If a woman is pregnant or is with a child with a man... is that an assurance

@chiyosan (30184)
Philippines
November 5, 2011 5:43am CST
that the man will never leave you? what do you think? people, especially some women out there would or might actually get themselves pregnant with a man and that they will use the child for their benefit, to make the man not leave them oor at least stay with them for as long as they want because of the child? I know there is this person who is and who was sort of using the same argument that she is or she might be pregnant with the man and wants him to acknowledge the child if it is true that she is to bear a child. if you are a woman, and you love a man so much would you use a child, or a possible pregnancy to black mail a man into not breaking up with you? your thoughts on the same issue/topic? thank you!!
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@Mashnn (4501)
5 Nov 11
I think love become meaningful if you can wake up to see that someone you love for the rest of your life. Forcing yourself pregnant or to have a child with a man who doesn't love you is a waste of time. The man will only accept the child but will never be there for you. This adds more hurt to already miserable life.
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@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
6 Nov 11
that's well said mashnn. i like what you said when a man is forced to accept a woman for the sake of a child born to them. I can understand that a man would really be there for the child but will not be there for the woman or will most probably even do anything to stay away from her, and make her life miserable....
@Mashnn (4501)
7 Nov 11
That exactly, most women are miserably out there because of that. If he is not for you,you need to accept that he will never be. It is that simple. Life still goes on after him.
@julianmac (396)
• Malaysia
5 Nov 11
Hi chiyosan, I consider this to be an outdated weapon, but still there are women who is up to this old trick to hang on to a relationship. She just might get away with it if her alleged boyfriend is a kindhearted gentleman. Otherwise she is doomed for life if she decides to have the baby. It is still considered as a taboo for a woman to have a child out of wedlock in this part of the world. A relationship should be built on love and trust, not upon pregnancy. The feeling of love should come spontaneously and not out of obligation. This will ensure a long lasting and happy life. If a man loves a woman he should set her free. If she loves him she will come back to him and vice versa.
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@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
5 Nov 11
Very well said julianmac. =) you have a point that marriage or relationship should not be based on an obligation. Most of the time this would become a burden rather than build the relationship stronger, it would drag it down, even. I have seen a lot of couples who stick to each other because the baby is already there, only the woman suffers more because the man will eventually not want to stay anymore and will end up hurting the woman and the child by leaving them or not being responsible to care for them.
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@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
6 Nov 11
Hi chiyosan! Definitely not. I have seen a lot of cases where couples split even if they have already children. I also have seen cases where the girl gets pregnant but the guy does not take responsibility for it and leaves the girl. This is what actually happened to a few of my friends from high school. It's an unfortunate thing to happen especially when you think of the future of the baby. I could not possibly understand why people don't think of the future but I guess, when you're in love, unexpected things can happen.
@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
6 Nov 11
Oh yes, this happened to a friend of mine too when she was the third party. i do not think she did it on purpose to get herself pregnant.. but what the girl did was that kept the baby. the guy married his girlfriend and she is left with her child of this man. i think the man did not even see the girl grow up, etc. hayzzz its really hard for people to be caught up in such relationship troubles and mess! thank you secretbear for your response! have a great evening!!
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@secretbear (19448)
• Philippines
7 Nov 11
It really is complicated to be in such a relationship. I never wanna have the misfortune of being in one. It was good that your friend kept the baby.
@hexebella (1136)
• Philippines
6 Nov 11
Of course not, it would never be an assurance....but some women in the Philippines are using it to force the man who got them impregnated to marry them..they don't realize that they are just making things complicated and worse. If it happened to me and I got pregnant with the man I love, i would be thankful that i got a child from him to whom I will focus all my love and attention. It that man would marry me just because of the child I would not agree, but if he would marry me because he loves me and that i am the person he wanted to be with for the rest of his life whether with or without child, I would definitely accept.
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@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
6 Nov 11
thanks hexebella for your response. :D it is very unlikely that a guy loving a woman would leave her especially if he got her pregnant and i think that would be the best thing if they decide tto be together. But having a child is not at all the bestreason for couples to tie the knot too only to end up separated years after.
@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
5 Nov 11
No I will never do such thing. If ever I get pregnant with a man and he don't want to take responsibility of it, I will save some of my pride. And will make sure that I will find some way to raise my child. I won't even use the child to force him to stay with me.
@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
5 Nov 11
thank you for sharing your opinion on this. =) i'd say that you are right. it is never an assurance and well it should not be taken as some sort of an idea to be used to blackmail a guy and force him to stay with you. mind you though i have known someone who has and well.. i think she's lost her mind already too saying she might be pregnant knowing that the man did not even met up with her for more than a month.
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@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
5 Nov 11
I have a friend who really wants to get pregnant thinking that this guy will choose her than the girl her boyfriends' family wants him to marry, sort of like arrange marriage... poor guy he can't fight for their relationship, poor friend of mine she got pregnant and what she thought might happen that her boyfriend will fight for their relationship if she gets pregnant did not happen. In the end, she was left with a baby while the boyfriend married his parent's choice for him and also had a baby now. Though he is saying he still loves her and their baby, the fact that he cannot stand on his own fight is something that my friend should have realized in the past.
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@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
6 Nov 11
I feel sorry for your friend that she is left with a baby, i'd say she saw this coming to her.. i would refuse to think otherwise and she should not have made herself pregnant, or allow herself to be in the position like that. Its unfair for the woman that the guy married too, but then i'd say that poor girl was left with the baby on her own. I hope though that the guy is giving some sort of support, still?
• Philippines
5 Nov 11
My mom's friend thinks that this is true. She is thirty eight years old now and have five kids that have different fathers. And all of the fathers of her children are long gone now; she cannot contact them nor ask for financial support. Every time she meets a man, she always allow them to impregnate her thinking that they would love her and would stick to her. However, the opposite thing happened. They all ran from their responsibilities and totally forgot about her and their children. Now she has to raise all her children on her own. She always calls my mom, crying and asking for help. She said her life is so screwed up and she'd rather die than face all her problems alone. In my opinion, those women who do this are so desperate to get love from others. Maybe they were not so loved by their parents or have been taken advantage of a lot of people. They badly want someone to love them so they engage on these kinds of things. However, letting yourself get pregnant for them to stick with you is not the answer. In order to be loved by others, you have to learn how to love yourself. Start with that and I hope everything will follow through.
@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
5 Nov 11
wow! that is 5 children from 5 different fathers. well i think that is just about not right! imagine the kids and the trauma.. not only that, the psychological effect this can have to the children who will grow up and know that they have different fathers and that their mom is almost always making sure to just get pregnant for the sake of trying to keep a man by her side. poor woman who only brought upon more problems to herself. =(
@maximax8 (31053)
• United Kingdom
7 Nov 11
In my home country there are many single parents. If a girlfriend gets pregnant then the boyfriend might stay or go. The younger the man is the less responsible he will be generally. If a relationship is on the rocks it is not a sensible action to get pregnant. I wouldn't ever do that sort of thing. I think that if I really loved a man I would try to put the sparkle back into mine and his relationship. Early pregnancy can be quite a stressful time with emotional changes and these can test a man's patience.
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
2 Apr 12
Women are strong creatures, we don't need a man to help us raise our child. That being said, No I would not use a man for that, nor would I make a man stay if he wanted to leave because of it. Women who use men like that aren't going to keep the man, nor respect for themselves.
@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
6 Nov 11
no, it isn't. even if the man agrees to be with you and not leave, he will secretly continue pursuing other women, or the love of his life. that would be more hurting, i believe, to discover. a relationship must always have love as foundation. if it is ridden with lies, then it will thrive on lies, and eventually will not succeed. nobody would want a superficial relationship, i bet.
@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
6 Nov 11
thanks bingskee for your response. we cannot always hold a man can we? haha moreso if we try to scare them with pregnancy or some other threatening stuffs. i would really say that we ought to be strong and just think of ourselves more if a man decides to leve then let him go. i will keep my pride with me and not beg him to not leave me or i will not resort to do things like this!
• Philippines
5 Nov 11
I don't think it can be used as assurance. It depends on the man, if he is willing to marry the woman. Guys now a days cannot be easily blackmailed. I don't think will stoop down to that level I will get myself impregnated and assuming to get the man I love whom I know doesn't or will not love me in return. I will just suffer in the long run if will result to that scheme. Not only me but my child as well. I think it's not love, it's actually obsession, because if you really love someone and you know that person love another person you should be willing to sacrifice and let go.
@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
5 Nov 11
Wow, that is actually what i think it was. an obsession on the woman's part. i think the person did love but then it got out of hand because her reasoning is already failing her and causing her to do such things and think of doing such just so she can get the man to stick around with her.
• India
5 Nov 11
helo friend , it's not like that the man will never leave you by blackmailing showing the child from from him. If he goes to that worst state to leave a woman with pregnancy, then he can do any dam thing , to get rid off her by showing many excuses.
@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
5 Nov 11
oh yes, that is right. a man can even deny that the child is his just to get off the hook. but its just sad that some women will resort to this drama just so they can get what they want.
• Philippines
6 Nov 11
I don't think that's an assurance that the man will not leave you. I don't think that's right. The woman should not use the baby as a reason to let the man not break up with you. If the guy leaves, then let him. You might think you need him but he doesn't deserve the baby.
@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
6 Nov 11
=) girl power. i wish we all woman would think of it this way. we do not need the man to raise a child. it would not be different to have him around and he is useless and to not have him around, right? :D
• Philippines
8 Nov 11
Exactly. We can stand without them and live without them. For sure, we can raise our child without them standing by our side. If the guy doesn't want to own the baby, then don't push it. Let him just leave. :)
@bubuth (1815)
• Philippines
25 Mar 12
I think using a child as a alibi is a bad thing to do because a child is a precious gift of God for us. But i also hear lot of story that a woman is using a child so their partner will not leave them and i think some guy are still leaving their partner because some of them say that they will just give some financial support for the child or they think that the child is not real child..
@Aja103654 (5646)
• Philippines
6 Nov 11
that's stupid, i think. It's never and assurance. In fact, there have been many cases of single moms lately. My cousin is one of them. it's never right to use a child that way. Children should be made out of love not selfishness. That kind of action is selfishness, and the one to get hurt by it the most is the child esp. if the dad does not want to be dad in the first place or is just forced to be with the woman. As a woman, i'd rather have a man who would willingly go to me than blackmail him to stay with me. blackmails are never good.
@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
6 Nov 11
well yes, of course that is correct. when i was chatting with this woman who told me she might be pregnant with this man who is staying away from her, i asked her when was the last time and is she sure, she said she is not sure but she just wanted to let the guy know she might be pregnant so he would at least talk to her. its so desperate!