Gardeners: How does soil quality affect the taste of your veggies?

@TheHorse (207003)
Walnut Creek, California
May 3, 2016 11:01am CST
We finally experienced our first ever harvest out at Ground Squirrel Gardens, at work in Concord CA. I was able to grab a couple of snow peas from the lone snow pea plant climbing the fence at our garden next to the parking lot. Both tasted bitter and not very appealing, unlike the snow peas I've grown in Oakland, Berkeley, and on my balcony here in Pleasant Hill. My hunch is that the difference is in the quality of the soil. Although I use Miracle Gro garden soil for the starts at Ground Squirrel Gardens, much of the surrounding soil is strewn with old car parts, batteries, electronics parts, empty alcohol bottles, and so forth. It's not very wholesome. The soil in Oakland, Berkeley and on my balcony has been much better, and the taste of the veggies yielded has been much better. If my kid clients and I do manage to grow squash, corn, green beans and sun flowers out there at Ground Squirrel gardens, I think it will be more for the educational than culinary value. Any thoughts?
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@DianneN (247219)
• United States
3 May 16
Oh, yuck! Just seeing the car on the street makes me think of fumes, too, entering the plants. I wouldn't grow anything there.
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@TheHorse (207003)
• Walnut Creek, California
3 May 16
It's more or less for "proof of concept." I want to teach these kids self-reliance, even if we never actually eat what we grow. I also send them home with little starts and have them take care of "crops" at their houses. I buy medium-sized planters at the Dollar Store, and good soil at Home Depot. The organization I work for compensates me for most of what I buy for the kids. My Friday kid has some tasty snow peas on his balcony at home right now.
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@TheHorse (207003)
• Walnut Creek, California
3 May 16
@DianneN I'd really like to see gardening be a art of the curriculum at all schools at all grade levels. I know it's not entirely practical, but I think it teach so many good things.
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@DianneN (247219)
• United States
3 May 16
@TheHorse That's great!
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@jahunt (1380)
• United States
3 May 16
It makes sense that the quality of the soil would affect the taste since this is how the plant gets it nutrients. I am afraid to grow anything in my own back yard for fears of poisoning myself. Lol.
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@TheHorse (207003)
• Walnut Creek, California
3 May 16
I survived eating that one snow pea. The other I tossed back onto the ground after a nibble. I still hope our garden "works," but I think the soil there is too tainted for things to taste really good.
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@jahunt (1380)
• United States
3 May 16
@TheHorse Aww, that's a shame. I have to grow tomatoes in pots because I don't trust the soil in my back yard.
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@TheHorse (207003)
• Walnut Creek, California
3 May 16
@jahunt As I mention in my comment to @DianneN, I also send starts home with the kids I work with. So hopefully they'll get to "harvest" at home. I have some tomato seeds planted on my balcony. They haven't come up yet, though.
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@Marcyaz (35316)
• United States
3 May 16
It does not sound like a good place to grow vegetables. Growing veggies is good for children to learn and will help them in the future.
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@Marcyaz (35316)
• United States
3 May 16
@TheHorse Even if their parents know nothing about gardening the children will show them how and what to do.
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@TheHorse (207003)
• Walnut Creek, California
3 May 16
@Marcyaz Good point! Mom! The Horse showed me that seeds are only about a dollar a bag and potting soil is only about $6 a bag. Can we go to Home Depot? Pleeeeease?
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@TheHorse (207003)
• Walnut Creek, California
3 May 16
I agree. Hopefully, helping at Ground Squirrel Gardens will help teach them the skills, and some of what they grow at home will bear fruit. I send them home with quality potting soil.
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• United States
4 May 16
Good soil, good sun, good water, good bug control equals good tasting veggies. We have rough soil here in TN - it's red clay hard as a rock and if you put in a bunch of good ol'fashioned cow manure it helps.
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• United States
4 May 16
@TheHorse Horse poop no good for gardens, just cow poop.
@TheHorse (207003)
• Walnut Creek, California
4 May 16
I think we have a lot of clay in our soil too. I should harvest some horse poop from the horse place.
@nanette64 (20364)
• Fairfield, Texas
4 May 16
Definitely all that 'other' stuff is ruining the soil @Thehorse . The chemicals from those things are leaching into the soil; particularly when it rains. When I had the organic farm, we used strictly soil from the compost pile.
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@TheHorse (207003)
• Walnut Creek, California
4 May 16
That sounds like a good way to go. Did the veggies taste really good?
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@nanette64 (20364)
• Fairfield, Texas
5 May 16
@TheHorse Absolutely. Just like in the old days.
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• United States
3 May 16
I lived in South Africa for two years. The taste of the veggies there was far superior to anything I ever ate in the U.S. I believe that is because their soil has not been deleted of nutrients or adulterated by chemicals. Just sayin'.
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@TheHorse (207003)
• Walnut Creek, California
3 May 16
Could be. I was surprised by how good hour corn tasted in nasty ol' Oakland!
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• United States
4 May 16
@TheHorse Great looking kids!!!! The corn's not bad either.
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@TheHorse (207003)
• Walnut Creek, California
4 May 16
@ElizabethWallace We had it going on! Those were some wonderful kids to work with.
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@allknowing (130233)
• India
4 May 16
Nutrients decide the quality of vegetables. So if there is shortage in the soil one needs to enrich it with nutrients which I see you are doing.
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@TheHorse (207003)
• Walnut Creek, California
4 May 16
But the snow peas by the fence didn't get the benefit of the better soil I've been using for the starts.
@STOUTjodee (3572)
• United States
3 May 16
It would only make sense, I mean a person lives in a good environment (positive) we reap positive things. So I'm sure if you're growing something in "toxic" dirt, it won't taste good!! IMO
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@TheHorse (207003)
• Walnut Creek, California
4 May 16
We'll see if it similarly affects the corn, squash, and green beans...if they ever get that far.
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@jstory07 (134752)
• Roseburg, Oregon
3 May 16
I hope you are able to grew lots of good vegetables.
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@TheHorse (207003)
• Walnut Creek, California
3 May 16
Even if we do (out at Ground Squirrel Gardens), I'm not sure we'll eat them.
@Jessicalynnt (50525)
• Centralia, Missouri
3 May 16
maybe a spot for pots to garden? or is there a community garden in the area one could take the kids too?
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• Centralia, Missouri
3 May 16
@TheHorse I wish there was one here, I'd love to help and get a bit from it now and then
@TheHorse (207003)
• Walnut Creek, California
3 May 16
I've looked around and haven;t seen any community gardens near where I work. However, there is one near where one of my kid clients lives.
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• United States
3 May 16
oh dear, all those toxins deep'n the soil - not a good thingy't all :( soil quality's most important 'n that which's that sorta garbage leeched into't aint ticklin' my taste buds. t'would be interestin' if'n ya could take yer veggies to'n independent lab 'n 've 'em tested. 'r jest the soil fer that matter.
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@TheHorse (207003)
• Walnut Creek, California
3 May 16
I shudder to think what they'd find.
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@JudyEv (326431)
• Rockingham, Australia
4 May 16
I'm sure you're right. There is probably all sorts of undesirable minerals in the soil there. It would be interesting to have it - or a snow pea - analysed. Don't know a friendly analyst do you? :)
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@TheHorse (207003)
• Walnut Creek, California
4 May 16
I wish I did. There's a big snow pea hanging right now, and I'm not going to touch it.
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@JudyEv (326431)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 May 16
@TheHorse It makes you wonder, if the soil is only a little bit contaminated, if the produce is too but not enough to have a distinctive taste.
@Lucky15 (37346)
• Philippines
4 May 16
Like...not ideal to grow veggies in there
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@TheHorse (207003)
• Walnut Creek, California
4 May 16
Now I'm just doing it to see if I can outsmart the ground squirrels.
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• United States
3 May 16
I'm sad to hear that the soil in my hometown of Concord is not good. Back when I lived there, growing up, our neighbors all had wonderful large vegetable gardens with delicious produce (my parents did not have a green thumb but we did have an apricot tree that was loaded and had to be propped up every year and they were sweet and delicious) We also had a peach tree, an apple tree, and an English walnut tree. Since that was back in the 50's and 60's ( I moved away in 1972) a lot can happen. But it makes me feel sad.
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@TheHorse (207003)
• Walnut Creek, California
4 May 16
I wouldn't feel bad. I still see pretty things growing all over Concord. My wok happens to be in "hobo alley." There is garbage all over the place. The soil there is not particularly bad. We had lovely corn and sunflowers last year until the drought-starved ground squirrels ate everything. But the soil is also contaminated by the garbage that's been there, partially obscured by weeds, for years.