Have our governments left it too late?

Australia
November 14, 2006 9:07pm CST
Do you think the governing bodies have left global warming and the environment issues a little too late? I personally think the australian govt is a bit slack on the subject and has now left it a little late to try and fix things...we have known about these issues for years and years and now we are seeing the damage.
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@ossie16d (11821)
• Australia
5 Jan 07
It is never too late really, as doing something at any time is better than doing nothing at all. For many years I have been in favour of recycling water and we in fact did this on our farm to a small extend. Also desalination is another option as is allowing people to instal rainwater tanks, which were banned for many yeas in the Melbourne metropolitan area. Every new house that is build or where there are major renovations done should have to instal a recycling system as well as a rain water tank. There are just so many things that can be done and are not although when Toowoomba held their referendum last year on recycling water the electors voted with a resounding NO. There should be subsidies for those who do these things and also incentives in the way of rate reductions but again we will have to be out of water completely before anything is done in the majority of states. When we are in a drought, forget the environmental flows into the rivers as they never had them in the past. Look back at the history of various explorers who wite about having to carry their canoes because there was no water. I know that South Australia is in serious trouble with water unless we get a lot of rain in the coming months. So, it is never too late and people can do their little bit to assist without waiting for the Government.
@ossie16d (11821)
• Australia
5 Jan 07
Oops sorry about that tigrashadow. I have a discussion going on something similar, i.e. alternative energy sources. I once again believe that we cannot force people to do anything about the power they use, but we can encourage people to use things like solar power and wind power for energy. It is up to the government to look at things like wave and nuclear power, although of course nobody wants them built near them. Alternative energy sources will have the environment as we will be using less fossil fuels. Similarly there has been some encouragement for bio fuels and this is available in limited qualtities in various parts of the country. The thing is that the subsidy on this only goes for about another 4 or so years and after that the price will rise, which will probably make it uneconomical for most people. There should be more investment in the production of bio fuels which will have a two-fold effect in that it will be cleaner for the environment plus we will not be as dependant on oil.
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• Australia
5 Jan 07
exactly...thats what i mean...the governments have not really planned for this even though it was forecast years ago.... every little bit does help but the government coulda pulled their finger out years ago
• Australia
5 Jan 07
as much as i agree that a little is better than none...i dont just mean water ..i mean the lowering of greenhouse gasses and all the other things that the governments could have implemented to help the whole environment...though of course australia is more worried about the water crisis at the moment....
@ossie16d (11821)
• Australia
24 Jan 07
I was interested to see in the newspaper today that the PM has appointed Malcolm Turnbull as Minister for Environment and Water Resources and there is going to be a national summit on these issues. It shall be interesting to see what will become of it actually, although I suspect that the States will still not be interested in handing anything over to the Federal Government. At least this is a step in the right direction.
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@ossie16d (11821)
• Australia
16 Feb 07
It didn't take the states long to say "we'll take the money but we want it done our way". That makes me so mad tigrashadow, particularly in the case of South Australia which does look like it will be out of water unless something is done really soon. I do not have a problem with the Government buying back irrigation water from the farmers, because the farmer paid for it in the price of his land. Without water the land is worth a lot less than it is with water, so the farmers who lose water should be compensated. Of course, the States will not want that to happen because at present they are the ones who get the money from the farmers for their water licences, and they pay whether there is water available or not. Let's hope that something comes out of the next meeting which is to be held in about a fortnight I think. :)
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• Australia
16 Feb 07
what annoys me is we see these things and we try and come up with solutions but the government doesnt see the problems....i may have moved to south australia 2 yrs ago but i certainly dont agree with the government all the time... like i said...our govt as a whole knew about these issues 10-20 years ago but it wasnt urgent back then so they didnt seem to think of finding solutions...till it was too late....or getting too late
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• Australia
26 Jan 07
fingers crossed
@Bunny2 (2102)
• Australia
5 Jan 07
I don't think it's ever too late to make an effort - but yes. the Australian governments have been very slack. The Victorian government liften restrictions earlier last year - WHY? We are in such dire starits now. Our reservoirs are way below the 50% mark. And what are they doing about it? Introducing restrictions they should have kept in place all along. And talking about recycling sewage. That might be OK for gardens, etc, but what about desalination? And what about bulding more dams! There must be a way to bring over the ice bergs that are in the Antarctic Ocean - these are sources of pure water. There must be other alternatives but for some reason they all seem to be tunnel-visioned about such things.
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• Australia
5 Jan 07
thanks for being first to respond to this bunny...i was losing hope that people of the world didnt care... its been heartbreaking here in australia and i saw what vic was like over chrissy...mum drove me back from melb to adelaide on new years eve and the dust that was flying around was heartbreaking... i was saying to friends a while ago...there has to be a way to capture the water going down the drains in cities when the rains hit...and treating it instead of letting it go back into the already well full oceans.... ive also thought there has to be a way to transport those icebergs. at least WA finally got a desalination plant but what bout the rest of australia....the government has had over a decade to try and do something about this...its not like they dont know we are a dry country overall as we have had droughts in the past... of course its better late than never to be doing SOMETHING and the world is trying to help alleviate global warming and stuff but geez..the govt here wastes money on other crap yet not to find better water solutions cos it might cost too much.....what will the cost be if we become a hugely barren dry desert land .... thanks for your response...take care
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@Bunny2 (2102)
• Australia
9 Mar 07
And it's getting worse, Tigrashadow. I saw last night on the news that the Victorian reservoirs are at 33% that is so scary! I heard people on the radio talking baout seeding clouds yet they haven't tried that for years, Given the clouds that have been hanging around on and off it might be a good thing to try. Sometimes the old ways are the ones that work!
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• Australia
9 Mar 07
ye its terrible the state of the reservoirs....we can only hope they start sortin it out soon...
@oldboy46 (2129)
• Australia
13 May 07
Well we have already invested in solar panels for our place, although they do not cover all our needs of course. So the extra money allocated in the budget for solar panels is a great thing. We are not too sure if we will be eligible for the whole amount, because we already have part of it done. It would be nice to think we will get the whole amount, as that would be the cost for the rest that we need. It will cover the house but not all the shedding but maybe later on that will happen too. We walk where we can to do shopping and so on, but with work it has to be driving because of where both my partner and I work. We save where we can though, more for the money but it still helps. We grow all our fruit and vegetables organically, and compost heavily with that. Anything we use is certified organic, no herbicides, pesticides etc and we companion plant instead. We put down old newspapers and straw on the plant beds to conserve water, and have done this even before the drought really hit. We use the grey water from laundry, kitchen and showers to go out onto the fruit trees. I think that things can be fixed certainly, and the subsidy for solar power is a step in the right direction. Last year we got subsidies for putting LPS on vehicles, and that was a bonus too. If everyone did a little bit, all over the world, it would all help. But many countries will do absolutely nothing, which negates what others do. We have planted hundreds of trees on our small patch of dirt, and everyone should plant trees too as that all helps. W