Where is the British Justice?
August 18, 2011 11:32am CST
In my prior post on British losing their spines, becoming injust Jellyfish, I was appalled by how the British 'police' (assuming you call them that) did nothing, as in absolutely nothing, while watching people burn down buildings and destroy peoples property, sometimes even being attacked by the stupid youth in Briton. I had hoped that this was isolated instance of pathetic British-ness. But today, again roaming the BBC, I found this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14564949 Quick review. A single lady goes on vacation. She comes home to find a couple living in her house, waring her clothes, drinking and eating her food and wine, and having completely trashed her entire house. Am I missing something? And they call these people squatters? These are vandals, burglars, and thieves... no, but squatters? So if I flew to London, and found an empty house, I can just break in, use all their stuff, and be called a squatter? Perhaps the word has a different meaning between countries. Here in the US, a Squatter is someone who has no home, and uses abandoned buildings. You never see them break into peoples homes because you go to prison for years for that. What does it mean there? And what exactly happened to these 'squatters'? Can someone from the more 'refined' English crowd, enlighten me to what happened to these life destroying people? The poor woman will likely never go on vacation again after going through the trauma of having everything in her life destroyed. Tell what your more 'tolerant' justice system will do to punish this behavior??
• United States
18 Aug 11
The British do not seem to have the experience with dealing with riots that other parts of the world do. I think that they are about to glean a lot of experience from this point on. As a people they do not like to admit that these things will happen in their country...Stiff upper lip and all that rot. Their society has been deteriorating for a long time and no one has been addressing the problem. They are becoming more and more like the US with a few more problems thrown in. As far as the "squatters" go...I think you can chalk that up to the fact that they have gone way to far toward socialism....
18 Aug 11
Yes, that's pretty much how it goes. If someone moves in while you're out, you will have the dickens of a time to get them out. And they do it. And if you have a field and the gypsies want it, you'd better muck spread pretty darned quick, because when they have their thieving backsides planted there, it's all goodnight Vienna. You won't be able to shift them without six months in court just to get your land back. And it gets even better, because if you are a tennant and you go on holiday, there's the new scam where the landlord rents out your home to new people and it can take a year or more to try and get it back. It's not the police, it's no good blaming them, it's the courts that put the beggars and thieves ahead of the hard-working people out here doing what they can to keep going. The courts don't want to upset anyone, they want the baddies to rule the roost! And the reason the police didn't do anything during the riots, apparently, is that they were told not to because the head honchos were afraid that it would be considered 'racial' in origin.
• United States
18 Aug 11
Seriously. I don't get it. How do you people live in a land where someone can just.... take over your home? I mean, I thought Americas Squatter policy was bad. There are only two specific ways I have heard of, where someone can be considered a 'squatter', and have some protection... (to the determinant of the person who owns the place). One, if you have a derelict house. Literally you buy a home, and desert it. Leave the state so they can't find you and ditch the house. This is where a bank doesn't own it, and there's nothing owed on it. (otherwise the bank would repo) Then if someone moves into the place without you knowing, and you show up 5 years later, and want them out, you have to go to court and work through the system, and it can take months, even a year to remove them. The second, is if you buy a house to rent. So you have the house, and you rent it. Then the renter leaves, but say... the renters girlfriend, stays. Since she isn't on the lease, you can't legally evict her because she was never on the legal lease agreement. Once again, she's considered a squatter, and you have to go to court to remove her, and it could take a year. Which if you can't afford to pay the mortgage without someone paying you rent, you'll be bankrupt on top of legal expenses. To all the Americans who might be reading this, THIS... is why you DO NOT BORROW MONEY TO BUY A RENTAL. It's a wonderful way to end up bankrupt. Do *NOT* do this. But back to England. This is unbelievable to me. Do understand what I would do to someone who just waltz into my property? I'd beat them senseless, and then shoot them with my 9mm. I suppose this makes sense to some extent. We broke away from Briton explicitly because we wanted the freedom of Life, Liberty, and Property... This you apparently still don't have. Of course we're working on losing that right, under the theory of helping the poor...
18 Aug 11
I live in UK for some time. I watched few programs about it. This is just horrible. I have no idea why the police can not do anything. They should be able to revove this people and punished them. Where is the law? Or maybe why the law allow this people to do that? I know one thing if this ever happen to me here I will not call the police. I will call my friends and remove this people by force. If you can't count on any other help according the law you have to defend yourself.