Do atheists not love their parents?

@Teyjattt (126)
United States
September 10, 2008 3:14pm CST
I wasn't sure how to entitle this discussion, but I think that states it clearly. My question arises from the many responses (which may not all be from atheists) that seem to insist that those of us who attend church and like to discuss our beliefs (discuss, not force them on others), only do it because we fear a wrathful God. I try to follow His commandments because I love Him, just as I obey my parents because I love them. So my questions arises from that idea. Do atheists (or Christian bashers in general) not love their parents? I think if they did they might better understand why some of us attend church regularly (BTW this is not an attack on atheists and Christian bashers, I'm sure they love their parents.)
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@switlyf (650)
• Philippines
11 Sep 08
im not an atheist but i guess the answer is no. As an atheist they don't believe that a God exist because they can't see them.But with regards to parents i guess they also have a heart and i bet they love their parents.Its only religion that makes them different. Happy mylotting, cheers!
@Teyjattt (126)
• United States
11 Sep 08
Thank you for the response. My question was to start some discussion around why they believe Christians only serve God out of fear. I thought if they understand that they love their parents and obey their parents because they love them, maybe they can understand that we can obey God because we love Him. I have no doubts they love their parents (as stated in my original post).
@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
11 Sep 08
As a Christian and one who loves God, I did love my parents. After all they were mum and dad, and I was their child. So I never was afraid of them. I sometimes did not like them in what they did, because they were human and made mistakes -yes I made some as well but that is not the point. The point is just as I loved my parents when they were still alive, I love God and I obey God because I love HIM just as I obeyed my parents because I loved them and they gave me life. So God gives all of us life and we would not be here without HIM starting the whole process back in Genesis. So I cannot understand Atheists assume that we are like the pagans of old who worship things of wood and stone and actually worship demons who are spiritual beings who can harm, believe that we worship God because we are afraid of HIM. And their assumption that Christians are cowards and as soon as God's back is turned (if that is possible,) we go play the lottery, steal from our neighbors, etc. They are truly fools.
@Teyjattt (126)
• United States
11 Sep 08
Their assumption that Christians are cowards and go on sinning as soon as God's back is turned so to speak is most likely based on fact. I know I have seen people like that, I have to believe you have seen people like that too. But the first half of your reply is exactly what I'm talking about. We grew up loving our parents, obeying them because we loved them. I'm trying to point out (and it may be a bad analogy per a previous reply) that the relationship is similar, after all he is our Father in heaven. My question based around that idea, that if atheists can't believe we obey out of love, does that mean they didn't obey their parents out of love? It was really a rhetorical question, I know they love their parents. I'm just wanting to start some discussion to uncover the consistent attacks that we only serve out of fear.
@pillusch (1149)
• Mexico
11 Sep 08
I don't understand atheists and their compulsion to proof that God doesn't exist per se. If HE really doesn't exist, why bother? What are they afraid of? I wouldnt invest my time arguing that star x in x galaxy doesn't exist unless there would be something bothering me about that star, and I would have to argue it away. I totaly respect agnostics, because they basically say 'I dunno, maybe yes, maybe no', but they don't have that missionary zeal to prove HIS non-existence. Emanuel Kant said that by using his reason he couldn't proof that God exists, but he couldn't disprove it either. I like that.
@Teyjattt (126)
• United States
11 Sep 08
I would guess they are so passionate about proving He doesn't exist because we are so passionate about proving He does. I can't blame them for that. Some people want/need proof, hard undeniable proof. If everyone continued telling you that God doesn't exist and they can prove it, I'm sure you would get more passionate about proving He does. I'm willing to bet if we (not us, but Christians in general) stopped trying to force everyone to believe the same things we did, they probably wouldn't be so vocal about it. So maybe in a way you have answered my question. Do they accuse us of only serving out of fear as a defense mechanism because they are sick of being preached to?
@savmot (261)
11 Sep 08
Not really comparable, as atheists KNOW that they're parents exist, they know them, they have been looked after by them and they have physical hard evidence for it. And because most peoples parents don't promise them hell for eternity if they do something wrong...
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@Teyjattt (126)
• United States
11 Sep 08
Just because atheists don't believe there is a God, doesn't mean He doesn't exist. And yes the punishment for disobeying is very different for each. Do you think because the punishment is eternal damnation that we only serve because we fear? Honestly hell is just a concept, something that will happen later. If I commit a sin now, I'm not going to hell right now. As opposed to when I was a child, if I didn't obey, I was punished immediately. I didn't obey my parents because I was afraid of them, and even though the punishment isn't as harsh as eternal damnation, the punishment is very concrete and immediate. I am far from a perfect person, how could I think I'm better than anyone else?
@Ravenladyj (22937)
• United States
11 Sep 08
Do atheists (or Christian bashers in general) not love their parents? I'm sorry but those really are two completely different things as far as I'm concerned...Now granted I'm NOT Christian NOR am I atheist BUT I'm a spiritual woman and so on..How I feel about my parents has NOTHING TO DO WITH my religion or beliefs whatsoever...I DO KNOW a few Christians however who do love god but have no love for either one or both of their parents and rightfully so.... Its like apples and oranges IMO
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@Teyjattt (126)
• United States
11 Sep 08
Thank you for disagreeing without having to resort to the typical response of how Christians think only they can be good. I thought it was Christians who always got so defensive, but atheists seem to be even worse if they feel like they are being attacked, so I truly appreciate your civil response. As far as my original statement, it might be a bad analogy. I was trying to think of something that could be at least close, again this whole discussion started because the typical atheist response to Christians is that we only follow because we live are lives in fear and that we all think we are so much better than anyone else. I'm just hoping to spark some discussion around that and find out why they feel that way, I clearly stated in the last statement that I don't really believe they don't love their parents, more of rhetorical question. Despite that, I still got statements proclaiming how Christians think they are so much better than everyone else.
@myklj999 (20046)
11 Sep 08
I think I understand what you're trying to say here, but I think you chose a poor analogy to do it. Not all people that don't believe in your God think you follow Him out of fear; I understand many of you do it out of love.
@Teyjattt (126)
• United States
11 Sep 08
That may be, and it definitely isn't aimed at those people. But it seems I see it a lot on these discussions where Christianity is the central theme of the topic and someone gets on there bashing Christians and specifically saying how we only go to church because we fear God and so on. That's the whole point of me starting this discussion. It's becoming abundantly clear that my analogy wasn't the best, can you suggest a better one?
@myklj999 (20046)
11 Sep 08
No...everything I come up with is bound to upset one group or another...some ideas are hard to get across here, as I'm sure you're beginning to realise. But I do understand what you meant.
@cyntrow (8524)
• United States
11 Sep 08
Teyjatt, I hope you realize that many are just bashing back.
@cyntrow (8524)
• United States
11 Sep 08
I would like for you to look back at your post and put yourself in the place of a pagan or an athiest or an agnostic. Then, I want you to put yourself into the place of an individual in any of these groups who have been told too many times that they will burn in hell. From there, see how your discussion looks. Now, I want you to see The diverse Christian movement for what it is and see that many, many So called Christians are as$holes who are afraid. They believe that God has told them that they must convert.THey have a quota and they try to scare people of different spiritual beliefs. It sucks and it's wrong. Your analogy was offensive, and I don't believe you meant it that way. I have many friends, pagan, athiest and agnositic. Not a single one puts me, as a Christian, into the same catagory as those idiots who believe that God will strike them if they question anything. I personally, think that many atheists, agnostics, and Pagans are more Christ like than folks who call themselves Christian. And, If I viewed the God that I love they way some "Christians" view Him, I couldn't love him. I couldn't follow him. I don't fear him. I respect Him. Sorry so lengthy. I hope you understand what I am trying to say. BTW, I get a little tired of being told that I am less than Christian because I don't call myself born again, because I believe in gay rights, because I believe that all good people go to heaven, because I believe in other versions of scripture, because I believe in Christ's words and not Paul's. What would Jesus do? Sorry for the rant. Continue, please. LOL
@Teyjattt (126)
• United States
11 Sep 08
I'm willing to be the ones that ell you that you are "less than Christian" are the same as$holes you referred to. It's good to have other denominational friends like that. I have a good wiccan friend that I talk with about this kind of stuff all the time. Her response to my question is that their are dumb as$es everywhere, some are Christian, some are not =) What I find disturbing about your statement that others look down on you, is that those are the same people (in my experience) who make comments about how those extremists that practice Islam should let us follow what we believe just like we let them follow what they believe. Kind of hypocritical, and yes I've overheard almost that exact statement being said(long story). Thank you for your response, I wish I could go back and reword it a bit, as I wasn't trying to be offensive.
@checapricorn (16066)
• United States
11 Sep 08
[i]Hi Tey, I am sure they love their parents and it has nothing to do with what they believed! I have meet several people who never attend masses or not active in religious organizations but they have a great heart also, I even encounter one person who is donation one of his pensions in a University to support poor and deserving students and with his money, a lot of those students are very successful now in their endeavor! So, whatever they believed has nothing to do with their relationship to their loved ones and friends![/i]
@Teyjattt (126)
• United States
11 Sep 08
I wasn't suggesting that their belief is based on their relationship with their loved ones. I was trying to introduce a concept that atheists/Christian bashers/whatever obey their parents because they love their parents, not because they fear them. But they can't understand that some of us Christians obey God because we love Him. If they think we only obey God because we fear him, does that stem from them only obeying their parents because they fear them? (I know it doesn't, it's a rhetorical question) I wish I could reword my original post as it seems to have been more offensive to some when my intent was to open up more dialog on the subject.
• United States
10 Sep 08
You're kidding right? Again the question begs to be answered why is it that Christian's, followed by their chosen few, feel they are the only people who are entitled to things that are good and right? Atheists do not believe in the same things that others believe in but they still believe in something (however they choose to term it, it is right for them) and they are not monsters by any stretch of the imagination. Some of them that I have met are more humble and sincere than 98% of the so called Christians I have run across.
@Teyjattt (126)
• United States
10 Sep 08
I wasn't seriously suggesting they didn't love their parents. I was trying to make a point that it is possible for Christians to follow God not because they fear Him but because they love Him. Just as we obey our parents because we love them and not because we fear them. Atheists seems to consistently point out that Christians follow God only because they (we) fear Him and not because we love Him. You are perfectly right in asking why many Christians have that attitude, but that is another discussion, and it isn't only Christians that have that attitude. I'm just asking if they love their parents how can they not understand that we follow because we love our God. It's ludicrous to think they don't love their parents, but I think it's ludicrous to think Christians don't love their God.
@ketybhagat (4125)
• India
12 Sep 08
I think the comparision is wrong. An atheist maynot believe in God, but that does not mean he has no emotions for his parents or family. Maybe they are more attached to their parents because their love is undivided. Believing in something or someone and loving the family are poles apart.
@IsisGreen (555)
11 Sep 08
Hi Teyjatt, Your analogy to God as a parent is one I've heard before. I can see why it works if you believe in God and believe he is your Creator. So loving Him like a parent is entirely reasonable and the analogy works for you. However, to an atheist who does not believe there is a God who is their creator, the concept of loving Him as a parent is ridiculous. Atheists love just their parents like they love their parents. They don't have an extra sort of parent in God to love like a parent. In terms of some of the slightly hostile responses you've had on here, I think this was exactly what you should have expected when you started a threat ostensibly in response to 'people thinking Christians only attend Church out of fear', and used as your main attempt at argument the provocative question: 'do atheists not love their parents?'.
• Philippines
11 Sep 08
Ofcourse everyone loves their parents. It is not because one is an atheist he or she have no love or respect for her parents. Everyone was born with feelings so no matter if you have a religion or not doesn't exempt you from loving your parents. Atheist are not heartless.