A Little Piece of England in France

@JudyEv (325761)
Rockingham, Australia
June 12, 2016 9:10am CST
In August 2015 we were travelling through France in our motor-home. We were heading for Pozieres and Villiers-Bretonneux, visiting war sites and cemeteries. We came across a small cemetery dedicated to fallen members of the 8th and 9th battalions of the Devonshire Regiment. In early July, the regiment was engaged in battle with the Germans at Mansel Copse and suffered great losses. On 4th July, 160 officers and men were buried in the same trench they had held against atrocious odds. The area is now a neat and ordered cemetery. French workers were mowing the grass and weeding the gravesites when we chanced upon it quite by accident. Among the plaques is one, part of which reads 'The Devonshires held this trench. The Devonshires hold it still'. As we so often did, we saw more gravestones reading 'A soldier of the Great War' or 'Known only to God'. It made me very sad to think that some of the men buried there were nameless. Because of the poppies and wreaths, we assumed that there had recently been commemoration services at the site. Throughout this area, we were impressed with the high standard of care shown to the cemeteries.
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@topffer (42156)
• France
12 Jun 16
Usually foreign military graveyards of the 2 world wars in France are maintained by their respective countries and the ground has been given to these countries : UK, USA, Germany, etc. The state continues to maintain in France the military graveyards of the countries who decided to abandon them in the past (mainly countries previously under USSR influence : Russia, Poland, Romania, etc).
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• United States
12 Jun 16
what a pity those countries don't tend to their own. but, i'm so glad that the french continue to honor those who fought'n lost.
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@topffer (42156)
• France
12 Jun 16
@crazyhorseladycx After their 1917 revolution, Russia withdrew from war, but I never understood why they refused to honor their soldiers killed during WWI. A law has decided that these graves will be maintained by France for perpetuity. Russians have changed their mind since, have opened their military archives to searchers, and I think that they will be present in 2018 for the 100th anniversary of the end of WWI.
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• United States
12 Jun 16
@topffer jest puzzlin' why they'd turn their backs'n their fellow countrymen :( who'd gone to battle 'nder their flag. i admire the french fer their attendin' to those bodies that remain. with the way schtuff's goin' now'n russia, i aint so certain i'd be welcomin' 'em with open arms...some schtuff's jest not fergivable.
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@PainsOnSlate (21854)
• Canada
12 Jun 16
Very touching discovery. I am sad when I see a gravestone for someone unknown. That trench gives me goosebumps.
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@JudyEv (325761)
• Rockingham, Australia
13 Jun 16
It was a sobering experience. Each time we left such a site we'd be silent for ages it seemed, lost in our own thoughts.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
12 Jun 16
That's very moving about the Devonshires - 'they hold it still'.
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@JudyEv (325761)
• Rockingham, Australia
13 Jun 16
It is a nice epitaph. They are virtually buried in the trench they were holding.
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@amadeo (111948)
• United States
12 Jun 16
The city of Boston,MA has a great one there.Civil war veterans .Interesting cemetery. This is visit from many people all over
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@JudyEv (325761)
• Rockingham, Australia
13 Jun 16
I think it is important for those of us alive today to pay our respects to those who gave their lives for their countries.
@gudheart (12659)
12 Jun 16
That is lovely that it is been looked after properly. Way too often the opposite occurs.
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@JudyEv (325761)
• Rockingham, Australia
13 Jun 16
All the war cemeteries we saw were well looked after. So were civilian cemeteries. In Australia that is no always the case.
@MarymargII (12422)
• Toronto, Ontario
14 Jun 16
So wonderful to see respect like this- just curious- how did you get to Europe with your motor home from Australia?
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@JudyEv (325761)
• Rockingham, Australia
14 Jun 16
We bought a smaller motor-home in Ireland where our son lives and put it on the ferry to Europe. We couldn't afford B&Bs or hotels and motor-homes are expensive to hire. It worked for us. We hope to go back next year for a while then we expect to sell the motor-home for hopefully nearly as much as we paid for it.
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@JudyEv (325761)
• Rockingham, Australia
15 Jun 16
@MarymargII Once we started looking into it the motor-home wasn't as expensive as we thought it might have been. We were very lucky to have enough funds to do this - but we have worked hard for many years too. :)
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@MarymargII (12422)
• Toronto, Ontario
14 Jun 16
@JudyEv I see- that makes perfect sense Judy! And a great idea. We would love to own a motor home to travel in for a short period of time- that would be terrific!
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• Preston, England
13 Jun 16
I have seen some European war cemeteries - they are always kept beautifully
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• Preston, England
13 Jun 16
@JudyEv same here as there were no land battles here during the World Wars
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@JudyEv (325761)
• Rockingham, Australia
13 Jun 16
We were very impressed with them. We have war memorials in almost every town in Australia, no matter how small, and most of them are kept immaculate. But of course there are no war cemeteries.
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@JudyEv (325761)
• Rockingham, Australia
14 Jun 16
@arthurchappell That's true! I hadn't thought of that.
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@ida123 (6206)
• Cagayan De Oro, Philippines
20 Jun 16
A very neat and well maintained cemetery for the heroes.
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@JudyEv (325761)
• Rockingham, Australia
20 Jun 16
All the cemeteries we saw in Europe were very well maintained.
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@Inlemay (17714)
• South Africa
14 Jun 16
we visited Colmar - so any graves were marked "inconnue" unknown in French
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@Inlemay (17714)
• South Africa
14 Jun 16
@JudyEv My feelings as well - I was heartbroken at this one graveyard, which was not the largest - so many lives given because of a ruthless dictator.
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@JudyEv (325761)
• Rockingham, Australia
14 Jun 16
It was so sad to see so many 'unknown' graves. Very sobering.
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@DianneN (246849)
• United States
15 Jun 16
That is good to hear, especially for the poor, unidentifiable soldiers.
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• United States
12 Jun 16
I never think of them as nameless. The fact that they are well tended means they have a name, Hero.
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• United States
13 Jun 16
@JudyEv People are not horrified enough by slaughter, either in battle or in nightclubs, restaurants, schools, etc.
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@JudyEv (325761)
• Rockingham, Australia
14 Jun 16
@ElizabethWallace That's true. We seem to have become inured to it. I don't think playing violent video games helps either.
@JudyEv (325761)
• Rockingham, Australia
13 Jun 16
That's very true. I like the fact that the spot where these 'nameless to us' soldiers lay, was acknowledged.
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@Shiva49 (26202)
• Singapore
16 Jun 16
It is indeed very emotional to think of of those who laid down their lives, made the ultimate sacrifice, so that the good triumphs. My prayers with them all and that is all I can do. My only hope is we don't repeat mistakes as we know the consequences that follow - siva
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@JudyEv (325761)
• Rockingham, Australia
16 Jun 16
Unfortunately humankind keeps making the same mistakes over and over.
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@JudyEv (325761)
• Rockingham, Australia
16 Jun 16
@Shiva49 That is a great definition of Einstein's isn't it? I don't think I've heard it before.
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@Shiva49 (26202)
• Singapore
16 Jun 16
@JudyEv I have been lamenting about this issue for long and some say condescendingly that I am an idealistic and have to grow up to the ways of the world! I recall Einstein's words which fit us to a tee: "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" siva .
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@Ronrybs (17849)
• London, England
20 Jul 22
I think this was the time of the 'Pals Battalions', where whole units were recruited from a neighourhood or even a single street. When things went bad, the losses were concentrated on such small areas causing great distress
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@JudyEv (325761)
• Rockingham, Australia
20 Jul 22
Yes indeed. Imagine all the young men of an area being struck down. And in those days, at their age, very few would have strayed very far from their home areas.
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@Ronrybs (17849)
• London, England
19 Jul 22
On Twitter I follow Prof. Tony Pollard who is a war archeologist. He is part of dig at Waterloo and he posted some photos of the burial of a soldier they had moved. No idea who he was, but treated reverently.
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@JudyEv (325761)
• Rockingham, Australia
20 Jul 22
That's nice to hear. We saw such a lot of unmarked graves. Vince's great uncle was blown up in a field hospital and his body never found.
@PatZAnthony (14752)
• Charlotte, North Carolina
14 Jun 16
So many are buried in common graves. This is so terrible for those who are not sure what happened to their family members.
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@JudyEv (325761)
• Rockingham, Australia
14 Jun 16
There are some sad letters in some of our war museums from mothers asking for help to go to visit their relative's last resting place. These were written just after the end of the war(s).
@Tampa_girl7 (48958)
• United States
14 Jun 16
I love visiting the old cemeteries.
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@JudyEv (325761)
• Rockingham, Australia
15 Jun 16
They are interesting aren't they? These were pretty sad so many of the men were barely in the 20s if at all.
@DeborahDiane (40055)
• Laguna Woods, California
14 Jun 16
There is something peaceful and interesting about a well-maintained cemetery. Thanks for sharing your photo of this one!
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@JudyEv (325761)
• Rockingham, Australia
14 Jun 16
After some of our run-down cemeteries here it was an eye-opener. Of course we don't have war cemeteries. Most of our war memorials are well looked after.
@shivamani10 (11038)
• Hyderabad, India
13 Jun 16
Unfortunately in India there is no such interest is show. I really wonder why people do not give importance to ethical and social values? 'They should learn at least from others. It is only a matter of just copying. Even that too 'no being done properly' means scant respect towards everything in life.
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@JudyEv (325761)
• Rockingham, Australia
14 Jun 16
Are you saying there are no war cemeteries in India? Would that be because bodies are cremated?
@shivamani10 (11038)
• Hyderabad, India
13 Jun 16
Well maintained cementry. Looking nice.
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@JudyEv (325761)
• Rockingham, Australia
13 Jun 16
All the cemeteries we saw were neat and trim. It was good to see such commitment after so many years.
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@acelawrites (19273)
• Philippines
14 Jun 16
Keeping the resting place of fallen heroes is a way of honoring and giving tribute for their great sacrifices for their country.
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