Is free will and pre destination contradictory of each other?

@riempie9 (1026)
South Africa
May 22, 2012 7:05am CST
This is a subject I have always been interested in. Philosophers of all ages have grappled with it. If God has given you free will, how can there also be pre destination? God has given us free will and we can make our own choices, but if we have free will how can there also be pre destination where things are written in stone?
5 responses
@urbandekay (18312)
22 May 12
No, look at it this way, a man is free to make a choice between live options: I mean he cannot choose to make a square circle but he can choose to go to the shops or not, for instance. For God, existing outside time, all moments of time are known and equally and concurrently present (Incidentally, the same perspective is available to any photon of light, though its perspective is limited to its travel) thus to God, all is known, since any moment is present to God. So, God does not predestine man's choices but is aware of them in the moment they are made and all of them, of every man, all present concurrently all the best urban
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@iuliuxd (4453)
• Romania
22 May 12
Where did you read about predestination ?
@riempie9 (1026)
• South Africa
23 May 12
I can't remember all the books I get information on but the internet is a good place to start and you will find a lot of info. The above question is just what I am always going to be interested in. I have received some good answers, but want to know more.
@iuliuxd (4453)
• Romania
23 May 12
But you can`t blame God for what you find written on internet.I believe Urban`s answer is a good answer for how it works.There isn`t any predestination if you have free will.
@visijay32 (447)
• Philippines
22 May 12
Yes, God gave us free will; however, He never predestined the fates of men for he cannot read the hearts or desires of men. There is this case in the Bible where the people resulted to human sacrifice. Jeremiah 7:31 "And they have built the high places of Topheth which is in the valley of the Son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my heart."
@riempie9 (1026)
• South Africa
22 May 12
Well, that indeed tells a different story. I wish I knew which quotes from books are reliable and which are not. Thanks Visijay.
@alutka (211)
22 May 12
we got free will, we can make choices and we do it, but unfortunately the case with our choices are not najlepsze.Ale again we have a choice, we can either fix it or go on the wrong dalej.Niestety problem is that people continue with the free will duly kozystac, will do what the majority, use ready-made solutions, than to invent something yourself.
@alutka (211)
22 May 12
we got free will, we can make choices and we do it, but unfortunately the case with our choices are not najlepsze.Ale again we have a choice, we can either fix it or go on the wrong dalej.Niestety problem is that people continue with the free will duly kozystac, will do what the majority, use ready-made solutions, than to invent something yourself.