Kissing a child...is it wrong?

@vandana7 (98830)
India
February 23, 2018 6:57am CST
I'd say it is. I am affectionate is no excuse. If the child is not mine - I need to keep my sudden impulses to go and hug her or kiss her under control, BECAUSE I AM A RESPONSIBLE ADULT. This enables the child to differentiate between attention of pedophile and others. It is ok to run hand over the child's head. It is ok to pinch the child's cheeks. But it is not OK to pin a child in a way that he or she cannot use hands and legs. No matter how much you care, and no matter how young the child is. But I could be wrong. The child needs love. I share a beautiful relationship with my neighbor's kids. I have been on the receiving end of their kisses. But I have not gone overboard. It is not as if I never felt the need. The little girl has edible cheeks. I have just checked myself in time for the reason I stated. Usually older children (7 to 12) do try to push away adults other than parents. But younger ones too have rights. Please tell me up to which extent you consider it to be right, and why.
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@Icydoll (36717)
• India
23 Feb 18
You have a point ..we should have limit affection towards kids.its not good to cross the limit.
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@vandana7 (98830)
• India
23 Feb 18
I think Papon is wrong. Not because he had malafide intention, but because it will become difficult for the child to tell others keep off. They will then say, you allowed Papon to kiss you. It becomes confusing for the child to draw lines.
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@TheHorse (205771)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Feb 18
But I think limits vary by culture and subculture. I would certainly never hug or kiss a kid I didn't know. I might high five them or something.
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@vandana7 (98830)
• India
24 Feb 18
@TheHorse How long acquaintance do you need to kiss a kid. :) I think a more deeper level of trust has to exist.
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@shshiju (10342)
• Cochin, India
23 Feb 18
Child need kisses and affection of their parents and grand parents. But there may be boundaries for them who can touch and kiss them. They should taught and aware of this.
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@vandana7 (98830)
• India
23 Feb 18
I think except parents, nobody should be doing that. Not even grand parents. It takes child a while to know who is family and who is to be trusted.
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@TheHorse (205771)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Feb 18
@vandana7 I put a kiss on my friend's 2 1/2-year-old daughter's head as I was leaving the preschool yesterday. She is SO squishable and has known me since she was born. Her mom is my co-teacher in the bigger kid room this year, and I've known her mom for years. At nap time, my friend's daughter will sometimes crawl into my lap and fall asleep. Would that seem strange in India?
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@shshiju (10342)
• Cochin, India
24 Feb 18
@vandana7 Parents go to work in the day time or other shifts. So children spare their time with others especially teachers or child care persons. They had equal role to teach them who is trusted and who is not trusted
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@excellence7 (3647)
• Mauritius
23 Feb 18
In the purview of law, a child cannot consent because he or she is under the direct responsibility of his or her parents and he or she is deemed to lack the necessary rationale to undertake decisions at that phase of his or her life. Consequently, even if we begin asking a child whether we can kiss them or not, this should also give them the rights to be asked whether we can play with them or not. Though I agree that kissing is more affectionate and is about physical proximity, we must not forget that the law seeks to maintain the normative rules of an objective society. Kissing (on the cheeks) and hugging babies are seen as social behaviours that have not been objected for centuries. There is a presumption in this: it is done out of pure affection. Hence, I don't think there is a need to ask a baby or a kid whether we can hug or kiss them. However, in this attempt, we must be responsible enough to understand whether the baby or child's behaviour expresses consent or not. If not, we must definitely cease doing this. Parents have an important role to play in this too. They are the one who defines the limits around their children. Hence, they must know the closeness they are allowing between their children and other people.
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@vandana7 (98830)
• India
23 Feb 18
It was kiss on cheek only but still the child did not want it and had no say in it. I think as a responsible adult, it should not have been done. At least I presumed it was kiss on cheek. It turned out to be on lips...that is gross..GROSS. 30 plus guy kissing 11 year old on lips is gross.
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@vandana7 (98830)
• India
24 Feb 18
@TheHorse You I would trust.
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@TheHorse (205771)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Feb 18
I've worked with littlies for years, and it's not that hard to tell what kid of affection they want, and what they don't want. When they want a hug or a safe lap to sit in, they will generally just come over and give you a hug, or plop down in your lap. If they're injured, and need an adult to pronounce them OK, I WILL sometimes kiss my hand and put it on the owie. Sometimes I'll say, "Is this a 'just look at it' owie, a hug owie, a one kiss owie, or a two kiss owie?"
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@amadeo (111948)
• United States
23 Feb 18
same here I do not kiss other people kids.Unless they are my relative
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@vandana7 (98830)
• India
23 Feb 18
On one music reality show, the teacher kissed somebody from his team. I can't imagine Simon Cowell doing it to Angelic Hale..
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@vandana7 (98830)
• India
27 Feb 18
@amadeo Oh I am sorry..Typo on my part. It is Angelica Hale.
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@amadeo (111948)
• United States
23 Feb 18
@vandana7 this i do not know.I know Simon but not Angelic
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@Plethos (13560)
• United States
23 Feb 18
i dont kiss other peoples children.
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@vandana7 (98830)
• India
23 Feb 18
I agree. The child will be able to react faster with wrong attention. Pedophile will also not do things brazenly while parents keep watching, wondering whether they should act or ignore.
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@vandana7 (98830)
• India
23 Feb 18
@Plethos When it is causing problems it needs to go.
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@Plethos (13560)
• United States
23 Feb 18
@vandana7 - i hate the kissee kissee greeting and farewell culture over here.
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@ms1864 (6886)
• Bangalore, India
24 Feb 18
Your post reminded me of a uncle I have who used to hold me in such a way and kiss my cheeks. I hated it! I complained to my mother who put at end to it. ..thankfully. So personally, I have only ever hugged a child ...and I usually wait for the child to be comfortable with me.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
24 Feb 18
@ms1864 Hello, Ms Manisha, long time no see!
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@TheHorse (205771)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Feb 18
I've had girlfriends in the past who reported the same kind of thing: that Uncle who was never quite "abusive" but still made them "uncomfortable."
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@ms1864 (6886)
• Bangalore, India
25 Feb 18
@MALUSE Hi. Hope you are well. I have just been occupied with family problems....never get time to relax on mylot. Now I have a bit time free....so came to visit and catch-up.
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@allknowing (130064)
• India
24 Feb 18
You must be referring to that guy on the reality show. The video showed something that looked vulgar although he claims it was no so. Kissing other people's children is common but I would abhor anyone even parents if they kissed their children on their lips
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@vandana7 (98830)
• India
24 Feb 18
It looked like kissing on lips. It is difficult for parents to react because they have entered their kids in the contract, and it would be too sudden, and sometimes declared narrow minded. Parents confused? Imagine what must be child's confusion. Even a peck on kiss by stranger may prompt others trying same thing and then asking if it was Ok for that guy to do why is it not ok for us? Can the child answer that? She is 11. We live in a different society after all with some westernized, and some still steeped in old fashioned ways. A middle path is tough to find. What would be construed narrow minded, or labeled as over reacting? There is no clear cut definition as it varies from one place to another, and one social group to another. Confusion is natural. In this case, much as I like the guy's singing, I could not declare it as innocent. The reason? You like a girl's singing? You upload singing, not your overwhelming affections towards her. That was sort of display, you know..kind of score card. I am sorry, but if I were the judge, I would pronounce him guilty.
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@allknowing (130064)
• India
24 Feb 18
@vandana7 I tend to agree with you. He has a professional relationship with this child and it should remain that way.
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@TheHorse (205771)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Feb 18
@vandana7 Guity of kissing? I don't know the back story.
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@LadyDuck (458233)
• Switzerland
23 Feb 18
I would never kiss another person kid, some people do not even want that you touch them. I can understand, I do not pinch their cheeks or touch their hair.
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@vandana7 (98830)
• India
27 Feb 18
I agree, few children do not like others touching them. Up to certain age, they are fine being lifted, pampered, taken around. But after certain age, if you are even playing with their hair, they get irritated. At least, we must respect that feeling.
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@LadyDuck (458233)
• Switzerland
27 Feb 18
@vandana7 I think we should, after all we do not like at all those attentions.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
24 Feb 18
What you're saying here is reasonable.
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@vandana7 (98830)
• India
27 Feb 18
Thank you for finding it reasonable. I love kids, and it is horrid that they become victims. While law and law enforcers are to do much, we ourselves can do something too.
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@vandana7 (98830)
• India
27 Feb 18
@MALUSE Interesting. Is the ratio of pedophiles lower at your end? Or perhaps...are pedophile abuse cases lower in Germany? Then may be cultural differences can be blamed.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
27 Feb 18
@vandana7 There are great cultural differences, though. Grown-up Germans usually don't have the urge to hug and kiss children of other people. Italians, however, do it. Nearly all grown-up Italians squeeze the cheeks of small children, whether they know them or not.
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@TheHorse (205771)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Feb 18
I think there are cultural differences as well as individual differences. I ruffle kids' hair as I walk by them at the preschool. They seem to like that. But in some Asian cultures (I lerned in the Amarican movie, Gran Torino) that is not a proper thing to do. When working with littlies, I do give lots of hugs, but kisses are rare. I do let littlies sit in my lap at circle time (and when I read to them), and they gobble up the affection. But I rarely tickle kids, as to me, that's me "taking control" of their bodies. I particularly avoided tickling when I worked with kids who had been abused.
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@vandana7 (98830)
• India
24 Feb 18
The controversy arose from a judge in a reality program kissing the child. First and foremost, he is aware of how Indian environment is. He grew up here. Secondly, the familiarity was not that much - after all, the program hardly lasts for six months and that too, he is not in regular touch with the girls in his team. And the girl he kissed was 11.
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@TheHorse (205771)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Feb 18
@vandana7 I will check it out.
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@TheHorse (205771)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Feb 18
@vandana7 I read the article. Could this all be a publicity grab?
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@Daljinder (23233)
• Bangalore, India
24 Feb 18
I wait for kids to come to me on their own. No use making them cry unnecessarily. I like to cuddle babies/ infants a lot.
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@vandana7 (98830)
• India
27 Feb 18
Infants are so softy softy nice smell ..I love Johnson Baby Powder smell.
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@Daljinder (23233)
• Bangalore, India
28 Feb 18
@vandana7 Me too!
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@JustBhem (70555)
• Davao, Philippines
23 Feb 18
I won't let someone kiss my nephews and nieces on the lips even their parents because babies are very prone to infection too.
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@vandana7 (98830)
• India
23 Feb 18
I wouldn't even let them kiss on cheeks or forehead.
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@JustBhem (70555)
• Davao, Philippines
23 Feb 18
@vandana7 Me too.
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@responsiveme (22926)
• India
27 Feb 18
Gosh didn't realise that the Papon story would make such inroads even into mylot...Thought it was only in the local news. May be excused cause don't have tv But yes his behaviour didn't look innocent in the clips I am getting on WhatsApp....That lip kiss is very very inappropriate to say the least
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@vandana7 (98830)
• India
27 Feb 18
Well, I was looking at the international view on the subject...where they draw lines...and letting them know why I don't kiss little ones. I hug them only till they ask for it, not give way to my need.
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25 Feb 18
I think there is nothing wrong in kissing a child,but in this world there are people with good intentions and bad intentions,which we cannot understand. So parents will not like if any strangers kiss their children. Though we do with a good intention, they would be scared and protect their children,and would not like their children with strangers. If the parents allow it is okay.
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@vandana7 (98830)
• India
27 Feb 18
My contention is, even if parents allow it, it is not ok. That is because in future a pedophile kisses the child will not be able to easily identify and keep distance. Parents may not have thought that far. At least I think so. A child trusts as parents trust. Parents obviously don't know their relative or friend to be a pedophile. So if they allow the child to be kissed, it is putting the child at risk.
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@anya12adwi (6037)
• India
23 Feb 18
edible cheeks?? haha.. yes mommie, we need little bit restrain from doing so.. because, it makes them resilient towards our love.. like random love showerings from random people without any fondness from babies.. by the way, i do have edible cheeks.. :) ;)
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@vandana7 (98830)
• India
27 Feb 18
Yes, I know ..your cheeks will be eaten...you have not sent facebook request to my addy. lol
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• India
28 Feb 18
@vandana7 i don't know his fb name! hehe.. no, spare my cheeks mommy.. world, save me!! hehe
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@Daelii (5619)
• United States
23 Feb 18
I agree a pat on the upper back or head is okay. Hugs are okay if both are okay with it. Its ok for parents, grand parents, aunts, etc to kiss a cheek. If kid doesn't want it, they shouldn't be forced. Ever since I read an article about how kids felt being pushed to kiss strangers ( grand parent, distant relative they just meet or only see like once a year)... I'm totally not ok with it being a joke in movies or life. If an adult demands that affection and dont get it, Its their own darn fault for not being an active family member. Its a privilege not a right!
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@vandana7 (98830)
• India
27 Feb 18
In our culture, hugs are also rare. And the child often does not like somethings. I remember I used to play with my little friend who has straight hair. So I used to plait them when they got long, then he used to use his hand to push my hands away. We need to respect the child ...if the behavior is not ok with adults, it is not ok with a child.
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