also your command of the English Language could use a lot of work. American English is quite different from England's English.
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• United States
5 Nov 07
Whoa slow down!!! Even though these are people from a different country, Bill Gates made their OS just like he did ours. Its not a culture difference that makes this problem, its the language barrier.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
2 Nov 07
It's very irritating to say the least! We used to have MCI for our long distance service and whenever we needed customer service we'd be on hold for at least an hour then we'd finally get someone who could speak almost no English. My husband asked where they were located and he was told the Phillipines. I'm against this outsourcing. My sister-in-law worked for Merrill Lynch and she had to train people from India who were going to take her job. Also, has anyone else heard about Sprint dropping customers who had called customer service "too often"? Is that a crock, or what? Annie
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• United States
2 Nov 07
I haven't heard of people being dropped from Sprint for calling too much, but I have heard some other bad practices they have, including cutting people off for going over their credit limit for as little as 5 cents, so this doesn't surprise me. Sprint just recently teamed up with our local cable company to provide cellular service. I already don't like the cable company for always going up on their rates, so hearing this sent a definate chill down my spine!
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@theprogamer (10534)
• United States
2 Nov 07
Man, that's just sad. I keep telling people companies are getting out of control. Cutting corners, not inspecting products, not doing things properly, cutting costs in a Pyhrric fashion... Certainly something else to think about, thanks Annie.
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@jazgottt (1180)
• Poland
2 Nov 07
hi drknlvly. I agree with you. I don't live in English speaking country and I don't even try to get a job where it is necessary to use English fluently. But I understand the whole situation. In my opinion, there are 2 possible reasons of this situation: not everyone wants to work at call centre. It is not an ideal job... Maybe it's simply hard to get a good employee. Or they come and go - they work for a while, than resign. There could be intensive rotation of workers. Of cours companies should train their workers as much as it's possible. Second possible reason is, what was mentioned earlier, that companies prefer to engage cheap than qualified worker. Whatever is the reason it could be annoying. Have a nice day. jazgottt
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@jazgottt (1180)
• Poland
5 Nov 07
It's nice to see someone with other opinion than mine:). I often think different than other people, I don't know the reason;). In my country it isn't popular job, people generally don't like to work as a call center worker. I am also not willing to work there. Of course it's better place to work than Mc Donalds, there's no comparition;). I agree, that all workers should be well trained and the companies should take care of it. No matter what is the reason of this situation, it is improper. take care. jazgottt
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• United States
5 Nov 07
I have to disagree with you on the Call center not being an ideal environment. Most of my career has been in call centers, and I've always been happy at my job as long as I had a phone and a computer. If a person doesn't want to work in a call center, they shouldn't apply there. I do understand the revolving door theory. I have seen a lot of people come and go when working in a call center.
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@devilsangel (1817)
• United States
3 Nov 07
Well most of it is due to outsourcing, and frankly there is nothing we can really do about it. I haven't really had to many problems understanding customer service people from other countries, its the idiots here that are driving me nuts. I spent 45 mins on the phone last Saturday trying to cancel my Debit card cause it was lost in the machine. The guy spoke english he was just a retard apperently. I had to repeat everything to him like 10 times and he still kept asking the same stupid questions. I wanted to reach through the phone and smack him. So now with a lot of my stuff if I have issuse I go to the direct store and handle it that way. If my cell phone has problems I go into a store, same with my cable. I hate dealing with phone jockies anyway.
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• United States
5 Nov 07
That is a good solution for those who have the time and transportation to go to the direct stores instead of waiting for customer service. But what about those who don't? I don't want to believe that we, as paying consumers, have no recourse to this.
@alamode (3071)
• United States
3 Nov 07
Usually, when I come across the language problem, I ask to speak to a supervisor. They will most likely speak better English, which is necessary for me to be able to understand. It simplifies finding out what they're selling, and I can tell them to put me on the 'no-call' list without anyone being confused!LOL!
• United States
5 Nov 07
That is a good tip!!! I never thought to speak to the supervisor, I always thought that they would have just as thick an accent as the person I spoke with.
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• United States
5 Nov 07
That is a good tip!!! I never thought to speak to the supervisor, I always thought that they would have just as thick an accent as the person I spoke with.
@alamode (3071)
• United States
5 Nov 07
I learned this the hard way... there was a mix-up when I bought my computer, and he made it worse because we both just didn't understand. Once I spoke to the supervisor, it was cleared up in minutes!
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@ayou82 (3450)
• Philippines
3 Nov 07
I guess those company doing this should give their employees a training. Coz sometimes customer representatives over do it. They put too much effort trying to mimic how western countries speak. They imitate that to much and the result is you dont get to understand what theyre are trying to say.
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• United States
5 Nov 07
I haven't had a person who mimics the language yet. Most I speak to have too much of a hard time getting the basics of the language to try an accent.
@sparkster (181)
3 Nov 07
i totally agree, we got the same problem in the uk. My friend rang an internet call centre for help and some foreign guy who couldnt speak proper english tried to guide her through and when she gave up because she couldnt understand him he said to her 'dont you people know how to use the internet or what?'. Yet I had an job interview in the same place, I speak fluent english and I'm top notch with the internet and they turned me down!
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• United States
5 Nov 07
Sounds like you are part of the old "Overqualified" category. ^_^ They probably thought they would have to pay you too much!!!
@airlines (44)
• United States
3 Nov 07
I am a triligual speaker and its a bit hard to speak in three different languages correctly so give them some love they really feel much better.
• United States
5 Nov 07
It's not the representatives themselves that I get mad at, I understand that they are doing the best that they can with the knowledge they have. Its just that I feel they should have more knowledge and training available to them, so they can perform at their best and get the message across to the desired audience.
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• India
3 Nov 07
i understand your problem and kind of irritation when anything like this happens. But you have to understand that service industry have bad ,mediocre and best providers.Based on this their charges for providing services vary.Now the company which has opted for outsourcing is doing so to cut costs.But sometimes they want to save more money and opt for service providers who have no credentials but charging less money.The company is to be blamed for this. If by any chance you visit India,you will be surprised the cultural changes in youth and kind of perfect English they speak.The established BPO groups have streamlined there recruitment functions and provide best training.But definitely in thriving industry there are bound to be some sub standard providers.This will happen anywhere and not in India only. The company which is planning to outsource services should do some research to hire best services instead of thinking of saving few more bucks.
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• United States
5 Nov 07
Again, my problem is with the companies that do not train the representative, not the representatives themselves. I just feel that even though these companies are trying to save money, they shouldn't do it at the expense at very basic customer service.