Vlad the Impaler-the idol of a terrorist
@polaris77 (2040)
Bacau, Romania
July 25, 2011 8:47am CST
It was discovered in the diary of the man who recently committed the most horrible acts of terror in the modern history of Norway that he had a big admiration for Vlad the Impaler,one of the legendary rulers in Romanian history.I guess this admiration comes first from the way Vlad fought against the Ottoman Empire and tried to defend Christianity against the Muslim expansion,and secondly from the infamous method of execution through impaling which Vlad used to punish robbers and dishonest merchants;unfortunately,the horrible acts committed by that psycho in Norway have nothing in common with any form of punishing dishonest people,he simply killed people at random and there is no justification for such horrible deeds,so this association between a historical figure and an insane murderer is really bothering.My question is:How would you react if you read that a historical figure in your country was an idol for such a mad person or even for an entire terrorist organization?
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@polaris77 (2040)
• Bacau, Romania
25 Jul 11
I heard there is a possibility of extending the penalty if it's considered that he will represent a real threat after being released,so he might eventually end his life in prison.
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@marinarovi (1318)
• Argentina
26 Jul 11
I hope he does end his days in prison, because he is a very sick person and I'm sure he'll continue to think he was right after 21 years...
I didn't know that about norwegian law, though. But here in Argentina we have a similar penalty, around 25 years, and I think sometimes that is not enough.
@TheGreatandMightyL (54)
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26 Jul 11
I thought it was 21 years per person that was killed? as each is a separate life sentence?
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
26 Jul 11
It would depend on the historical figure. Here in Canada, the only one that such a person could admire is Louis Riel and he did not do half the horrible things that Vlad the Impaler did. I would have rather that he threw those merchants in jail and made them extremely high fines. It is what historical figure he admired. Of course, he would not have admired Peter the Great or Catherine the Great who were good rulers. Yes a psycho like him as to admire a tsar who went overboard.
I suppose if he were German, the person he would admire would be Hitler, not someone like Frederick the Great.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
27 Jul 11
WEll there were the Quislings who let the Nazi army in to invade Norway. I suppose the Vikings of long ago did not keep any records and if they did, he wold have to go through the list and find the one with the most horrible record of atrocities. I do not know if any of the victims were Muslims. Would it make any difference? For instance, if the victims were just Christians or Christians in name only, would the story not have gotten as much coverage? And is it because there were Muslim victims that is the reason for the story getting coverage? That does not sound right.
I think there were some Muslims but a lot of them were pure Norwegians, but cannot be sure. It could be that some were immigrants from other countries who now had Norwegian citizenship but changed their names to sound Norwegian.
@polaris77 (2040)
• Bacau, Romania
26 Jul 11
I agree that his admiration for Vlad the Impaler didn't trigger his madness,I guess he admires so much firstly because he fought the Muslims.If he were German he would definitely admire Hitler,but I'm curious to why he doesn't have an idol from his own country;perhaps the explanation lies in the fact that Norway had nothing to do with Muslims until recently.
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@marinarovi (1318)
• Argentina
26 Jul 11
I first heard of Vlad the Impaler on a documentary last night, were they where making a comparison between him and Sun Tzu, which of them had the most effective weapons if they could ever fight each other...
I don't deny his greatness in defending Europe, but the impaling thing is a bit too much sadistic for my taste.
About the random killing, I guess in this guy's sick mind the killing was not entirely random, and that the most sad and dangerous part of what happened.
@marinarovi (1318)
• Argentina
3 Aug 11
Of course he didn't care. You can't possibly care AND shoot people at the same time. What I tried to say, and I'm sorry if my english is not good enough, is that maybe in his twisted mind all those people were guilty of something, anything, that made them worth shooting... I don't know... It's terrible when these things happen... I just hope he never EVER gets out of jail.
@polaris77 (2040)
• Bacau, Romania
26 Jul 11
Of course he planned this for a long time,but I think his killing was random,because he didn't care whom he was shooting,he just wanted to kill as many people as possible.Thanks for your response.
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@rappeter13 (8608)
• Romania
17 Aug 11
All I can say is that it doesn't really matter who the idol of this crazy people are. Vlad lived in a different era, where the rules were different and the perception was completely different. Vlad Tepes is a historical figure, there are many legends concerning him, we cannot know the whole truth about him. But those were completely different times.
This crazy person from Norway is a person who is certainly sick and needs to be treated.
@polaris77 (2040)
• Bacau, Romania
17 Aug 11
You're perfectly right;with or without idols,he's a maniac who should never be free.I guess there are many other sick people with such crazy conceptions,but luckily many of them don't have the courage to go on with their crazy ideals till the end.
@surekharathi (14146)
• India
25 Jul 11
Great history knowledge you have I have not such knowledge and I not explain how can react because I am residing in small town and here no historical event occured.
@polaris77 (2040)
• Bacau, Romania
25 Jul 11
I see;unfortunately there are still many terrorist attacks from mindless people even in peaceful countries,as it happened in Norway.Thanks for your response.
@TheGreatandMightyL (54)
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26 Jul 11
Horrible things have need done in the name of Christ, Allah, gods, demons, men, women, for love, for hate etc,
People tend to use these as excuses to do horrendous things, like someone posted here, there is not real link in what Vlad did and what this guy has done. I cant even really compare the two in terms of ideology.
I would more say that people who look up to people or events in a negative way have a predisposition to that behavior or have a warped sense of reality.
To answer your question, Churchill is a idol to English heritage but because of the french navy incident in Africa some french despise him and see it as a act of brutal murder.
I respect Churchill as he was a great wartime leader but would I do the same? with what I know about the situation and what he knew then, probably but it would be with the most guilty of consciousnesses.
A great quote is one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter
@polaris77 (2040)
• Bacau, Romania
26 Jul 11
Well,the Norwegian psycho is probably his own fighter,not for freedom but for some sick ideals which only he can justify in his crazy mind,and everyone else's terrorist.Thanks for your response.
@TheGreatandMightyL (54)
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26 Jul 11
I never meant that he was a freedom fighter for anyone - I was aiming that statement to Vlad and others of historical reference. :)
@ptower76 (1616)
• United States
25 Jul 11
Nothing really surprises me in the world in this day and age. Who can figure out the mind of someone that is insane? Just as the Christians justified their atrocities at the time of the Inquisition, other peoples have done the same as that murderer. The Muslims, the Buddist etc... This is nothing new.
@polaris77 (2040)
• Bacau, Romania
25 Jul 11
Yes,unfortunately history is full of atrocities committed in the name of religion.Thanks for your response.
