Health Care and Age Discrimination

@FourWalls (13696)
United States
March 17, 2017 8:01pm CST
Sorry I'm not very active tonight. My dad spent the day in the ER of the hospital. And I am furious. Dad's 86 years old. He had a heart valve replacement about eight years ago. He also suffers from emphysema from decades of smoking. So, today, he goes to the emergency room and is diagnosed with pneumonia. And they send him home. Why? Because he cannot lie flat in order for them to do an MRI to check his heart valve. Therefore, he has to wait until next month to see his doctor. If my dad were 56 instead of 86 I guaran-dang-tee you they'd find a way to get him on that MRI machine. (Dad has a huge hernia...seriously, he looks like he swallowed a basketball.) I went through this late last year with my 89-year-old aunt. I called her doctor to beg and plead for her to be checked for colon cancer (she had diarrhea for months) and for a psychologist to talk to her about depression. Her doctor dismissed my concerns with, "She is 89." Fine, then stop taking her money because it belongs to an 89-year-old. Yes, I truly believe there is age discrimination in our healthcare system. This is one of the ugly side effects of a bloated government and a greedy industry being in bed together. It "costs more" to deal with older people? Then just ignore them. They're gonna die soon anyway, right? Jerks. It's not their loved ones being treated that way. Sorry.
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@Mike197602 (13458)
• Worcester, England
18 Mar 17
In the past I worked in a hospital...a few actually. If someone had pneumonia I don't see why they'd be sent home as it needs to be treated No comment on the US system as a whole just on this issue I'd say something is wrong. did he have antibiotics or anything before he was sent home? And why isn't the hernia being dealt with?
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@FourWalls (13696)
• United States
18 Mar 17
Yes, they gave him antibiotics (which isn't going to do diddly poo if he has viral pneumonia). As for the hernia, it was "dealt with," which is why he looks like he's pregnant now. The repair surgery went wrong, and his reaction to the mesh implant nearly killed him (that also happened to my putting coach, who is significantly younger than my dad!). Given all of the problems he endured with the original hernia surgery and the snafus, he decided to live with the "basketball belly."
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@Mike197602 (13458)
• Worcester, England
18 Mar 17
@FourWalls that can happen with hernias. The bowel goes through the muscle and they go in and sew a mesh behind the muscle to keep the bowel in. Sometimes the mesh plate isn't big enough so the bowel pops out again...or mybe a reaction to the mesh?? I don't know as it was years ago when I worked in healthcare so I'm way behind the times. Purely from my limited experience I'd say to your dad don't sleep flat...try to keep the chest above the legs whilst in bed as that helps.
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@FourWalls (13696)
• United States
18 Mar 17
@Mike197602 -- he sleeps in a recliner. I don't know how long it's been since he slept in a bed. Thank you so much for your concern and insight.
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@shaggin (36845)
• United States
18 Mar 17
That is something I have heard of as well and I do believe it happens and is sad. They may live to be 100 if doctors treat them with the care they need and deserve. Just because they are old doesn't mean they should be shrugged off and left to die. I am angry reading this post about what is going on with your father! Pneumonia cannot be left for a month he needs to be treated now.
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@Mike197602 (13458)
• Worcester, England
18 Mar 17
my thoughts exactly...pneumonia kills people it needs to be fixed fast especially in the old/young/infirm.
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@TheSojourner (17454)
• United States
18 Mar 17
Oh, hon...I am so sorry. I have heard this very thing many times in response to the aging or the infirmed. Even to my own face, a young 25-yo submariner getting out..."You baby boomers need to die already. We are taking over the world." It was the day after I had shared that people need to get into things that they love and not just for the money, and I share my stage 4 cancer story about loving my job, even if I'm on a short lead in life now with age/illness. There is an attitude, especially in this country, that I do not understand. Get rid of the old. Forget prolonging life in illness. Let them die, let me go through their stuff, move into their houses and spend the money they worked for... I'm not so sure that they treat their loved ones any differently.
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@FourWalls (13696)
• United States
18 Mar 17
That's part of why this country is going to disintegrate soon.
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@FourWalls (13696)
• United States
18 Mar 17
@LoriAMoore -- it's part of that "me, me, me, me, me" mentality in this country. They can't get care at the VA because they didn't earn it, while the VA is still treating World War II vets.
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• United States
18 Mar 17
@FourWalls you make a very interesting point here. Because at the age of 62 and living with a terminal disease, I have thought I thought very thing. Especially, when we feel like we are such a burden to other people or will be. And because Society doesn't seem to have the time of day for people, I can certainly see why the statistics are what they are.
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@JudyEv (123170)
• Bunbury, Australia
18 Mar 17
This is a dreadful way to treat people. Some think, as soon as a person reaches x years, they are undeserving of treatment and should just die. It's disgusting.
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@sharon6345 (125410)
• United States
18 Mar 17
It's going to be everyone's loved one sooner or later. It's just they have the money to pay. I know that goes on all over. Whatever will he do now?
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@FourWalls (13696)
• United States
18 Mar 17
He goes home, takes his medications, and we all hope he lives until his cardiologist appointment next month.
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@Dena91 (4212)
• United States
18 Mar 17
You have every reason to be angry. We deal with it with Mike's parents. His Dad is 88 and his Mom 84. And I agree, the way they treat our elders is repulsvie and disrepectful to say the least. Prayers for your Dad.
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@andriaperry (50600)
• United States
18 Mar 17
I have seen this too, BUT they will suck all their insurance dry then turn a blind eye.
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@celticeagle (118231)
• Boise, Idaho
18 Mar 17
No, it isn't. I had pneumonia and my doctor just told me to sleep setting up. What could they do for him if he stayed at the hospital?. Keep him monitored? Was that your concern? My pneumonia lasted about a month. I was out of work. There are many kinds of pneumonia too. I hope he is alright. You've really had some negative experiences. Sounds like these doctors aren't very caring. Some shouldn't be in the medicine field. Makes me angry.
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@JohnRoberts (56767)
• Los Angeles, California
18 Mar 17
I believe there is age discrimination everywhere period.
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@megatron777 (3778)
• Guam
18 Mar 17
That is unfair. Bloated government and greedy industry are a bad mix. These old folks are human being and not mere potential source of profits. A real shame.
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@FourWalls (13696)
• United States
18 Mar 17
I know. I feel like watching the original Rollerball (which dealt with a supposedly idyllic world run by corporations).
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• Guam
19 Mar 17
@FourWalls You're right.
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@TRBRocks420 (77406)
• Banks, Oregon
18 Mar 17
I think you are right my friend. I honestly don't trust them a bit really, also prayers to your Dad.
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@FourWalls (13696)
• United States
18 Mar 17
Thanks so much.
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@Brittnyrose (1457)
• Aberdeen, North Carolina
18 Mar 17
Hope everything turns out good for you..and people should care a little .ore rather its there family or not.
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@Shavkat (62453)
• Philippines
18 Mar 17
I am not sure why your dad was sent home. His condition needed to be taking care of. Pneumonia is a serious medical condition and MRI should be administered if it is needed. Some doctors are greedy in terms of giving their services. That's the sad fact. I had worked in the hospital and can't tolerate the practice in treating their patients who are really in need.
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@allknowing (65043)
• India
18 Mar 17
Seniors have no place in society. Sad but true.
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@Fleura (7191)
• United Kingdom
19 Mar 17
I'm surprised that happens with a paid-for healthcare system, I thought they would be more than happy to treat anyone and get paid for it. In fact I would imagine that providing unnecessary treatment would be more of a problem!