The horror!

@TheHorse (62414)
Pleasant Hill, California
December 19, 2017 11:03am CST
This is what my Martin D-18 acoustic guitar looked like a few days ago. The binding had worked loose, and nobody (meaning Guitar Centers in Concord and Emeryville) wanted to touch it, even though they're supposedly Warranty Service Centers for Martin Guitars. So I decided to do the repair myself. I hadn't realized that painter's tape couple be used as a "clamp" and wouldn't damage the surface of highly polished guitars. Live and learn. The glue I used was a special guitar glue for just this kind of repair. I got it from StewMac, which makes products for guitar repair. It only took about three days to arrive. If you look carefully, you can see that I'd already "clamped" the area to the left, but was masking the area to the right, to drop some glue into the gap. I took care of the middle area last. You can see that the binding there is still slightly separated from the guitar.
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@Corbin5 (100227)
• United States
19 Dec
I hope this fix is a successful one!! Painter/s tape is a handy tape to have around. However, painter's tape does let paint seep through, which is not good at all. Good luck with this repair.
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@amadeo (61928)
• United States
19 Dec
yes,same here.Good luck with the repair.You have your work cut out for you
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@TheHorse (62414)
• Pleasant Hill, California
19 Dec
My hope was that it wouldn't let the glue seep through. If it lets paint seep through, how can it be good for masking in painting situations? Can you "double it up"?
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@TheHorse (62414)
• Pleasant Hill, California
19 Dec
@amadeo Thanks, Alfredo. I will take a picture of the end result.
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@andriaperry (46642)
• United States
20 Dec
You`re good! You got this little job, no problem.
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@TheHorse (62414)
• Pleasant Hill, California
20 Dec
I'm almost done now!
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@andriaperry (46642)
• United States
20 Dec
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@Bluedoll (17074)
• Canada
19 Dec
Should be fine as long as it doesn't rattle. I have strings that rattle, need to do something with the bridge.
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@TheHorse (62414)
• Pleasant Hill, California
20 Dec
Yes, if the sound is compromised, it's worth it to fix it. Could be as simple as a truss rod adjustment. Or maybe a higher bridge saddle.
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@Bluedoll (17074)
• Canada
20 Dec
@TheHorse It's so nice to have those strings close to the frets but think you are right just not too sure how to go about it.
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@TheHorse (62414)
• Pleasant Hill, California
20 Dec
@Bluedoll There's a tradeoff, of course. Once you get callouses on your fingers, higher "action" is less of a bother, plus you get a louder, bassier sound.
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@FourWalls (12946)
• United States
20 Dec
Ever considered getting a job at CF Martin? (I remember telling you that they said they couldn't do anything to repair my friend's guitar that once belonged to her father, an your reply was, "There's always something that can be done.")
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@TheHorse (62414)
• Pleasant Hill, California
20 Dec
Heh. That would be exciting! But it would certainly require some retooling. I really think that there is almost always something that can be done. You reduce a guitar's "authenticity" if you replace the bracing, or put on a new fingerboard, but I think it's always possible to make a guitar playable.
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@just4him (110269)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
19 Dec
That's an expensive 'live and learn'.
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@TheHorse (62414)
• Pleasant Hill, California
20 Dec
Happily, there's no way I can destroy the guitar or hurt its sound. I just want it to look as good as it can.
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@just4him (110269)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
20 Dec
@TheHorse That's a good thing.
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@JudyEv (119172)
• Bunbury, Australia
19 Dec
It looks like the repair is proceeding well. Have you had any experience with glues suitable for fixing ceramic/china ornaments?
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@TheHorse (62414)
• Pleasant Hill, California
20 Dec
No! Is that something you're dealing with now? I'd think Gorilla Glue (not the foamy kid) would work.
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@JudyEv (119172)
• Bunbury, Australia
20 Dec
@TheHorse Yeaers ago, I had an old gentleman who used to repair ornaments for me but I'm sure he'd be deceased by now. It crossed my mind that I should be trying to do these repairs myself. It's mainly china horses with broken legs.
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@kritis (626)
• India
19 Dec
Hope it got fixed..
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@TheHorse (62414)
• Pleasant Hill, California
20 Dec
I did a little more work on it tonight. It's pretty close to where I want it.
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@kritis (626)
• India
20 Dec
@TheHorse That's a good news..keep the work going..
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@TheHorse (62414)
• Pleasant Hill, California
20 Dec
@kritis I'll post an "after" picture when I'm satisfied that I'm done, in a day or two.
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@TheSojourner (17479)
• United States
20 Dec
I have always been impressed with your skills. I know many people that would just throw something away for that
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@TheHorse (62414)
• Pleasant Hill, California
20 Dec
Throw away a $3000 Martin guitar? For shame!
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• United States
20 Dec
@TheHorse maybe not a Martin.
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@TheHorse (62414)
• Pleasant Hill, California
20 Dec
@CoralLevang Heh heh. If I had something that was beyond my ability to fix I'd probably try to sell it on Craigslist. There's always someone out there who knows what to do.
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• Ponce De Leon, Florida
19 Dec
Is it going to live to play again?
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@TheHorse (62414)
• Pleasant Hill, California
19 Dec
It will, even if I screw things up. This fix is only cosmetic. But I like to be dramatic now and again.
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@DianneN (74598)
• United States
20 Dec
It's looking good. Nothing that a little of your expertise can't handle.
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@TheHorse (62414)
• Pleasant Hill, California
20 Dec
I think all of the stuff I've done with speakers helped me. But this WAS more of a challenge since I had only once chance to get it right.
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@DianneN (74598)
• United States
22 Dec
20 Dec
aw what happened bro
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@TheHorse (62414)
• Pleasant Hill, California
20 Dec
The binding started coming up. Apparently, it wasn't glued down properly over a 4" strip on the lower side of the guitar.
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20 Dec
@TheHorse i hope it will be fix soon so u can compose another song bro! keep rockin!
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@Platespinner (16529)
• Winston Salem, North Carolina
19 Dec
If all else fails do it yourself! I hope this works for you!
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@TheHorse (62414)
• Pleasant Hill, California
19 Dec
Thanks! So far so good. There are a couple of tweaks I still need to do. I'll take an "after" photo.
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• Winston Salem, North Carolina
19 Dec
@TheHorse I look forward to it!
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@teamfreak16 (40534)
• Colorado Springs, Colorado
20 Dec
I never would have thought of using painters tape as a clamp. Brilliant.
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@TheHorse (62414)
• Pleasant Hill, California
20 Dec
Guess I'm not too old to learn something new.
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20 Dec
hope it will be fix again so u can play the guitar
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@TheHorse (62414)
• Pleasant Hill, California
20 Dec
I can play the poor thing even when the binding is loose. But I don't want to have to worry about it. My gigging guitar is a different guitar. It has electronics. This one doesn't
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@Marty1 (31950)
• Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
19 Dec
That really looks like a hard job! Here's wishing you luck in the outcome but i am sure you will do great!
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@TheHorse (62414)
• Pleasant Hill, California
19 Dec
Thanks--I,m pretty confident too. I just have to be patient and take things one step at a time.
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@peachpurple (12387)
• Malaysia
19 Dec
i hope you had fixed the guitar already
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@TheHorse (62414)
• Pleasant Hill, California
19 Dec
It's done now, though there's some tweaking to be done.
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@kobesbuddy (41129)
• East Tawas, Michigan
20 Dec
It's surprising what a little bit of ingenuity and TLC will do, for a musical instrument in need! Those warranties are usually a big joke, from my own personal experience. I'm glad you're handy enough, to fix this very lovely guitar!
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@TheHorse (62414)
• Pleasant Hill, California
20 Dec
Thanks! I think if there were a major structural issue, Martin wold do a good job of fixing it. The tech I talked to said that fixing loose binding is a touchy issue, because it never looks EXACTLY like it did before. The final coats of finish are put on the guitar AFTER it's made.
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@kobesbuddy (41129)
• East Tawas, Michigan
20 Dec
@TheHorse Those final coats are probably a security measure, over the repaired binding.
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@TheHorse (62414)
• Pleasant Hill, California
20 Dec
@kobesbuddy But when we repair binding, we don't reapply finish. That's why it might look slightly different. I've been buffing my repair out with car polish. You can only tell there's been a repair if you look really closely. I just took a picture of the "finished product."
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• United States
19 Dec
You did a great job ! Have a wonderful holiday
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@TheHorse (62414)
• Pleasant Hill, California
20 Dec
How can you tell!!??
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• United States
20 Dec
@TheHorse isn't what the Super Glue bottle sitting on the piece you replaced ? If not, well then I am guessing you did a great job ????
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@TheHorse (62414)
• Pleasant Hill, California
20 Dec
@enlightenedpsych2 It is the glue I used. Things turned out OK, though I'm still trying to sand the binding and the wood flush (without damaging the wood finish). I'll post a photo of the "finished product" soon.
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@jstory07 (65402)
• Roseburg, Oregon
21 Dec
You are good at repairing those guitars.
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@TheHorse (62414)
• Pleasant Hill, California
21 Dec
I'm good at not doing more than I've learned how to do. This repair was right at the edge, but I got good advice/instruction from the tech at Guitar Center in Emeryville. I am thankful for that.
@BelleStarr (37118)
• Portland, Connecticut
20 Dec
Talk about finding other uses for products!! I hope the beautiful guitar is good as new when you are done.
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@TheHorse (62414)
• Pleasant Hill, California
20 Dec
It's going to be close. Nobody will notice the repair unlss I point it out to them.
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