Equality or Chivalry?
September 9, 2008 3:24am CST
Did the fight for equality (women's rights) kill chivalry? We've heard it many times before, "chivalry is dead". How true is this? And how do you like it (how do you like the lack of it, or is there really any lack of it)? I got the idea from reading a post about "who do you think should pay for the date?". Some people think the man should cover it (probably to show that he can provide), some people think that the man and woman should split it since they both enjoyed it anyway, feminists probably tell me, "why aren't you suggesting that some people think the woman should pay for it? Are we not good enough?". Now where's the romance in that? So what do you say guys? Is chivalry dead? How do you like it now?
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9 Sep 08
At 57 I'm an old-fahioned male. I think rampant feminism destroyed a lot of the romance in the world. C'mon girls, fight me! We are much more basic and instinctive creatures than we like to believe, in our vanity. Women subconsciously look for a fit and healthy male who can provide, and men's eyes are drawn to child-bearing hips. Dinosaur? Yes, I am, and if the trapping of so-called civilisation were removed suddenly (war, famine, disease) we would revert very quickly to our natural state.
9 Sep 08
Yes I agree with you. "Rampant feminism destroyed a lot of romance in the world" was perfectly phrased. I'm not feminist but I do enjoy my human rights and I do believe that women have special rights because we ARE women. We are physically weaker than men by design. That alone shows how different we are from you and how different are needs are from men. I like being treated special because I'm a woman. I don't understand why others fight for being treated like "one of the boys", it's not cute at all.
9 Sep 08
I think that both can co-exist quite easily if people just weren't so uptight about political correctness! Chivalry IS fast becoming a disappearing art and this is a shame really. I have actually had one personal experience of opening a door once for a woman who then snapped at me by saying that she was perfectly capable of opening a door herself?? This surprised me big time. The fact she was a woman was irrelevant and I would have held the door open for anybody. I just apologised to her and said that I was sorry but I thought she was a LADY and left it at that! lol. Equality can exist by both people sharing the costs of the date for example; but the chivalry part of opening doors for the lady and sitting after she has sat herself etc would be a shame to let go of. I will continue to be chivalrous wherever possible and if some people choose to get funny about it then who cares!
9 Sep 08
Do accept my apologies for my fellow womankind for that very, very rude treatment. That was unacceptable of her! And please don't mind her, we like it when men keep the door open for us and we like it when we are seated well. It makes us feel special. It makes us feel a little weak but if someone has enough self esteem, she'd know that she's not being belittled by those sweet gestures. I guess that's it! Some women feel belittled and we have to encourage them and assure them that no one's belittling them. Of course your action is totally different from how some companies treat women - they prefer men because they don't have maternity leaves. That's pretty out of topic but I felt that it was relevant to raise.
12 Sep 08
Certainly no need to apologise! All we can do is carry ourselves personally in what we believe to be the most polite way possible. there will always be those that see things negatively even when they are not negative at all. Thanks for the best response too!