Can You Forgive if You Still Remember?

Philippines
September 24, 2012 11:41pm CST
Yeah I want you to interpret and answer this question... and please take this scenario: Break up, after a girl found out that his boy is cheating with her... for some reason they can't fix it. The girl want to live happily after that, because the hatred is on her heart, thwarted her to be happy. All she need is forgive... to let go, but how can she if she still remember? If all those memories linger in her mind? Well, experts it's your turn here... share and give your advice!
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@chrystalia (1208)
• Tucson, Arizona
26 Sep 12
Once a cheater, quite often a cheater again... when it comes to forgiving and forgetting, while you never truly forget, as someone else pointed out you let go of the anger, pain and betrayal-- and if you're smart, you let go of that person as well. You can forgive almost anything, and you can let go of anger, pain and other negative feelings-- but to continue in a relationship with someone who has proven themselves to be fundamentally untrustworthy and disrespectful is foolish. There are plenty of decent people in the world who believe in treating their partner with respect and being honest-- why waste time with one that doesn't?
• Philippines
26 Sep 12
Very good realization here guys! Well, one should be smart not to stuck with the pain!
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• Philippines
26 Sep 12
"...and if you're smart, you let go of that person as well. You can forgive almost anything, and you can let go of anger, pain and other negative feelings-- but to continue in a relationship with someone who has proven themselves to be fundamentally untrustworthy and disrespectful is foolish." Very well said, chrystalia.
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@jaiho2009 (39142)
• Philippines
25 Sep 12
hello bro, Forgiving doesn't always mean forgetting. There is no way to forget a painful experience that hurt the person so badly. Remembering doesn't also mean he/she haven't forgiven the person who caused his/her pain. Remembering the situation is to remind him/her not to commit the same mistake again. Remembering the experience or the person doesn't also mean that he/she was not able to moved one. From my own experience, I was cheated/betrayed. I have forgiven my ex, but it doesn't mean I have forgotten what he did. There are times that I cannot avoid remembering what he did and relate it to other people who faced same situation- to make the person understand. What matters most is the inner peace. I am happy with my life, I have peace of mind. I can face the world and tell my story without pain because there is no hatred inside of me.
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• Philippines
26 Sep 12
Let me quote this Big Sister : [b]"I can face the world and tell my story without pain because there is no hatred inside of me." another candidate for my BR! [/b] I am so glad to hear that from you, yeah, personally I want to asked apology for your past, sorry if we guys are not faithful sometimes, but remember, we are not numb, sometimes there are situations that are also not meant to be done.
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• Philippines
26 Sep 12
Yeah, I hope you are considerate enough for that Sis... sometimes you love each other but you know you could not be together happily, somehow your move to get away means cheating... well that is sad.
@jaiho2009 (39142)
• Philippines
26 Sep 12
I know what you mean, thu, there is no reason to justify a mistake done.
• United States
25 Sep 12
I can never forgive Without a proper apology given right away Or the proper revenge. " For some reason they can't fix it."? No , he ruined it! The best way for her to have that happily ever after is to go home and pack a bag and leave. Never speak to him ever again.Anything else that needs to be done maybe against the law! The main thing is to Never be with this cheater and to find a good man. The best way to do that is to know her worth and find a guy who can appreciate her. That is where the happily ever after lies.
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• United States
27 Sep 12
Am I?
• Philippines
27 Sep 12
According to your words... yeah... but when you gush... not at all....
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• Philippines
26 Sep 12
Wow, this is a candidate for the BR my friend! You are tough huh??
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
25 Sep 12
After any breakup it's hard, but after a break up because of cheating it's even harder. The one who was cheated on begins to have all these emotions and second guessing themselves etc. The only thing the girl can do is go through the emotions and know that she is much better then the one who cheated her. Afterall she is now free and can do as she pleases, no restraints because of a relationship. Of course all of this is much easier said then it is done. The only thing I could do to advise a person in this situation is to listen to music, to write out their emotions and to face the problem if they can. If they can they should face the one who broke their heart and let them know how it made them feel. Even if they never send a letter, hit the enter button to let the IM go through, or call or text, they should write out their feelings as if they are telling the one who hurt them.
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• Philippines
26 Sep 12
Hello my friend how are you? Anyway, that what we called here "Crying out Loud" but there is also a song that says "Don't cry out loud" but anyway, whichever is applicable. Thank you for sharing that - maybe it can be done tru "writing out the emotions"... it's about getting rid of it... Have a nice day my friend!
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• Philippines
27 Sep 12
I am fine my friend, well, I can still remember our discussion about the "dream house" haven't you? Writing out emotions, well, I am as well had done that before regarding my office mate...
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
26 Sep 12
I am well and how are you? It's been quite some time since you've been active here on mylot. Yes writing them out is much better, and it avoids "crying out loud" as well.
@joliefille (3690)
• Philippines
26 Sep 12
Well this kind of situation is still somewhat a recent memory for me. Boy broke up with girl because of long distance relationship, girl keeps visiting him in his country, boy agrees that they would only be in a relationship if she visits him and that they are physically together. 3 months after their breakup, boy finds out he likes me because we share a lot of the spiritual stuff and many other things. After 5 months, I was all set and had ticket ready to go on a vacation to his place. Suddenly ex-gf sends a text message to boy to tell him she would visit him again, she says she will go with her mom as the latter has a job interview and girl will try to go to school in the boy's country. Turns out girl keeps changing her mind as the original intention of the girl is to give their relationship another try. Boy's dilemma is he couldn't tell her about me, he wants to see me first before he sees the ex-gf. BS, isn't it? After I see him for 2 weeks, I move to another area in the city to explore more places and mainly because girl already arrived. For 2 weeks girl was so disillusioned he was a good boyfriend. I eventually spilled the beans about his cheating, I wrote a message to her. She replied to me saying she wished I had told her sooner and that it sucks that she would be raising her child - his first born - on her own. I did not know she was pregnant, I had even suspected I could be pregnant but luckily I wasn't. Boy gets mad at me for telling her the truth - the truth he had no balls to admit to her, I haven't talked to him for 6 months. Now girl is 8 months pregnant and still single. Messy, isn't it? Lol. I still remember a lot and every time I remember I just pray for the person who had played me and that girl.
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• Philippines
26 Sep 12
Thanks for sharing your own experience my friend, if I am the boy I might have chosen the one I have a coming child, sorry for that, but in the end, the heart will choose who... yeah, it's a kind of messy and complicated...
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• Philippines
26 Sep 12
But what if he both got us pregnant? Hahahha. It's a funny yet scary thing to think about. I am glad I got out of that mess.
@obe212003 (2299)
• Philippines
26 Sep 12
Based on your scenario, I guess the best remedy is to preoccupy her mind with something of interest, so the memory that lingers would diminish in time. Erasing such memories is quite hard, and it should come from within, i guess she has to believe that life goes on and change has to be caused by self motivation.
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• Philippines
26 Sep 12
Another BR candidate my friend, let me quote this :"I guess the best remedy is to preoccupy her mind with something of interest, so the memory that lingers would diminish in time." The saying must be true "time heals"!
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• Philippines
26 Sep 12
Great idea mate! You are really expert yeah know! it's about taking your mind somewhere that will make you busy all the time, that way you thought is diverted to something.
@obe212003 (2299)
• Philippines
26 Sep 12
It is some sort of diversion which causes the mind to focus on something else that would surely make her forget the problem at hand. If interest is buildup taking up much attention and focus, the surely the bad memory would diminish in time, and if she continues on that thing that interest her, then surely there would be no time to remember the bad memories, lol!
@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
25 Sep 12
i have been cheated on by my last boyfriend. he was the first person to have ever done that to me, and i hope he is the last and i never get to feel that worst feeling ever again. It took me a lot of days, and months to be able to forgive him, and find that one thing in me that would give him that. I think i have forgiven the person... but i can not forget the whole thing. i coped up with the whole thing but still am disturbed at some thoughts of another woman, or cheating, or anything related to unfaithfulness. So right now, i forgave the person but could not forget the things that was done to me so we'd never be able to fix it already - not anymore and we might as well just stay friends or be enemies.
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• Philippines
26 Sep 12
Thank you for sharing that, and I am sorry to hear that too... as much as possible I want to be faithful, but it's not a guarantee, am only a human being... but this time I will do my best... The only way to live happily and peacefully is to cast out hatred from ones heart!
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• Philippines
26 Sep 12
We shoukld forgive and forget. If we still want them to give them another chance that means what they've done is already forgiven and we should move on. It was already over so thinking about it all the time is just a bad thing for the relationship. We have to learn to trust that person again. If we can't then we should let them go. The relationship won't have any good future anymore. Happy mylotting.
• Philippines
26 Sep 12
Thanks for sharing that my friend, yeah if it's not working, let it go... Happy myLotting too!
@trisha27 (3494)
• United States
26 Sep 12
Yes I think that it is possible to forgive but still remember. I mean there is the saying you can forgive, but never forget. Forgiveness is something that can help the other move on from what has happened to them. But you always have that memory in the back of your mind of what that person has done wrong to them.
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• Philippines
26 Sep 12
Are that scars? Yes, scars won't be erased, not unless they used some technology to get rid of it, but to only live in peace is to cast away hatred... in short one should forgive to live happily!
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• Philippines
26 Sep 12
Scars and memories won't be erased. Hmm. Kinda like that movie Eternal Sunshine of The Spotless Mind.
@sender621 (14894)
• United States
26 Sep 12
You will remember the regrettable things in your life as well as the joys of your life. Forgiveness is a oart of the healing process that we go through in life. Just because we can remember does not mean that we can't forgive.
• Philippines
26 Sep 12
Thanks, straight and to the point!
• Philippines
26 Sep 12
You can always forgive but not forget:-)
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• Philippines
26 Sep 12
True - I won't agree with that mate!
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@aejey322 (1004)
• Philippines
25 Sep 12
Firstly, I am not an expert but allow me to share my thoughts. Since human beings are born with a brain that captures memories, it is normal for us not to forget and unfortunately even the bad memories. And you are right, bad memories make our life miserable, thus unable to make us happy. And again you are right that to make her life normal again, she needs to forgive. Forgiving is entirely different from forgetting. One can never forget, but one can definitely regret and simply accept that it happened. When you learn to accept it, you will also learn to detach hatred from your heart. And since you have unloaded some heavy but useless baggages, then you will feel light and learn to be happy again.
• Philippines
26 Sep 12
Please allow me to quote this : "When you learn to accept it, you will also learn to detach hatred from your heart." So I might change my views as well, let me think it again - one can forgive even if he/she still remember, well, yeah... it could be.
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@aejey322 (1004)
• Philippines
27 Sep 12
it looks like you're still doubtful about it. let me say it this way... as what i had implied, forgiving is also accepting. so once you accepted that it unfortunately happened, it can also mean that you are ready to forgive the one who caused you hurt. she may possibly remember it all her life, and we all do. but we have the choice to ignore it just simply label it as "past". and one important thing also is to learn out of it. make the incident constructive to your life rather than making yourself down. in this way, you even can be thankful to the person who have hurt you because it made you become a better and stronger person.
@kokomo (1867)
• Philippines
25 Sep 12
I already experience that kind of situation. I thought majority of us can relate on this.Well,there are lot of ways on how she can forget. First, she just need to think the bad things about the guy from his physical appearance, his bad attitudes and to his bad habits. Think all about his turn offs, there, you will realize, he is not that valuable to keep.Next thing to do is to go out with friends,in that way she will not get use to think a lot about her heartaches with the guy because her attention is already on her friends. I think that two advice are effective.;-)
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• Philippines
26 Sep 12
I hope that advice if effective my friend! Thank you for sharing... we guys also have experiences like that, not all the time we cheat... peace be with you...
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@ksd543 (2)
26 Sep 12
I am not expert on this matter, but, you have to forget in order to forgive. As long as you keep on remembering all those things which had brought you pain, you would always keep remembering the hurt, betrayal, and all the feelings that goes with it. I guess I would say just forget all about it, move on with your life. Leave the past behind. Easier said than done, but as they say, time heals all wounds. Learn to forget.
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• Philippines
26 Sep 12
"easier said than done" I guess all things are like that, the "theoretical aspect" is always easier than it's application!
@marguicha (215476)
• Chile
25 Sep 12
I don´t understand. Did she break up or not with the boy? If he did, I would not accept him again, but she can be happy with someone else. She doesn´t have to do anything. She will forget him when she finds someone else a lot better.
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• Philippines
25 Sep 12
I guess they are broke up sometime from now my friend... so she can better forget if she will find someone a lot better? That's good!
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• China
26 Sep 12
I just on question:Have this boy and girl still love each other? If the answer is yes,I think this girl should forgive the boy,in my mind,I think lover will apart only for one reason,and that is"they do not love each other enough".
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• Philippines
26 Sep 12
I don't know. I don't know about that part mate!
• India
25 Sep 12
Hey,as time passes we slowly forgets what happened.its so normal.if God hadnot given this we could go insane by remembering everything.although she remember that the boy ditched her but as time will pass it will be easy her to forgive.just let time pass and the wound will heal.and she will be able to forgive.have a good day.
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• Philippines
25 Sep 12
Thanks for that, yes time heals...
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@babyeve (1048)
• Seychelles
25 Sep 12
Nope, if you are still remembering it, you have not forgive. If you say you have forgiven someone and thus you are still reminiscing about what happened, then you must realised that you have not been able to forgive that person completely. However, you must bear in mind that forgiveness take time and one should never be in a rush to do it. Better take your time and do it fully rather than doing it partially. With God everything is possible although it might take a while to really see the logic behind it.
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• Philippines
26 Sep 12
Thank you for that - truly "Time heals"...
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@lynnes75 (443)
• Malaysia
26 Sep 12
It doesn't have to be about a bad break-up; it can be many other scenarios as well, where bottom line, you end up hurt, sad, disappointed, and maybe vengeful a little bit. If we're honest with ourselves, these are the automatic human responses to such situations, especially where you're the 'victim'. Some might even say, it's natural. But I also believe that if we (or this girl) want to move on and be happy, then we have to forgive. In my definition, forgiveness means letting go of the anger, hatred, vengeful,harmful and other negative emotions inside you. It would be good if you can forget, but I don't believe forgiveness has anything to do with forgetting. I hope this helps :)
• Philippines
26 Sep 12
Thanks for that my friend, let me quote this: "In my definition, forgiveness means letting go of the anger, hatred, vengeful,harmful and other negative emotions inside you." Let me add, sometimes, not only 1 is the victim, sometimes both... I don't believe that the hurt feeling can be experienced on one side only... sometimes, even if it hurts, we need to break up... sometimes it appear to be cheating on the part of the girl, but it's not... it's just needed.
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• Philippines
27 Sep 12
Thank you for that my friend, honestly it's not that easy, specially if you have been together, or if not together, been lovers for years... it's hard to break up... but thank you for that advice and suggestion.
@lynnes75 (443)
• Malaysia
27 Sep 12
I agree. The hurt feelings can be on both sides, even though not necessarily for the same reasons. But ultimately, even if the break-up remain by mutual agreement, still both sides need to forgive in order to move on without any baggage attached; this would make up for a bad foundation for any future new relationship. I have experience in this, without going too much into it. I chose to forgive, I still remember and it hurts less with each day, but I am able to fully enjoy my current relationship. I'm even friends with my ex. So if this is what you're experiencing right now, than I hope you can do the same :)
@Janurmas (642)
• Indonesia
23 Jan 13
Yes. I can forgive someone even though someone has done a mistake for me. There is no benefit for us to hate someone.
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