Am I Losing It?

taxes
@MALUSE (69413)
Germany
June 8, 2018 12:22pm CST
Every year I do my income tax statement and send it to the tax and revenue office. If I don't do it, there are no negative consequences. But there aren't any positive ones, either. I get money back for my expenses. For example, for my health insurance and also for donations to charity. Before reunification, West Germans also got some money back for parcels sent to people in the GDR (German Democratic Republic). How this is calculated, is beyond me. But I don't have to know this, do I? Only the result is interesting. Last year, I got ~$758 back. Not bad, eh? I go to the tax and revenue office where I find several forms which I have to fill in. There is always so much to fill in and it's boring to do it. I procrestinate and procrastinate. The deadline date is May 31st. This year I didn't make it. I have no apology for that. I'm retired and have time enough. I remembered reading that one can ask for some more time in case of need. According to the info on the net I have to ask for this in writing. Really? I decided to call. From here on, things became weird. I was connected with a friendly woman. I told her my identification number and heard her clicking on her computer. She found me and told me - fanfare! fanfare! - that I had filled in all the forms a long time ago and put them in the letter box of the tax and revenue office! They were working on them and I would soon hear from them. WHAT ? How could I have forgotten it? I said to the woman that this may be a sign of onsetting memory loss. She said, "You were a teacher, weren't you?" She saw that in the information on the screen. I asked her if she thought that that meant a healthy brain and a reliable memory. We both started giggling. Then she named the school I had been a teacher at. She couldn't know that! It wasn't mentioned on the form. So she knew me from somewhere else?! I was so befuddled that I forgot to ask. I can't speak about other parts of the country. I can only say that office clerks in my part (the south-west) are always friendly, efficient - and honest. Foreigners, especially from Southern European countries, love them. You've lost your driving license? You go to the respective office and leave with an ersatz driving license. In Italy, it can happen that you drive for months without a document which can become expensive if you're caught. Who says that bureaucracy is a bad thing?
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@thelme55 (76476)
• Germany
8 Jun 18
That was much money returned from the tax. Before when my parents were still alive, we included the monthly money that we help in applying for an income tax return. The return was not bad at all. Maybe the woman in the phone was your student before.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
8 Jun 18
@thelme55 @andriaperry @Starmaiden I think that she would have told me if she had been my student. My guess is that she was a mother or a close relative of a student of mine. Some years ago I had to talk with the local garbage collection office and found a mother of a pupil on the phone. I'm always glad when it turns out that I had a good relationship with the pupil in question! I found that this was especially important when a physician who was ready to cut out my appendix asked me - when I was already on the operasting table! - if I taught class so-and-so which his daughter attended.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
8 Jun 18
@thelme55 When you are in the Philippines, do you sometimes miss German bureaucracy or other German qualities?
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@thelme55 (76476)
• Germany
8 Jun 18
@MALUSE I supposed so. If she was your student, she must have asked you how you are doing.
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@andriaperry (116860)
• Anniston, Alabama
8 Jun 18
Better that you forgot that you had done the tax forms than not. I bet she was a student of yours.
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@topffer (42156)
• France
8 Jun 18
If there is a "return" on the income tax it is deduced from our following income tax, but not physically returned in France. It can happen on land taxes though : I got this year a return for several plots of vineyard damaged by hail at 90% in 2017. A 90% damage is a disaster for a winemaker, but the return was something like 30 Euros/ha
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@marlina (154166)
• Canada
8 Jun 18
Hard to believe that you forgot that you had already done your income tax return.
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@marlina (154166)
• Canada
13 Jun 18
@MALUSE My old age is not approaching anymore, it is HERE
@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
13 Jun 18
@marlina Oh! I hope it is behaving itself.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
8 Jun 18
Old age approaching!
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
8 Jun 18
So if Brexit pulls the UK completely back into the dark ages, moving to Germany might reinstil my faith in human nature... And after three years, I can get German citizenship, should I so desire. So what part of Germany, I wonder...?
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
8 Jun 18
Isn't your point of reference already somewhere in the Harz region? Goslar if I remember correctly?
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
8 Jun 18
@MALUSE No, the ailing Schwiegermutti is notionally in Braunschweig. And I'd need to follow the work, the demands of teenage children going to university are, well, demanding, I guess.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
8 Jun 18
@pgntwo You are a computer man, aren't you? I think finding work in this sector isn't so difficult. Everyone speaks English there.
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@mlgen1037 (29886)
• Manila, Philippines
8 Jun 18
Hi Maluse. I do not think you are losing it. Bureaucracy still have its charms.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
8 Jun 18
A well functioning state needs bueaucracy. If it isn't exaggerated, it is a good thing.
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@mlgen1037 (29886)
• Manila, Philippines
8 Jun 18
@MALUSE I agree with you on that.
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@GardenGerty (157551)
• United States
9 Jun 18
That is so weird that your paperwork is already there. My sister and I refer to having "automatic hands". We do things and our brain never seems to recognize it. It is not anything like this, though. It is the process of putting things away. So enjoy that the filling in has already been done. We have software that remembers stuff like that.
@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
9 Jun 18
The software in my brain didn't work properly! :-) The idea of having automatic hands is convincing. Especially with activities you do regularly. Sometimes you can't even remembre if you've already brushed your teeth or not. :-(
@AmbiePam (85492)
• United States
9 Jun 18
I am fascinated by Germany's history, the years of it being East and West. Could one move to West Germany if they were in East Germany, and vice versa? The first memory I have of news from Germany is when the wall came down. I also found out my dad's side of the family is largely German, but I didn't know that until later.
@AmbiePam (85492)
• United States
9 Jun 18
@MALUSE I can't wait to go look!
@amadeo (111948)
• United States
8 Jun 18
everything worked out okay for you there.
@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
8 Jun 18
I'm glad it did!
@rakski (112925)
• Philippines
8 Jun 18
Wow, you are quite popular! Not bad for the return!
@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
8 Jun 18
I don't get money back because I'm popular but because I pay a lot of taxes.
@xFiacre (12597)
• Ireland
8 Jun 18
@maluse Thanks for the timely reminder that I have not filled mine in yet. I have until 31 October and I know for a fact that I have not yet done so because I can see them looking at me accusingly from where I am sitting.
@xFiacre (12597)
• Ireland
8 Jun 18
@MALUSE No, I can definitely see it on my desk peeking out from the pile of papers on top of it.
@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
8 Jun 18
Are you sure you haven't handed in the form already and forgotten about it as it happened to me?
@garymarsh6 (23393)
• United Kingdom
12 Jun 18
Thankfully for me I never have to fill out such forms. I guess I will do once I retire.
@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
12 Jun 18
I don't understand this. Don't Brits in general fill out such forms? Or are you an exception? If so, why?
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
12 Jun 18
@garymarsh6 Same here! I was also a government employee as a teacher. Yet, we all have to do the tax thing.
@garymarsh6 (23393)
• United Kingdom
12 Jun 18
@MALUSE If you are self employed then you would have to but as I am a government employee it is done automatically so there is no need for me to do it.They know how much I earn I do not work for an agency or moonlight so my salary is constant and rarely changes!
@Starmaiden (9311)
• Canada
8 Jun 18
Maybe she/he was a former student of yours and recognised you by your name?
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@AlisaTR (936)
• Trinidad And Tobago
9 Jun 18
It's nice that you met a friendly lady who was willing to help you. Sounds efficient too. I wish more service providers could be like this. It can certainly make a tedious process less so.
@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
9 Jun 18
You're right. We're fortunate in this town. Craftspeople are also good here. They're reliable, come when they say they will come and they work well.
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@dodo19 (47066)
• Beaconsfield, Quebec
9 Jun 18
At least you did send them in, even though you don't remember doing it. Some individuals are really nice and helpful, when you have to call in.
@jstory07 (134460)
• Roseburg, Oregon
8 Jun 18
As long as you get money back all is good. Sometimes we just forget things. Have a good day.
@DianneN (246832)
• United States
13 Jun 18
Funny story, and as bad as my memory has been, I don't believe I'd forget having filed my taxes.
@just4him (306239)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
12 Jun 18
You got a good refund last year. I'm sure you were happy to learn you already filed this year and weren't late after all.
@JudyEv (325758)
• Rockingham, Australia
9 Jun 18
I guess it depends on the bureaucracy. Ours doesn't seem to be corrupt but they can take ages to get things done.
@YrNemo (20261)
9 Jun 18
Sounds a real mystery to me. How could you have done that form without remembering it, unless your details from last year tax got recorded for future use as in the case of pensioners in many other countries.