Hillary Giuliani Clinton
By jormins
@jormins (1223)
United States
February 13, 2008 11:09am CST
Have you seen after being swept last night and losing the women vote and almost losing the Latino vote, 2 of her former strongholds, now Hillary is holed up in Texas? (I couldn't tell if she was at The Alamo or not)
They vote in Wisconsin and Hawaii next week. No one votes in Texas until March 4th, in three weeks. Despite Hillary firing two of her top campaign officials she is now employing a Giuliani type strategy ignoring states before March 4th.
Is Hillary really this popular in Texas or is this just desperation? It really makes no sense to me as she is losing by huge margins now in places she should be winning. Hillary will basically need a sweeping win in Texas as the delegates are proportional. Why isn't she even competing in the smaller states? Giuliani used this tactic and lost so much momentum that McCain defeated him in Florida even though Giuliani spent months there.
3 responses
@Smith2028 (797)
• United States
13 Feb 08
Hillary only has a few states left. The mistake Guiliani made was he put all his faith in one state too early. Holding Florida as a strategy showed him weak in the first few states and therefore brought serious questions about whether or not he is electable.
Hillary's strategy may work. Texas, Ohio, and Pennsylvania are three key states left for the two Democrats. Her strategy to keep Texas may just work for her.
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@jormins (1223)
• United States
14 Feb 08
It is possible as I think it'd be a huge mistake to underestimate the Clinton's and their desire to possess the White House again. But to me she has to try and slow Obama down. If he rolls again next Tuesday he'll have won 10 states in a row and will lead 150+ easily in pledged delegates. To me its more about momentum than delegates for her as she won't catch up even if she sweeps March 4th. She needs to try and slow Obama down or I think we'll see many more Virginia-like results to come for her.
Yeah I was shocked Giuliani didn't at least try in those first 5 or so primaries. He didn't have to win those but by performing so badly he shot himself in the foot. Its ironic I have 3 month old articles in which I had no doubt he'd be the Rep. nominee. Crazy how quickly in 3 months things can change on the political landscape.
@bcote212 (1112)
• United States
13 Feb 08
I am voting for Hillary 100%, but was thinking the same thing. She was in El Paso Texas last night. I actually used to live in El Paso :) Texas is a very important state because of the number of electoral votes that the state has. States like HI, and WI dont have nearly as many as TX, so if she was to win both those states, but obama won texas he would still end up with more electoral votes. The most important states as far as electoral votes are: California, Texas, Illinois, New york, and Florida. Basically if someone one all of those states and lost all the others they would still have enough electoral votes on their side to win the nomination for their party. The democratic proscess isnt it a beautiful thing?
@jormins (1223)
• United States
13 Feb 08
Yeah they need to be real careful if its a brokered convention. Obama leads by like 105 voted or pledged delegates but only about 25 if you take into it the super's. I'm hoping one candidate wins the popular vote & delegates or it could get real messy. Plus the mess with Michigan and Florida.
@jormins (1223)
• United States
13 Feb 08
It worries me that the Clinton's can backroom wheel and deal their way to the White House. Really unless Obama sweeps the remaining states by huge margins there will be some brokering going on. Apparently this happened with Mondale in the past, Hart had more pledged but Mondale got the nod.
I doubt it happens this time, if Hillary loses Texas, then I think Super Delegates starts defecting and then its all over for her. If she wins Texas, it might get very messed up opening the door for the Republicans to capitalize on it.
@petebaja (516)
• Mexico
13 Feb 08
I know what you mean. I was dumbfounded when Giuliani went from a front runner into a disappearing act. That strategy of ignoring early primaries for Florida was about as smart as Bill Belichick going for it on 4th down instead of kicking the field goal in the Super Bowl.
How did I come up with that analogy?
@jormins (1223)
• United States
13 Feb 08
Its very ironic Giuliani basically handed McCain the nomination with his terrible strategy. I'm shocked Hillary isn't even trying in Wisconsin its not that small a state and she's already lost 8 in row with large margins, it'll be 10 in row it looks like before anyone votes in Texas.
As for the big game, I don't remember anything from the game. I think I'm suffering PTSBSS, post traumatic Super Bowl stress syndrome. I don't really like the Pats but I hate the Giants. I can't wait for the Draft 4/26 so I don't have to hear about Eli & Strahan anymore.
