They Shoot Their Wives, Don’t They?

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@FourWalls (63130)
United States
January 4, 2023 7:33pm CST
New day, new song, new rabbit hole. Today I used the Oscar-winning song “For All We Know” from the film Lovers and Other Strangers. A lot of you who know the song may be completely unaware of the fact that the song, popularized by the Carpenters, was even in a movie. And, as I mentioned earlier, it was released when I was a kid and an R-rated movie, so there was no chance I was going to see it. The film had an ensemble cast of then-relatively unknowns, including Bea Arthur (who later went on to fame in Maude and The Golden Girls), Cloris Leachman, Richard S. Castellano (who’d later become well known for his role as Peter Clemenza in The Godfather); and, in her first role, Castellano’s future Godfather co-star Diane Keaton. Heck, even Sylvester Stallone had a small, uncredited role in it. (And no, he did NOT say “yo!” ) The biggest name, at the time, was probably Gig Young. Young, born Byron Barr, was a two-time Oscar nominee (1952 and 1959) before he won the Best Supporting Actor Academy Award in 1969 for the film They Shoot Horses, Don’t They? in which he played the dance marathon emcee. Less than ten years after his greatest triumph he would be dead, by his own hand. Young had a longstanding problem with alcohol. His second wife was future Bewitched star Elizabeth Montgomery, and she divorced him because of his alcoholism in 1963. After his victory for They Shoot Horses, Don’t They?, the critical acclaim of Lovers and Other Strangers, and an Emmy nomination for The Neon Ceiling, Young’s life should have been improving. Instead, he went on a downward spiral that is just about as tragic as you can get. Had Young been able to hold his liquor, the film Blazing Saddles might have been much different. He was originally signed to play “The Waco Kid.” The first scene that Mel Brooks filmed with Young was the scene where the Waco Kid wakes up, hanging upside down in the cell, and sees Sheriff Bart. When Young was put in that position for filming, he was so drunk that he vomited and passed out. Young’s agent told Brooks that Young was “a recovering alcoholic,” to which Brooks reportedly replied, “He hasn’t recovered enough,” and fired Young. The role went to Gene Wilder. (Blazing Saddles co-writer Richard Pryor didn’t get the role as Bart for a similar reason, although Pryor’s problem was cocaine. ) Later, Young was slated for the role as Charlie on Charlie’s Angels, but, again, his alcoholism cost him the job that went to John Forsythe. On September 28, 1978 Young married for the fifth time. Three weeks later, he shot his new wife to death, then turned the gun on himself. He didn’t leave a suicide note explaining why. He was 64, his murdered wife was 31. What could have been. Here’s Gig Young’s acceptance speech for his Oscar:
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@RebeccasFarm (87062)
• United States
5 Jan 23
I know the name Gig Young I do. I had no idea how he had shot his wife and himself though. How terrible and that booze is a killer alright. Thanks Four Walls for this..and I do not see his acceptance speech.
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@FourWalls (63130)
• United States
5 Jan 23
It’s about as terrible as a story can be. Too many stories end like that instead of the stereotypical “Hollywood ending.” I made sure I put the right clip up (I’ve made that mistake before). It starts out with Katherine Ross announcing the nominees.
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• United States
5 Jan 23
@FourWalls Okay thanks Four Walls, Ill take a look now at the clip Yeah that is as bad as it gets alright.
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• United States
5 Jan 23
@FourWalls Yeah he was a bit out of breath there too..so sad
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@BarBaraPrz (45842)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
5 Jan 23
How do you get from Byron to Gig...
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@BarBaraPrz (45842)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
5 Jan 23
@FourWalls Byron would be more of a stage actor's name.
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@FourWalls (63130)
• United States
5 Jan 23
Lots of bad “gigs” as Byron, I guess.
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@marguicha (217029)
• Chile
5 Jan 23
So many celebrity lives end up tragically, one way or the other. Being a celebrity takes its toll.
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@FourWalls (63130)
• United States
5 Jan 23
You look at how many celebrities destroyed themselves and it almost makes you wonder how anyone survives that rat race!
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@marguicha (217029)
• Chile
5 Jan 23
@FourWalls Exactly. Celebrities and Kings are not the kind of job you want to have if you think about it.
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@JudyEv (328279)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 Jan 23
As you say, that's very tragic story.
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@JudyEv (328279)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 Jan 23
@FourWalls We know a few too. You really have to admire them. It can't be an easy vice to give up.
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@spiderdust (14741)
• San Jose, California
5 Jan 23
I loved Gene Wilder in the Waco kid role (and just about any role he did, honestly), but I do wonder what Gig Young might have been like in it. Although when you mentioned the Waco kid, my brain first thought of his role in The Frisco Kid, but that's altogether different.
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@FourWalls (63130)
• United States
5 Jan 23
I liked The Frisco Kid, but a lot of people didn’t.
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@spiderdust (14741)
• San Jose, California
5 Jan 23
@FourWalls I liked it too!
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@dgobucks226 (34620)
14 Jan 23
That was a terrific post with oodles of insightful tidbits I remember "They Shoot Horses Don't They." What an equally terrific cast (Red Buttons, Jane Fonda, Michael Sarrazin, Susannah York). Sadly, many Hollywood actors fall victim to the bottle, don't they? Robert Downey Jr., Robert Young, Richard Burton, John Barrymore and Drew, and Errol Flynn to name just a few examples. Had no idea he auditioned for Blazing Saddles
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@FourWalls (63130)
• United States
14 Jan 23
You have to cheer people like John Hiatt (“I used to drink a lot in those days…these days the only bar I ever see has got lettuce and tomatoes”) who conquer the demon. Far too many time the bottle wins the war.
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@RasmaSandra (74707)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
5 Jan 23
I think I might only have seen Gig Young in one or two movies. His life story sounds like something out of a Hitchcock movie, Did they ever make a movie out of this horror?
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@FourWalls (63130)
• United States
6 Jan 23
No, they haven’t made a movie out of it. He wasn’t the only one, sadly.
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@LindaOHio (160548)
• United States
5 Jan 23
What a tragic story.
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@FourWalls (63130)
• United States
5 Jan 23
Yeah, that’s so tragic I’m surprised they haven’t made a movie about it.
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@jejes6 (6)
• Bogor, Indonesia
2 Feb 23
Litterly i don’t know about the actor and the gig young’s. I think now i must follow about it