which or who?

@jb78000 (15139)
August 15, 2009 11:10am CST
in english you have a choice of pronouns for animals. who suggests that the animal is a person, and which not so much. so what animals do you use 'who' and for and what ones do you use 'which' for? in my case it tends to be who for individuals and which when i'm generalising. i also don't think i've ever used who for insects
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@fifileigh (3615)
• United States
16 Aug 09
i dont think i have ever used either which or who for my pets. i just use their names.
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@fifileigh (3615)
• United States
16 Aug 09
no, i call my pets by name. they dont understand who or which anyway. but they know their name and my voice well. or i say, hey, gumby, where are you? when i cant find him.
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@fifileigh (3615)
• United States
16 Aug 09
yeah. when i talk about them with others, and i have many times with many internet people on different sites, is say gumby is doing this and that right now or he is sleeping on the couch or sleeping in his cat tree. or he is playful and active. i never refer to him as who or which. it just doesnt make any sense to me.
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@jb78000 (15139)
16 Aug 09
meant when you're talking about them. sorry, i'm good at confusing people (including myself)
@PeacefulWmn9 (10420)
• United States
15 Aug 09
Good question, Jb. I always refer to a person as a "who" and an animal as a "which." But I suppose an animal could also be a who. What is which, and which is who? I feel like I'm in a Suess book lol. Karen
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• United States
15 Aug 09
Naw, that was just a lame attempt at being funny lol. But...I have been thinking. I might say the cat that/or which lives down the street, but if I had a cat of my own, I'd probably say: my cat, whose name is Kitty... So for me, it all depends.
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@jb78000 (15139)
15 Aug 09
i often feel like that here. well, do i win most confusing discussion again?
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@jb78000 (15139)
16 Aug 09
it was funny. everybody uses these words a bit differently with animals, even biological texts books are not consistent.
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@Trace86 (5030)
• United States
15 Aug 09
I don't think I have ever really thought about it. I believe that every living creature deserves to be a who though. I agree that insects ought to be a which! You can't really look into a millipede's eyes and see its individuality like you can my cat. My cat is a distinct individual with her own personality and traits. She is most definitely a who and a part of my family. Even the dogs my husband walks for his job are distinctly whos too.
@jb78000 (15139)
15 Aug 09
i think most people use who for their pets. i haven't heard my dog, which......very often
@Trace86 (5030)
• United States
7 Nov 09
Thank you for best response!
@sutent (1060)
• China
16 Aug 09
Hi, I also never be aware of it. And i am completely agree with you that every living creature deserves to be the pronouns "who". Why "who" is the only patent of human? We should not view any creatures just in our human eyes. The word "all creatures are equal" from Buddhism is very corrective, although i am not a Buddhists or even a fan. Happy mylotting!
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• United States
15 Aug 09
Oh boy this is making me feel like I am back in the Business English class I took over the summer, where we only went over grammar, it was enlightening but very confusing. I think that I use "who" for animals, I think of my pets as part of the family so I definitely use person pronouns, I think the only time I don't use those for animals is when I don't know the gender.
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@jb78000 (15139)
16 Aug 09
i teach english as a foreign language. i'd never even noticed this before that but i've had to teach relative clauses so many times and the only interesting bit of what is very dull grammar is the animal thing.
@ZephyrSun (7381)
• United States
15 Aug 09
That's very interesting, your English. I can't really make to much of a comment because referring to an animal as a who would not be proper English in the states. At least none that I am aware. Animals are not considered a pronoun unless of course they have a name. My duck's name is Aflac, so his name is the only pronoun. Or is that what you mean?
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@jb78000 (15139)
15 Aug 09
you know what i mean.
@sutent (1060)
• China
16 Aug 09
Hi jb, I never ba aware of it, much less use who represent annimal. But it is really a good topic. Maybe next time, i will try it per your suggestion. But i am afraid that my boss will consider i make a grammer mistake. I know that in sometime we substitute "she/he" for "it" to represent something. Such as we always use she for our homeland. Look forward to continuous sharing, as least with me. It is very helpful. Happy mylotting!
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@jb78000 (15139)
16 Aug 09
it goes like this, i love my dog, who is a black labrador. is correct and so is i love my dog, which is a black labrador. they indicate, to a degree, the views of the speaker. any other questions let me know