California USA?

@Fishmomma (11452)
United States
February 4, 2017 3:25am CST
I am certain that I'm not sure what the right answer is to my subject and hope others can tell me why I should or shouldn't sign the sheet. My husband and I have discussed the topic, so you know this one could affect us in a huge way. One topic my husband and I don't discuss often is politics, as we rarely agree being from different parties, so don't vote the same way. I don't know how other Californians feel about leaving the USA, as people are trying to get California to know longer be part of the United States? Would you sign, if the place you are leaving wanted to leave the country its in now?
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@LadyDuck (175633)
• Switzerland
4 Feb 17
I think I would not, European countries are a different matters, we never have been really "united", but I would not sign if I would live in the States.
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@topffer (36015)
• Svalbard And Jan Mayen
4 Feb 17
Europe is only 60 years old and has already done a lot towards unification. The main danger for the USA would be an Europe becoming the 1st world economical power, and Euro replacing Dollar in international transactions, it is why Trump wants it to collapse. Thanks to his bashing, I think that another important step for a more united Europe will come soon.
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@JolietJake (51107)
• United States
4 Feb 17
@topffer I assume you mean the European Union is 60 years old...Europe itself is a few hundred years older at least...
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@Fishmomma (11452)
• United States
4 Feb 17
@topffer Thanks for adding more information, as I need to be more informed. Several things have happened in the United States in 2017 that I have no idea whether the majority of Californians want to see this happen. I have already seen a lot of picket signs and people out standing on the freeways.
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@topffer (36015)
• Svalbard And Jan Mayen
4 Feb 17
I think that I would prefer to advocate for a change in the US electoral system to make it more fair (maybe by an election of the President with a direct universal suffrage system) than to leave, but I am not living in California.
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@Fishmomma (11452)
• United States
4 Feb 17
I live in California and many people are upset with some things that have occured including Trump wanting some countries to not enter the United States and the wall he wants to build.
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@topffer (36015)
• Svalbard And Jan Mayen
4 Feb 17
@Fishmomma I think that the days of the travel ban order are counted. Have you seen that it has now been temporarily blocked nationwide by a judge in Seattle ?
Judge James Robart granted a request from Washington state to put a temporary restraining order on key parts of the order.
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@Fishmomma (11452)
• United States
4 Feb 17
@topffer I saw the federal judge temporary restraining order blocking parts of the order. The question will be will it continue to stay blocked and will some of the blocked parts become unblocked. This isn't clear for me.
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@JolietJake (51107)
• United States
4 Feb 17
No, I wouldn't. Have you researched 'secession' by the way?
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@JolietJake (51107)
• United States
4 Feb 17
Consider...secession would mean there would now be borders in place...a very real possibility would be needing a passport to travel to any part of the USA. Also, import/export duties could be attached to products from the state that secedes to any place in the USA. There are a LOT of problems inherent to it.
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@Fishmomma (11452)
• United States
4 Feb 17
@JolietJake I have researched secession and see problems; however, I think they will get enough signatures. People are really mad in this state with Trump wanting a wall and to not allow people into this country. I won't sign, as see huge costs ahead.
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@LadyJJ (41)
• Tacoma, Washington
6 Feb 17
I was born and raised in the L.A.area. I would not think it would be wise for Cali to leave the U.S.A because they would crash financially. The state is just about bankrupt due to poor financial decisions made by the state government. Without Federal assistance It will not survive. Thankfully I no longer live there so I do not have to worry about such an unwise action.
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@Fishmomma (11452)
• United States
7 Feb 17
I don't think its one of this states better things to put on the ballot. We do some things that are smart moves like getting rid of one use bags that were causing power outages here.
@JohnRoberts (62751)
• Los Angeles, California
4 Feb 17
It sounds simple in theory for California to become it's own country but what about security and no military protection? Money? There's a vast number of technical issues. Plus if California were to succeed, where does it stop? Texas is the only state with a provision to succeed. Pretty soon the US will be nothing but a bunch of little independent countries.
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@Fishmomma (11452)
• United States
4 Feb 17
I am wondering if other states will try putting it on the ballot and Texas did come to my mind. I had always heard that Texas could only split itself into more states, but not succeed. I'll have to do more reading, as if a couple of big states split into more states, then we might have ended up with a different result.
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@allknowing (69323)
• India
4 Feb 17
Unless I know of its ramifications I would not.
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@stbrians (15893)
• Kakamega, Kenya
4 Feb 17
No, I will not
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