License to Hurt

@YrNemo (20261)
March 31, 2018 6:48am CST
I often wonder about 'crime of passion' cases. Recently more so, after reading about a Muslim in his late 30s who mutilated his Muslim wife who was in her late 20s. He stabbed her repeatedly in front of their three young children then later dumping her still alive body in a bush, taking the young kids with him while doing the deed (the youngest was about 2, the oldest about 6 or so). She died as a result of too much blood loss. Her body was found later. In this case, it was not a crime of passion, but only because she had tried to stop him from joining the Muslim extremists in Sirya. The sad thing about it was, theirs had been an arranged marriage. He had had some bad criminal records prior to his marriage. --- That made me think of other cases. One was a very gentle man from Down Under (New Zealand or Australia, I can't remember which) who used a spear to kill his wife and her unborn child (which was a result from her affair to someone else). Do you think that man had the right to take lives like that? It is always awful to find out that your partner had betrayed you, and perhaps doing so while laughing behind your back, but the act of killing someone in anger, I wonder if that is justifiable. --- I have an acquaintance whose husband, a Portuguese, had used to hit her black and blue until she ran away from him one day to protect her pregnancy. Someone told me that it is Portuguese culture for men to discipline their wives. Some social workers told me that similar domestic violence has often happened in Lebanese families. Whatever, it sounds sad to be born a helpless female, who unfortunate enough to fall in love one day to a violent man. --- I heard of cases in which the man who hit his partner, excused himself that he did so because he was too jealous, too in love with her. Do you think people should use that excuse to hurt their partners? (There were cases in which the male was physically abused by his wife! Don't know if it was true or not, but Roger Moore who played James Bond in some 007 movies, seemed to be hit often by his former wives.) --- Do you think people can use love as an excuse to frequently injure their partners? I kept thinking about that Muslim mother who was stabbed and mutilated in front of her young children. Let hope their kids growing up, won't copy their father one day. My thought and prayer this Easter, are for people who are right now, bound in an unhappy relationship. Happy Easter everyone. (Let hope I have my internet connection back soon. )
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@DianneN (246838)
• United States
1 Apr 18
Anyone who murders or abuses a spouse is mentally ill, permanently or temporarily. In this day and age, there is no excuse for abusing another, man or woman. I didn't know that about poor Roger Moore.
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@YrNemo (20261)
1 Apr 18
I was horrified too (re: Roger Moore). He has always looked a gentle person.
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@JudyEv (325809)
• Rockingham, Australia
1 Apr 18
Domestic violence is on the rise in Australia and there are quite a number of battered husbands although not as many as abused wives. It's all very sad. It is dreadful that young children are subjected to seeing such violence.
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@JudyEv (325809)
• Rockingham, Australia
1 Apr 18
@YrNemo It is very sad. Children need to be protected from this sort of thing.
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@YrNemo (20261)
1 Apr 18
I read a few cases in which some children witnessed their older sibling killed or got killed. They later grew up, also committed murders. Awful isn't it.
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@YrNemo (20261)
1 Apr 18
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@vandana7 (98830)
• India
31 Mar 18
I think whatever we utter needs to be weighed. It starts from there. But carrying it so far as physical abuse is more of "animal" force rather than "cultured" human being. Culture may be from any religion, but all cultures that allow men or women to physically hurt others are wrong.
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@YrNemo (20261)
1 Apr 18
Some men said they didn't intentionally bruise their women (when they hit their partners ), it just that the women got bruised easily. I don't know what to say, hearing that sort of excuse. Some men bruised (hitting) their wives so often that you begin to wonder why the women have kept staying there to be hit like that. Then again, there are other types of hurting too (eg. mentally).
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@vandana7 (98830)
• India
1 Apr 18
@YrNemo Mental hurt is more difficult to show.
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1 Apr 18
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@BelleStarr (61047)
• United States
31 Mar 18
My husband is Portugues and so were his parents and they and we have a loving marriage and he has never tried to discipline me and my mother in law was much more the boss in that family. No Portuguese men I know are like that.
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@BelleStarr (61047)
• United States
2 Apr 18
@YrNemo I think bullies can be any race, religion or nationality, and that is what men who abuse women are big old bullies who I guarantee would not be treating a man their own size in the same way.
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@YrNemo (20261)
31 Mar 18
I am so glad to hear this. That girl must be unlucky to marry a not nice Portuguese then.
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@YrNemo (20261)
3 Apr 18
@BelleStarr You are so right there.
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@ridingbet (66857)
• Philippines
31 Mar 18
i think those men who are violent to their wives, are psychologically incapacitated.
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@YrNemo (20261)
1 Apr 18
Some said since they loved their wives so much, they had the right! What an excuse!
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@YrNemo (20261)
2 Apr 18
@ridingbet (re: your explanation)
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@mlgen1037 (29886)
• Manila, Philippines
31 Mar 18
Very saddening that will always find a way to justify their actions, particularly when they kill someone for passion or for jealousy or whatever reasons they could think of. No one has the right to kill anybody even if that person did you wrong.
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@YrNemo (20261)
3 Apr 18
You are right but the bullies of this world do differently whenever they think no one can touch them.
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@mlgen1037 (29886)
• Manila, Philippines
3 Apr 18
@YrNemo thats true. They feel entitled. They are not justice to call the shots.
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@AKRao24 (27424)
• India
1 Apr 18
@YrNemo , though human being is also an animal , there is a basic difference him/her and other animals as human being is having most evolved brains and have a language to express the feelings! So I think , human beings must use this boon to express themselves and avoid physical tortures! It is beyond my understanding how can a person become so cruel to kill another person in a cold blooded manner? Love for that matter never demands any cruelty or torture! There is no role in crime or physical assault in love! In my opinion such people are either thoroughly brain washed people or are maniacs to become so! May be I am wrong! What do you say? Thanks!
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@AKRao24 (27424)
• India
1 Apr 18
@YrNemo , Having said above things from the above thing you mentioned I think its one's ego sometimes takes one for ride and makes one a fool to behave like that!
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@YrNemo (20261)
1 Apr 18
@YrNemo (20261)
1 Apr 18
I have never cared much for violence in any form. Regardless, I keep seeing women and children got abused by people who they really love and trust. It is a sad world we are living in. I still remember the colleague/friend turned up to work with a black eye. Asked her what happened, she said she walked into a door by accident and I believed it. UNTIL someone pointed out that that lady must have been punched in the face. When I asked the lady if that was true, she said, 'yes, my husband hit me again!' I was horrified. That young lady was loved and courted with roses & expensive gifts for three long years before her marriage. That wealthy guy had waited for her to finish her degree so that he could marry her. It was a white wedding, with lots of money spent on it. The wedding was so wonderful that when she got hit repeatedly later, she couldn't let her parents and friends know, in case they laughed or pity her. I don't know what to say! (except to offer her some shelter if she ever needed. She divorced him ages ago, several years after that black eyes event.)
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@Freelanzer (10745)
• Canada
1 Apr 18
Love has nothing to do with it. It is usually an exercise of power and these men are criminals. Unfortunately women are usually the victims.
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@YrNemo (20261)
1 Apr 18
I have that suspicion too. Glad that you could point that out in simple language.
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@Poppylicious (11133)
2 Apr 18
There is never an excuse for violence in any form of relationship. It's about power and control, and although it has been deemed 'acceptable' in some cultures in the past {even in the Christian west, horrors!}, the world is now changing. I don't believe that the extreme violence you mention is a mental health situation; that sort of violence stems from humiliation, pure anger, and shame, and needing to be in control.
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@YrNemo (20261)
3 Apr 18
We were all taught to do the right thing, but some do have a very strange conscience.