South Africans will soon require a visa

@maximax8 (31053)
United Kingdom
April 2, 2009 2:10pm CST
I have just read that as from June 30th South African visitors will require a visa to visit my home country. I visited South Africa in January and didn't need a visa. I thinking needing a visa can be off putting. When I went to Jordan the visa cost was high. There was a list of visa charges for different nationalities and my home country had the third most expensive charge. I haven't yet been to Russia because of the expensive visas and bothersome process. It is likely South Africa react by making us get visas to go there. What do you think about visas? Why do you think the UK plans South Africans to have visas to visit?
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@valpopa (154)
• Italy
3 Apr 09
maximax..by the way..I was wondering how come you have a blue star above your photo with number 10 in it. Does that indicate you have been here for long or what? Sorry because it doesn't really belong to this discussion.
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@maximax8 (31053)
• United Kingdom
3 Apr 09
You will get a star you you reach 100 posts on My Lot. It will be a star and a color. The star you will get will be a 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 or 1. Ten is the highest and one is the lowest. For example a My Lot member with a red star with a 9 in it might have just reached 100 posts and he or she could go up to 10 or down to 8. It depends if My Lot members give a + or a -.
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@maximax8 (31053)
• United Kingdom
4 Apr 09
You are welcome, thanks. You will soon reach 100 posts I think.
@valpopa (154)
• Italy
3 Apr 09
Thanks for explaining...you got a + from me :)
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
2 Apr 09
I am Canadian and I need a passport to visit other countries, even the States. I do not like the idea of visas because they sort of restrict the kind of people who are allowed in. And may be used to keep out people who have fled the country because they are afraid if they stayed in their homeland, they will be murdered. I think this is happening in South Africa, because after Apartheid was ended, there were probably a large number of blacks there who felt that things should have happened as they did in Zimbabwe where the white farmers were driven off their land and those who stood their ground were murdered. (Now I am sure that when you get down to this, if your ancestors had come to South Africa over 200 years ago, then someone else has settled in your former farm or home back in the Netherlands or in England, so there is absolutely no place to go back to. And some of the people who came from foreign countries, like for instance India, Japan, China, whatever have moved into England and the Netherlands. And if they returned and drove them out, then there would be a big stink). And that means that quite a number of the Afrikaans, etc. will want to leave. I can see keeping terrorists out, but to make it harder for honest people to leave because if they stay, their lives are in danger no. Oh and passports in Canada are only good for eight years and they are about $80 a person. Cash cow anyone?
@valpopa (154)
• Italy
2 Apr 09
Good for you...I still have my Canadian passport that is only good for 4 years...I will renew it next year maybe. They've started pulling out the 8 years ones from this year.
@valpopa (154)
• Italy
2 Apr 09
Correction...5 years..just checked it out.
@valpopa (154)
• Italy
3 Apr 09
Apparently Canadians require a passport for the US because of terrorism issues. Lately in the news there have been some discussions in which the Americans visiting Canada were the ones encountering more difficulties because many of them, although having relatives in Canada, never applied for a passport in their entire life! Now they have to and it is funny because they were the ones who brought up the issue in the first place. Strange but true...well, as long as they prevent terrorism it's fine for me.
@sona22 (1430)
• India
3 Apr 09
Visa system is a restriction on free movement of us. By this the authorities are controlling our movements. Passport and visa are the wings of the system.
@maximax8 (31053)
• United Kingdom
3 Apr 09
Always the countries that don't require a visa will be more tempting to go to. I am happy to have a passport but I feel visas are unnecessary. Thanks for your superb response.
@agrim94 (3805)
• India
3 Apr 09
I would think Visa is a must for anyone traveling to other country. With the rise of terrorism so much that it is better to have checks who is coming in your country legally atleast. No one can say now the terrorists come only from a particular country as they are from all countries now. i would support it
@maximax8 (31053)
• United Kingdom
3 Apr 09
It is terrible that terrorists come from all different countries and they are making countries government think they need to make visitors produce visas. One thing that I thought was unfair is how different nationalities pay different amounts. Not everyone lives close to an embassy so it might be a traveler needs an agent to get them their visa.
@agrim94 (3805)
• India
3 Apr 09
so why only south Africa u r angry about, u shd be angry about Pakistanis and Bangladeshi needing visa too and Chinese and Indians too.. and all these countries were part of commonwealth except China and in common wealth countries noone needed visas but England and then Canada were first to introduce them and rightly so.
@Ramsay (130)
• Canada
2 Apr 09
well it probably all has to do with protection of countries..although im not sure how..I always though that most info was contained in a passport..so what is really the purpose of a visa...except to allow entry to another country. There are many deseases unfortunately coming out of south africa so perhaps its an attempt to curb some of this as well. Its so that everyone knows where everyone is, in the world at any time if they may be a threat
@maximax8 (31053)
• United Kingdom
2 Apr 09
When I was in South Africa I saw some disturbing posters mentioning diseases like TB. Seeing those I thought oh my goodness considering I am pregnant and I was with my toddler son. I read the figures showing HIV positive people and I wondered if anyone has got it in Cape Town. All the people seemed friendly and helpful. A passport can be read by a machine these days so I think visas are unnecessary.
• United States
3 Apr 09
What? I'm surprised we didn't already require one! What anarchist let that happen? Everyone coming to a new country must be scrutinized for terrorism, criminality, welfare scamming, the possibility of them remaining here illegally, or other parameters of fitness. Grow up and stop trying to tear down this country.
@maximax8 (31053)
• United Kingdom
3 Apr 09
I am an ordinary person and so are most other travelers in the world. Terrorists are in the minority. I love South Africa and I haven't said anything bad about it nor my home country thank you.
• United States
7 Apr 09
Yeah, Maxiflow, go ahead and just ignore every single thing I said, you airhead. Really, no one can be THAT dumb, so you must be insidious. Sounds like you are trying to enable all sorts of undesirable behavior.
@rashmie (947)
• United Arab Emirates
2 Apr 09
It is amazing to hear that there was no requirement of Visa for a UK citizen to travel South Africa. In my country, India, this is a facility which we get only if want to travel Bhutan and Nepal. I think, what your government is doing is perfectly right. Visa allowed administration to check efficiently about the antecedent of the person who is travelling inwards. The world has become a dangerous place because of the proliferation of terrorism. In this situation, your country is doing perfectly right. I don't know, but there may also be the reason of controlling the migration. In India, we always heard news about the UK attempt to curb the migration. In the age of economic recession the policy of 'sons of the soil' has become a mundane stuffs.
@maximax8 (31053)
• United Kingdom
2 Apr 09
Perhaps the government see it as a way of controlling migration and making sure criminals don't get in. Most South African people on my flights there and back would have been fairly wealthy and I imagine none of them wanted to stay forever in the UK. Terrorism is sad but I met such friendly and helpful people in South Africa. I am not in favor of visas.
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• India
3 Apr 09
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@valpopa (154)
• Italy
2 Apr 09
I think visas are the typical diplomatic scams on earth...they prevent the free movement of people from one country to another. To me it gives me the idea of how politics can control the movement of people as if they were cattle. Anyway, most likely the visa issue comes up every time the economical instability comes into play, as visas prevent bulk migration of people from areas of the world where economical conditions drive people out of their countries. I am sorry to hear this is happening for S.Africa but Ihope they remove it soon.
@maximax8 (31053)
• United Kingdom
2 Apr 09
I think visas really restrict people and their traveling can suffer as a result. I wonder if Australians still need a visa to visit France. Many of them visit my home country and want to tour mainland Europe. I went to Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia last year and I just needed my passport. To get visas to Russia would have cost me £300 for me and my toddler son. I would have had to bother of getting his dad to sign paperwork as well. So I haven't yet been to Russia. Thanks for your excellent response.