When is a Fetus a Baby

@teamrose (1499)
United States
February 1, 2010 9:01pm CST
So many people think it is okay to have an abortion. They use the argument that it's a women's body and she can do with it what she pleases. They try to ease their conscious by call the baby a fetus. I have seen the how cruelly they rip the baby out of a woman to perform the abortion. I have talked to many women who regret ever making the decision to kill their baby. I even met women that are vegetarians because they think it is wrong to eat meat. But then think it is okay for an abortion? My question today is when do you think the fetus is a baby? How do you sleep at night knowing you have killed a human being?
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@LadyMarissa (12165)
• United States
2 Feb 10
I think a woman's body is hers to do with as she pleases. If she chooses to abort her baby, that is HER decision. It is NOT my place nor your place to make that decision for her. Since you chose the word "murder" in your description, I'm assuming you object due to religious reasons. I've NEVER known a woman who thought she'd feel regret when deciding to abort her child. Most wait a good number of years before reality hits. Then SHE is the one who has to deal with her feelings...NOT me nor you. I think it is God's place to judge us ALL...NOT me nor you!!! It is NOT my nor your place to keep her from going to hell. It is between HER & God!!! The Bible says judge NOT lest ye be judged. Unless your life is TOTALLY perfect, I'd mind my OWN business for fear that God might NOT appreciate you trying to do HIS job for Him!!! Now, if you were being told you HAVE to have an abortion, I'd fight for YOUR rights to NOT have one!!! God gave us a brain for a reason!!!
@LadyMarissa (12165)
• United States
6 Feb 10
It's her decision & her guilt to bear!!! I call it murder because that is what it is. I am not judging her. I am stating my views. I personally think it is wrong to take a life. I think it is especially wrong to take the life of a helpless baby. Yes, you are stating your views. Hers may be just the opposite. She's entitled to her views too!!! I see you don't like being judged. So, why would you think she would??? It is my view that you are being judgmental. Personally, I think the aborted baby is lucky!!! I think it would be WORSE to be born to a mother who resents having you & more than likely will abuse you. We have ENOUGH scarred children due to parents who didn't want them, but were told they had to carry them to term. My neighbor brags she had 7 abortions because she was too lazy to take birth control pills. The 2 she kept wish they had been #8 & #9. I think it's the individual's opinion that matters at the time. Not every woman sees it as murder. Not EVERY woman feels as guilty as you did afterward.
@teamrose (1499)
• United States
7 Feb 10
Again, I say I am not judging anyone. I started this discussion for women to be able to express their point of view. Here on this anonymous forum women can feel free to express their opinions without fear of recrimination. You fight the fight for women to be able to have an abortion while I fight to inform them to consider the alternatives. I'm sure there are millions of women that feel exactly the way you do based on the number of abortions that are routinely performed. At least open discussions like this one will let women in the privacy of their home weigh all the options. No need to hate, just continue your fight, like I will continue mine.
@p3ks626 (6552)
• Philippines
2 Feb 10
I am also pro-life and I also can t understand why a woman would do something as harsh as abortion. It is definitely murder and they will answer to it when the time comes. I was married a year ago and I dont have a baby yet. That's why I also have ill feelings towards women who would commit abortion and not think of the life inside her. I dont believe its their body, it is not their body and it is just borrowed including the life that they have and women dont have the right to take away that life that doesn't belong to them. Sometimes, I also find it unfair because I want a baby and its not given to me yet and others who have it would take it away and treat it like trash. It is just so sad.
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@teamrose (1499)
• United States
2 Feb 10
It is unfair. That is why the cowards that think abortion is fair is staying away from this discussion. This is hitting home to them. Hopefully, discussions like this will save a few lives.
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@jb78000 (15178)
2 Feb 10
i am not a coward but usually stay out of these discussions because i think both sides have some good points [and by saying this i infuriate everybody]
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@p3ks626 (6552)
• Philippines
3 Feb 10
If we understand the essence of life then I think there's no need for abortion. If a woman got pregnant out of wedlock and would want to take the baby away then that is really murder.
@Zhizho (1352)
• Indonesia
2 Feb 10
Hi..I am a peple who did not agree about doing abortion except medical reason. When I was pregnance,I did USG to see how the fetus and in about three months, we have seen that the fetus was been a baby.His part of body was complete.And according to my faith that God has give the soul to the fetus.So the fetus being a right baby.
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@teamrose (1499)
• United States
2 Feb 10
Of course the fetus is a baby. You did the right thing not murdering your child. God wants ever life. Again, the people that believe in abortions have nothing to say to perfect logic. No one wants to admit to being a murderer.
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@Zhizho (1352)
• Indonesia
2 Feb 10
Sorry,I was confuse about the topic maybe because my english is not good.According to book that I ever read that fetus is the name before baby have no complete part of body or they have no soul yet.
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@1indsay (10)
• United States
2 Feb 10
I agree completely. I am pro life and could never think of aborting or killing my baby. I think the fetus is a baby at the moment of conception. Many people say it is the woman's body and therefore her choice, but who is there to vouch for the baby? It is not their 'fault' they were brought into the world, the mother and father's actions would be responsible for that. It is cruel to kill a human being, ( your own flesh and blood) for your 'mistakes'. A mother considering abortion should not punish her child that way, they only have themselves to blame. And i do not understand people who think a fetus/ child in the mother's stomach is not yet a human being. When do they think that child becomes a human being? The second they are born, pow! -you weren't a person/ human but now you are? Abortion is cruel, cowardly way out.
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@teamrose (1499)
• United States
2 Feb 10
Unfortunately, our current government is pro abortion. The right to lifers don't even have to demonstrate anymore as they have the Demoncratic government on their side. We, the silent majority have to let our voices be heard. We spend so much time arguing about nonessential things,and let something as important as the slaughter of babies get pushed under the table.
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@teamrose (1499)
• United States
2 Feb 10
I misspoke, I meant the right to abortion people. We right to life people have a hard way to go.
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• China
3 Feb 10
As a woman, sometimes we had no choice but to choose abortion, even after marriage. Baby comes,however you are not ready for that, including some economic reasons, some reasons like the first baby is still very young, and you do not too much energy to take care of him/her. Raising a baby is not an easy thing, if you cannot take care of them well, it is better not to bring them to the world.
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@teamrose (1499)
• United States
6 Feb 10
If you can't take care of the baby, is it better for you or the baby not to bring it into the world. If the baby had a chance to vote, I bet it would vote "give me a chance, please".
@sassy28 (835)
• United States
2 Feb 10
I could never imagine having an abortion. I am so blessed that the birth mother of my adoptive son did not have an abortion, she told me that she thought about it, since she already had a child her parents were raising and the father was in jail. We are so blessed to have him in our lives. There are so many people out there waiting for babies, it is just tragic that someone could kill an unborn, before giving that child a chance. Have the baby, leave it at the hospital, give them the right to live.
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@teamrose (1499)
• United States
2 Feb 10
So many people are looking for babies and people keep killing them. It has to stop.
@iridium (436)
22 Feb 10
I don't care what you call it. i don't want it growing inside me. so for me pregnancy is something to be avoided but nothing is 100% so if it happens i'm having an abortion. and i'd sleep just fine. it's the only form of birth control there is.
@teamrose (1499)
• United States
22 Feb 10
I truly hope it doesn't happen to you. You have no idea how traumatizing abortion is. If you did you would not treat it so casually.
@iridium (436)
22 Feb 10
read the site imnotsorry.net. it's not traumatizing for everyone. for many it's a simple medical procedure.
• United States
6 Feb 10
I have read all the responses to this discussions and see that a majority of people find that women who have abortion are just horrible heartless people. Well I feel that I have to speak up for women like me. Im 26 and have two gorgeous children and feel that children are great and innocent. However I have had an abortion, I struggled within my self to decide. Im not a cold heartless killer. You ask how a woman can sleep at night. Honestly the first week or so it was on my mind, its comes up sometimes when I think of how old my child would be right now and those types of things. While my decision is not one that anyone in this discussion would choose you wouldnt believe all the women there from all walks of life. And it hurts me to read all the comments that people are saying that we are murderers, heartless, reckless etc. Most women dont share intimate parts of their life with everyone. Who is to say that your friends, family members and coworkers have not had one. Would you treat them any differently if they had? My particular situation was that I was on birth control that failed I have two children already. Everyone says put the baby up for adoption. If you think think having an abortion is difficult mentally and emotionally. try carrying a baby for nine months and everyone knows about your pregnancy, birthing a baby, holding that baby for the first time, and passing them off to someone else and going home empty handed, not to mention all the heartache wondering how they are doing and did they go to a go home. All in all we are not heartless murderers. In the end i have repented for my sin and asked my God for forgiveness, and when my time comes for judgement he will be the one to judge.
@teamrose (1499)
• United States
6 Feb 10
Your response is most welcome. We are not judging you. We are saying how wrong we think the act of abortion is. I'm sure all of us know someone that has had an abortion. We don't treat them any differently than if they hadn't done it. As you stated, you still occasionally have sad memories of what you felt you had to do. You state you repented for your sin, (meaning you feel also that was a wrong thing to do). You are moving on with your life, which is a great thing. I wish you nothing but good fortune in the future. I do hope you are able to totally forget what has happened. I can tell you are a good person. Again, no one is judging you. This thread was started for women who may be contemplating abortion for them to hear from other women the their thoughts and opinions.
@maximax8 (27048)
3 Feb 10
I believe that life begins at conception. At my 13 week pregnancy scan on my notes they wrote 'single live fetus'. I knew I had a baby inside my womb. At 16 weeks pregnancy I went to the fetal medicine unit. I was told 'a baby girl'. That sounded so lovely instead of 'single live female fetus'. I don't agree with abortion. I would not ever have an abortion. I eat a vegan diet. I was offered an abortion at 36 weeks pregnancy but I said no way. I have a disabled son and I am happy to be his mother. Every baby is special and 'fetus' is said by some to avoid emotion. Many ladies that have an abortion get severe depression. Adoption is the right answer and abortion is killing an innocent baby.
@teamrose (1499)
• United States
6 Feb 10
You are so right. Every baby is a gift. Thank you for being a mother.
• Hong Kong
2 Feb 10
yeah how do they sleep at night killing a baby who is super innocent an angel in disguise to be nurture, give love.. and in return will be your lucky lucky life to be..
@teamrose (1499)
• United States
2 Feb 10
They do not sleep well. They have all kinds of psycholgical problems that are directly related to the act of murder. No one should condone abortion. Just imagine if your parents had aborted you.