Two grave crimes - only one punishment?

@vandana7 (98827)
India
January 6, 2013 5:46am CST
This is an inspired discussion. For example...there is rape and there is death of the raped person. Both are separate categories of crimes. Each with their own set of defined punishment. Now, if the person commits more serious crime of the two crimes, then he does not get punished for the other crime, simply because it is not humanly feasible. Effectively, we condone the other crime, notwithstanding that it was also a grave crime. Have you ever thought about it?
4 responses
• United States
7 Jan 13
Are you referring to that 16th December Delhi Gang rape case? I kept updates of all that happened. Most of the Americans did. Well, in the court, all the crimes (rape, beating and murder) will be taken into consideration through different sections. None of them should be dropped. They are simply not trivial.
@vandana7 (98827)
• India
8 Jan 13
Yes. All murderers get the same punishment. In fact there are movies in which there is dialogue...one murder or ten murders, the punishment is the same...so you can imagine. Second thing...this case..it was planned preplanned...so yes...it is intentional manslaughter.. The girl is not politically connected. Nor does she or her family have any vendetta or enemies ...this was mere accident that she boarded that bus on that night...and then they put their plan into action. Contempt for mother, sister, wife, sister in law or other women is the root cause for such brutality. I would definitely like to check their background and learn from this case what made them hate their ladies so much.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
7 Jan 13
Over here the person would get convicted of both crimes, and the sentence would take both of them into consideration.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
7 Jan 13
That makes it essentially the equivalent of a life sentence. I've seen situations here where somebody committed multiple crimes, and were given multiple sentences of 30 years back to back, adding up to hundreds of years. Practically it's kind of absurd. But I suppose it's intended to send a message.
@vandana7 (98827)
• India
7 Jan 13
Yeah..life sentence is absurd...rigorous punishment for a person who is 60 plus is absurd..it is that absurdity I am talking about. :)
@vandana7 (98827)
• India
7 Jan 13
Yeah but at times the sentence means longer period in the prison. Imagine a person who commits a crime at the age of say 53. Then she is sentenced to 30 years imprisonment for one crime, and 30 years imprisonment for another crime...is she gonna live that long? Even otherwise, by the time she is 83, that punishment cannot mean much, would it? Something is wrong with what we call punishment then..
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@Danzylop (1120)
• Philippines
6 Jan 13
Well in the Philippines, when the original offense constituted creates another offense as a result of the first, the acts of the second offense will add weight to the first offense in terms of punishment we call the case, Rape with Homicide, and in cases when the act can proven to have been premeditated, it can be brought to a higher level cases called "Murder with Rape". But if you are in the Philippines, the punishment that can be added will have no effect. Why? Because rape is already equal to life sentence in prison how far would you want to keep the criminal? My other thought for this is that when there is another or additional punishment other than life sentence, presidential pardon will become impossible even if the criminal behaves as if he changed.
@vandana7 (98827)
• India
6 Jan 13
Presidential pardon becoming impossible, and someother things as well...
• India
6 Jan 13
Hi friend, your anger is right. But we are not sure about the single punishment too We know about the law and order in our country which is having a lot of loop holes and the criminals have the ability to escape from their crime using it. Hope the girl's soul will RIP and the criminals will get punishment for their sin