I am Retired. So How Do I Feel And What Do I Do?

university, lecture
@MALUSE (69413)
Germany
November 17, 2018 2:34pm CST
Today I want to tell you what it is like to be retired as I've experienced it for some years. I’ve never been overzealous or meticulous but now I enjoy procrastination to the full. I intend to do something, then I don’t feel like doing it or something hinders me. So what? Why put off 'till tomorrow what you can do today'? “Why not?“ is what I say now. No empty hours then? Sadly, not only retirement comes with old age but also afflictions. I don’t want to bore you with details. Suffice it to say that I've had my share. I'm now going to explain the German system of so-called guest-listeners or senior students at university. If you want to study regularly and pass an exam, you need to have passed your A-level exams at a secondary grammar school. Guest-listeners don't have to have any prior qualifications. They don't study in the real sense of the word but attend lectures or seminars just for pleasure. They don't pass any exams and get no diploma at the end. I've checked some universities in different parts of Germany. They all offer this. The guest-listeners pay a fee for the term and can attend *if there's room for them*. Of course, the real students come first. What do I attend? The different departments of the university inform the office responsible for the guest-listeners about the lectures and seminars which are 'open' for guests. I have no idea according to which criteria they're chosen. Every term there's a brochure with all these offers. Yet, once one has understood the system one can also go to seminars which aren't included and ask the lecturers if they mind if one attends. I've done this and up to now I haven't been sent away. I always try to find something where English is spoken. I've studied Australia with an Australian lecturer, Beat literature with an American one. All German lecturers talk English, too. This was not the case when I studied, but now it's the rule. Last term I attended a seminar on the literature of the Indian minority living in South Africa. This term I attend one on The American Family in Literature and Culture. I also go to lectures held in German, for example about the History of Research and Technology. It started last year with Stonehenge, Mesopotamia and Ancient Egypt. Now we've reached the period which is called Early Modern Times (~16/17th century). Next week we'll hear about Galileo and Kepler. I've been to Ovid's Metamorphoses, Medicine in Ancient Greece, Leonardo da Vinci, a comparison of New York and Los Angeles, etc. etc. I go to whatever tickles my fancy. I'm glad that I live near a university town which is only half an hour away by train. I’m in my tenth year at uni now (longer than the average student!) and learn new and interesting things every time I go there. The students don’t seem to feel molested by me (in some seminars I’m the only oldie). A former colleague asked me for how long I intended to do this. My answer was, "Until I fall off my chair."
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@xFiacre (12597)
• Ireland
17 Nov 18
@maluse An excellent way of actively being retired. This is a wonderful system you have. It doesn't really cost the university anything, and it helps retired people stay out of trouble!! I must be great choosing which lectures to attend, not having to attend the boring ones. without the pressure of learning to pass exams I'm sure that more is actually learned and retained. When I did my second degree (the theology one, not French) the subjects I excelled at were the ones that had no exams - Hebrew, Greek and of course Kierkegaard. May you have the opportunity to soak up much more learning.
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@xFiacre (12597)
• Ireland
17 Nov 18
@MALUSE There is one retired person who phones me regularly because he is bored, but has nothing to say - that is trouble. I intend taking up a musical instrument when I retire but that might annoy my wife.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
17 Nov 18
What trouble could retired people get into in your opinion?
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
17 Nov 18
@xFiacre You can choose one that doesn't make too much noise, for example a flute, the oboe or a guitar. If you have a cellar/basement with various rooms, you can beautify it and practise there. If you nail egg cartons to the wall, the sound is absorbed a bit.
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@allknowing (130064)
• India
18 Nov 18
I did not retire but gave up my job at the prime of my career. Just felt like doing something different, something that I enjoy doing. We went on a holiday my first foreign holiday, I learnt to swim, joined German classes, joined a computer class although what I learnt at that class was based on DOS and therefore of no use now. I started a business designing and executing landscaped gardens Last but not the least built my dream house Solitaire I love my life to the hilt. At the moment I reach out to the needy.
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@allknowing (130064)
• India
18 Nov 18
@MALUSE Thanks. The moral of the story. No one is going to make you happy. You have to create your own happiness.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
18 Nov 18
@allknowing That is certainly true.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
18 Nov 18
An interesting curriculum vitae.
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@vandana7 (98830)
• India
17 Nov 18
That is interesting curriculum. I just mentioned to dad today that I would like to study law. I could then take up pro bono cases. You sure inspire me and give me confidence that it can be done.
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@vandana7 (98830)
• India
17 Nov 18
@MALUSE Oh I see..that makes it even more interesting.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
17 Nov 18
This is not a curriculum. It wouldn't make sense to have all these topics together. I pick out lectures or seminars from what the different compartments of the university have to offer. I don't attend more than three a week. If I lived in the city where the university is, I'd go to more but as I have to go there by train, I have to check the timetable of the trains, too. In this term I attend only one seminar. I didn't find more that attracted my attention.
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• Austin, Texas
19 Dec 18
LOL. I love the answer you gave your colleague. That's how I feel about most things I approach in life. I like the idea of being able to attend lectures. However, my personal and family circumstances won't allow me to physically go to a university. I would be happy if the lectures were made available online. I have heard that some educators have united to try to make many courses available online all around the world; not just in Western countries, for anyone who wants to receive an education. Retirement is wonderful. That's what I've heard. I'm not retired. What happened was I resigned from a job and took my money out of retirement. My husband was supposed to use it for investing. He got sick. I was supposed to find another job. But then our country had an economic crisis and finding employment was not so easy. I worked some temp jobs for a while. I finally got tired of giving out my resume trying to get a permanent job. I decided to see if I could work from home and make money online. Other people said they were doing it and they were successful. Each day I don't know what my efforts will yield. But I get up each day determined to earn money and do something productive and profitable. I'm not going to sit at home doing nothing, whining about not being gainfully employed. I hired myself! When I started my online endeavors I soon found out there are a lot of people out there doing the same thing I'm doing.
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• Austin, Texas
19 Dec 18
@MALUSE - Mainly, blogging/freelance writing and affiliate marketing. Although my husband says that's not a real job. If it's not real how come other people are doing it too. It's a bunch of people online working fake jobs? There are lots of real legitimate online income opportunities.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
19 Dec 18
What kind of online job do you do if I may ask?
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@thelme55 (76476)
• Germany
18 Nov 18
Wow! That is very interesting. I didn't know that until now. Sad to say, university is far from where I live in Germany. I used to go to VHS just to have something to learn when I was still a full housewife. Housework can be so boring and learning something in the VHS was my pleasure. Retirement is good when one knows how to use the time with pleasure.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
18 Nov 18
So you have stopped going to the VHS? Have you got a job now?
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@thelme55 (76476)
• Germany
18 Nov 18
@MALUSE there was no interesting course for me to visit. I am still in my home country until Spring
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• United Kingdom
27 Dec 18
I retired from full-time employment just three months ago and I'm loving it! I have found so much to do that I don't know how I managed to fit in a job before
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
27 Dec 18
Congratulations! This is good to hear.
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@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
19 Nov 18
Wow, you still have the zest to study. Keep it up. As for me, the moment I had my first job, I didn't ever want to go even for further studies anymore. I was promoted to being the branch accountant in the bank by going to a 3 months Branch Officers Training Program. I have enough of being a mom, a wife and a career woman, so I hate studying anymore.
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@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
19 Nov 18
@MALUSE Yes, i know. But rhen, even if it's that i still don't like to anymore. I would just relax and do mylot or play games at my mobile
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
19 Nov 18
Maybe when you're retired, your attitude will change. Don't forget that I study for pleasure. I'm not going to take part in any exams.
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@Juliaacv (48447)
• Canada
2 Jan 19
I have always had poor health and missed a lot of time at work over the years, so as a result I want to work as long as I can.
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@Juliaacv (48447)
• Canada
2 Jan 19
@MALUSE Thanks, I push myself very hard physically, and I just fear that if I retire too early I won't push myself as hard and I don't want to be a burden physically.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
2 Jan 19
Wishing you the best for the future years!
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@amadeo (111948)
• United States
17 Nov 18
I so admired you on this.Wish I had the brain of your to do something like this.That is great.Ten years.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
17 Nov 18
It keeps me young!
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@amadeo (111948)
• United States
17 Nov 18
@MALUSE yes it does.same here.lol
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@Inlemay (17714)
• South Africa
29 Nov 18
I believe one should be as retired as one feels like
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@noni1959 (9886)
• United States
17 Nov 18
I retired this year and in addition to working with my special needs grandson, I volunteer, take classes and try to enjoy being outdoors more.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
17 Nov 18
Sounds good to me.
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@Kasjnak (4492)
• Romania
17 Nov 18
That's great! I love learning new things too, I like talking to people from all over the world, I like everything that keeps my mind working . Have fun and enjoy!
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
17 Nov 18
Thank you!
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@Nevena83 (65282)
• Serbia
18 Nov 18
They say that it's time to retire the most beautiful, because then you have time for things you really love. Unfortunately, I did not study, but I wanted to study psychology.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
18 Nov 18
Have you got the opportunity of attending courses at uni like I do even if you are not a real student?
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@Nevena83 (65282)
• Serbia
18 Nov 18
@MALUSE Yes, in my country there is a possibility to attend courses, but everything is paid, and I am a single mother and I have no opportunity to pay.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
18 Nov 18
@Nevena83 You can inform yourself if there is a reduction or if you can attend without paying at all because of your situation. It doesn't cost anything to ask! You never know what the answer will be if you don't ask.
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@Acefun (1220)
• Malaysia
28 Dec 18
It is good that you keep learning even you have retired. At least you keep your brain working. This can prevent yourself from having Alzheimer or Parkinson. Next time, bring along your friends so that they can be your study mates. I have one question. Does the guest-listener is just to enhance student knowledge on the courses that they are studying? If it is not compulsory, I guess most of the students will be skipping it.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
28 Dec 18
I'm ready to answer your question but I must confess that I don't understand what you're asking me. Can you please explain precisely what you want to know? Re Alzheimers and Parkinson: Sadly, this is a myth. One of the most brilliant minds in Germany, a university professor of Philology and General Rhetoric got dementia. Nobody could do more thinking than he did. It didn't help. Up to now no remedy has been found to avoid such diseases.
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@GardenGerty (157555)
• United States
18 Nov 18
These are wonderful and interesting choices. Some universities and colleges here are set up for seniors to "audit" the classes. It sounds much the same. My mom did one or two writing classes.
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@marguicha (215441)
• Chile
18 Nov 18
I did something like that for a long time. But then I had to take care of being alive and that implied that the only place I could go was to the hospital for a long time. Then everything changed.
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@valmnz (17099)
• New Zealand
18 Nov 18
That sounds truly wonderful. Good on you! I think we have some sort of similar system here, but until now I haven't looked into it. I do belong to an organisation called U3A, University of the Third Age, where for a small fee retired people can belong to interest groups of our choice. I currently belong to Memoir Writing and Local History.
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@LadyDuck (458192)
• Switzerland
18 Nov 18
The only free course for adults at a walking distance from home is Modern Greek, I am not interested. I participated several times to the "Agrarian Lessons" hosted at our local Town Hall to learn how to start a compost, how to recycle garden waste, grow the plants, invasive species and so on. This keeps me active.
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@acelawrites (19273)
• Philippines
18 Nov 18
That's interesting! You'll always be busy and not get bore being a retiree. Do what makes you happy.
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@florelway (23141)
• Cagayan De Oro, Philippines
18 Nov 18
You are retired but not tired I suppose.
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