The Catalyst That Started A Resignation

@porwest (78759)
United States
January 23, 2024 8:40am CST
As most of you are probably aware, I left my job on July 18th, 2023. Call it retirement, a hiatus or whichever word you find that fits. But on July 18th I handed in my resignation effective immediately after 10 years with the company I worked for. There were many reasons I came to this conclusion that this was the right decision for me, and I decided to share some of those reasons here with you. This is an installment. The thing is, this site sometimes serves as both a place to share things amongst friends, but also serves as a place that can be an outlet. Sometimes things weigh heavily on our chests, and you just have to let them out. You need a sense of closure. Among friends here, it can provide a great opportunity to share perspectives and talk things through. My decision to leave did not start with this thing that happened that I will talk about in this installment. It was but one thing among many. But it was certainly a strong catalyst in helping me to make my final decision. Let's just say it was a very revealing moment that opened my eyes to many more things. It set the wheels in motion in a real way for the first time for what would ultimately follow. Had this moment not happened to begin a thought process, July 18th may not have happened in the way that it did. We were lied to. A co-worker and I were the two salesmen in the office, and it was determined we needed some assistance with administrative things and paperwork, and it would be useful to have that person also do some inside sales work. Because the person being hired would not be in "sales" necessarily in the same capacity as us, they would not be paid a commission like we were paid. That person would receive a wage of $20 an hour. We all agreed this person could be paid more because the job she would do would have very different parameters than ours. It is worth noting that my base wage was $12.50, and my co-worker's base wage was $13.50. We were also paid a 15% sales commission and managed our own customers. Within the first week. Within the first week of hiring the individual, that person was suddenly thrust into more of a sales role. Within a few short weeks accounts began to be handed out and there were the beginnings of discussions to assign certain territories to her. We were also told that we may have to evaluate our own territories and make potential future decisions about giving them up for her to work. At the same time, a commission of 10% was added to her compensation package almost immediately and she was assigned a sales number. This action went against everything in the way of how we are paid. It was completely contrary to what we had discussed when we had all gotten together to consider bringing another employee in. It was also contrary to where we had to start when we were hired. The question among my co-worker and I was, "Wait a minute. What's going on here? Something's not right." I kept quiet. I mostly went along with it. I had immediate issues with the idea of her being paid as much as she was being paid, now with commissions on top of the package. I had issues with the prospect of giving up territory or even individual accounts. Remember, this was never part of the deal. This was not what we hired her for. This was why she would be paid more. The fact that it was happening so fast with no experience was also an issue. My co-worker and I did have extensive private conversations about it very early on. But, however rare it is for me to do, I kept mostly quiet about my thoughts or the discussions my co-worker and I were having. At some point we considered that we would have to bring it up, but we wanted to give things time and see how things further developed first. "Let's see what happens and see how this goes forward," we discussed. We didn't want to necessarily jump to any conclusions. Why was her pay package such a hot area of contention? The reason (or justification) for our low hourly rate was because we were paid on commission mostly, and commissions more than made up for the lack of a better wage on the front end. Keep in mind that I had going on 10 years of experience with the company and had grown my sales revenue to roughly $1 million a year with year over year growth of revenue and profits of 22%-25%. I had experience and I had a proven track record of success. The problem. It was a slap in the face. For years we were told, "If you want more money, sell more stuff. That's how you get a raise." Yet, we hired someone who had never done sales. Someone with absolutely no experience in our business. And we immediately paid them almost twice our own wages and then offered a commission on top of that—with the prospect of breaking up some territories in order to give her a boost. Meaning, even more money. For her. There was no talk of increasing our commissions. There was no talk of increasing our hourly base wages. In our minds we thought, "Didn't we just change the way we're paying sales people? How come we didn't get the memo on that?" Moreover, the prospect that she would be paid twice as much and have the prospect of getting more and more accounts and earning a commission on top of that—there was no doubt in my mind that if she showed successful growth, her commission would also eventually match ours. 15%. And then there was just me. I won't get into the details of why my co-worker was fired. I will just say that he was. And following that, there were closed door meetings between the manager and I about what we would do next. It was determined that his accounts would need to be "redistributed" in a way that they could still be maintained. It was my assumption that I would get a handful of those accounts considering my proven track record of sales growth and my experience. It was a consideration at the time that taking on new accounts would boost at least my commissions significantly enough that the gap between my hourly rate and hers would be less of an issue. Besides, who would you trust better to deal with established accounts? Someone with 10 years of experience? Someone with annual growth of 22%-25%? Or someone who had no experience at all, and no proven track record of sales to speak of? It made sense to me, at the time, that I would obtain a good number of those accounts. After all, in my mind, hadn't I earned them? Didn't my proven track record show that I could manage them well? And grow them? That did not happen. The manager kept some of the higher dollar amount accounts for himself, which made sense to me for him to do. However, in another closed door meeting I was informed that it was finally determined that most of the other accounts would go to the now new sales person. I might get one or two, but the bulk of what was left would go her way. Wait a minute. What? "This will help to give her some padding," he told me. It was the first time I spoke up. "Padding?" I said. "She already makes twice as much as me on the hourly. Who needs padding? And she gets a commission too?" My feeling. Whether it was right or wrong, I felt slighted and unappreciated in that moment. How did my experience not account for anything? How did my sales numbers not mean anything? And why was there still no discussion of bumping my hourly pay if, as was apparently the case, the rules were suddenly changed regarding how we were paid? It is a rare feeling for me. But I was literally dumfounded. The words rang in my ears once more that I had heard so many times before. If you want more money, sell more stuff. Suddenly those words had no meaning. It was no longer true. With no experience and no track record, you could actually get more. At the time I did not feel like I was being pushed out. Quite the contrary. But I certainly felt this was a very wrong move on my manager's part. Maybe he had a plan? I doubted it. To be honest, I don't know what he was thinking. Was he thinking? This made sense to him? In my thought process when he walked out of my office that day, I was absolutely perplexed. You just gave another raise to someone who had not yet earned it and left me sitting there to pick up my own pieces—thank you very much. It changed my entire perspective in that moment. It begged the question, "Why am I here?"
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14 responses
• Nairobi, Kenya
23 Jan
Sorry you had to go through all that. There is a quote I remember:" if you think you can or if you think you can't, you are right". Well to finally decide to resign is s decision you thought over for a long time. So you did the right thing. I've ever done sales job for just two months and I quit.
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@porwest (78759)
• United States
24 Jan
I didn't mind the sales. In fact I enjoyed the challenge of it. And of course it was also really good money, and you mostly had charge of how much you wanted to make. But when it came to the hourly thing and the parameters set, and then those were changed with no benefit to me... It was just a huge slap in the face for me.
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• Nairobi, Kenya
24 Jan
@porwest I hope you feel appreciated in any other job you will do.
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@porwest (78759)
• United States
26 Jan
@mildredtabitha I don't plan on ever working again. lol. We'll see how that goes, but that's my plan anyway.
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@marguicha (216136)
• Chile
23 Jan
I´m so very sorry. I could only mutter foul words in Spanish under my breath as I read what had happened to you. I hope that as you know a lot about your finances, you´ll be able to manage your own economy in a good way. I hope they miss you very much. It´s their loss.
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@porwest (78759)
• United States
23 Jan
Had my financial situation been different, I would certainly have been forced to make a different choice. It's one of the things I preach all the time about the freedoms money allows to be your own person and not be forced to do things just because you have no other choice. Or to allow yourself to be undervalued or otherwise at someone else's whims. I view myself in any job not so much as an employee, but more like a partner. This incident was a breach of that partnership. It was a breach of trust. It was a breach of respect. It opened a question for me that otherwise may not have been asked. The events that occurred on the 17th and 18th were far worse, far more enlightening, and for me the deal was sealed. I will write about that soon. Sorry it was such a long post, but I had to get it out and the story simply couldn't be told in just a few paragraphs. Thanks for reading and commenting.
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@marguicha (216136)
• Chile
23 Jan
@porwest I´m sure that not every lotter is a close friend. But I do care about you and I am glad that you had the economic freedom to make a good choice although I know that anyway it hurts. And don´t worry about the lenght of your post. Even if you have one reader, it is enough. I know that because in my native language I´m a writer.
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@jstory07 (134815)
• Roseburg, Oregon
24 Jan
It sure is their loss.
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@Fleura (29245)
• United Kingdom
23 Jan
You're right, that made no sense at all. You would have been better off leaving and then re-applying as a newbie, getting a better hourly rate and not having to work as hard. Glad you were able to get away.
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@porwest (78759)
• United States
23 Jan
It was just a real slap in the face. Quite surprising honestly. Unfortunately, the rest of the story is much worse. I will be writing about it soon. This was probably maybe 6 months before I quit. Can't remember, but I am sure that's about right.
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@JudyEv (326517)
• Rockingham, Australia
23 Jan
I can understand your feelings and I'm not surprised that you decided to leave. That is no way to treat a long-time employee.
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@JudyEv (326517)
• Rockingham, Australia
9 Feb
@porwest I'll watch out for it.
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@porwest (78759)
• United States
8 Feb
No. It's not. And it wasn't. At the same time, I tend to try to find the positive in negative things, and the positive here was that I realized how much I was wasting my time. I mean, the money I made was awesome, don't get me wrong. But how many other pursuits that could have made me much more did I put on hold in the meantime while I sat there for 10 years thinking I had value or that I mattered? The thing that happened the day before and the day OF my actual resignation is MUCH worse. Almost unbelievable, and I am still scratching my head quite a bit over it. It makes this slight in this post look like nothing compared. Trust me. I will get to writing it soon, but it will be another rather long one and I may have to break it into two parts. We'll see.
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• China
23 Jan
You must be very angry when such a thing happens. Many companies do not value their old employees, they value their new employees more. We even have some companies here that only recruit people under the age of 40.
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@porwest (78759)
• United States
23 Jan
I am not certain anger is what I feel, or felt at the time, as much as disappointment. You know, it goes along with that age old idea that you work hard, you make money for people, you do good work and achieve results, and someone appreciates it. That it pays off. That you grow in the level of confidence and support that your employer has for you. When you essentially get tossed aside or marginalized, for whatever reason, particularly when it is not earned, it is never a good feeling. I had to work for what I had. This person would come right in the door and automatically be in a place in a few short years that took me 10 years to build. It wasn't right. And it changed my entire perspective which ultimately, a few short months later, helped me to make a decision. How many times in the past had I not made a change because I couldn't find reasonable justification? Many. This moment in time finally offered a reason and sort of confirmed for me that many of the feelings I had before it were actually real.
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@Beestring (13428)
• Hong Kong
23 Jan
I am so sorry to learn about the treatment you got from the company you've worked for ten years. That was absolutely unacceptable. You've made the right decision.
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@porwest (78759)
• United States
23 Jan
It definitely was the right decision. Of course, there is more to the story that I will be posting soon. The treatment in the end was MUCH worse and an EVEN BIGGER revelation. Stay tuned.
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@jstory07 (134815)
• Roseburg, Oregon
24 Jan
To hire someone with out sale experience and to give them more an hour plus commissions just seems so wrong. Something just not make sense here. Is she the girl friend of one of the bosses.
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@porwest (78759)
• United States
29 Jan
No. But there is a long story behind that which I may or may not bring into the conversation nor the follow up post. Personal reasons. But there was no hanky panky or anything like that, rest assured. His decision was absolutely off base and inappropriate, though. That I CAN say. And a very bad decision on his part. The decision he made certainly did not help his cause. In his mind maybe it did. But I don't really get the impression he really knows the true consequences of his actions. He may find out one day. Or then again maybe he won't. Who knows? There are some people who can be complete tools and still manage to skate through life anyway. He has always been one of those guys able to make a living off the back of someone else's success. And he is VERY good at BSing his way through a lot of things. He's got the president of the company completely hoodwinked.
@1creekgirl (40640)
• United States
24 Jan
I can't believe what your manager was doing to you. My first thought was who is she "dating?" It's hard to work for a company that long and be so irrationally and unfairly treated. I retired three years early because we were on the Titanic and we weren't getting any of the lifeboats.
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@1creekgirl (40640)
• United States
2 Feb
@porwest Your posts are always interesting, long or short.
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@porwest (78759)
• United States
2 Feb
No dating situation here. But certainly, he made the wrong decision in more ways than one. The situation that finalized my resignation was far more enlightening, and far worse than this. Not sure when I will write about it. But I think it's a doozie. Unfortunately, it will be another rather long post. lol
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@porwest (78759)
• United States
5 Feb
@1creekgirl Thank you. I really do appreciate that. Especially considering how much "crap" I post. lol
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@moffittjc (118691)
• Gainesville, Florida
24 Jan
Man, this is only the first installment and I can already see how badly you were wronged.
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@Dena91 (15927)
• United States
24 Jan
I completely understand why this was part of the reasoning for your resignation. I quit one place for a similar reason. The company was sold to another. When the new owners came in, they said our jobs were safe, we wouldn't have a pay loss, we'd keep our insurance program. Within a month everyone took a minimum dollar/ hour pay cut and less insurance. I quit on the spot, as did about a 1/4 of the workers. Within 6 months the plant closed its doors.
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24 Jan
I'm so sorry about the injustice that was done to you and your co-worker. That place has become toxic in a way it has caused some anxiety and sadness. Your decision to resign is the right move. With your caliber, there are many other companies out there that might be hiring. And you would land in one of them.
@LindaOHio (157813)
• United States
24 Jan
I understand the whole situation more than you can know. It was entirely unfair; and I don't think I could have remained silent for as long as you did. At my last job I was given the highest position in the company next to my boss. All of a sudden my training stopped; and I found out that they were going to bring in my boss's niece to take my job. I went in and confronted my boss...when were you going to tell me? It was already done; and the only choice I had was to leave. I chose not to because I had planned on retiring from this company; and I was making good money 3 miles from home. They DID NOT change my salary; so that was one good thing. But they eventually made the company go bankrupt so that they could be bought out by another company. There was a lot of illegal things that they did which I won't bore you with. I ended up getting let go, came back at a lesser job; and then let go again when they went bankrupt....they kept me on until Christmas Eve. Wasn't that a wonderful gift? I went on a few interviews BUT I had already applied for disability. It came through after 6 months; and I was officially retired. Because the company did not pay for medical insurance (they were delinquent on the bill and I paid over $1,000 which I never got back), I was unable to get on COBRA and had to pay sky-high medical for 2 years before I could get on Medicare. I won't bore you with any more...Sorry this is so long..
@dgobucks226 (34449)
27 Jan
Wow, you have a right to be perplexed about this whole thing. Did you ever find out why their was all the sudden policy changes when she was hired? Something is rotten in Denmark. Or in this case your former place of business?
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@dgobucks226 (34449)
28 Jan
@porwest interesting take on it. To give so much responsibility to a new hire makes no sense. And in the process, he disrespected you and your colleague. Rash decisions eventually have consequences.
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@porwest (78759)
• United States
30 Jan
@dgobucks226 On top of everything else, NOT that he was a bad salesman, per se. But my colleague and I absolutely carried the branch. The guy who was there before who eventually went on to run the Arizona branch ALSO, I believe carried him before the two of us entered into the picture. That became apparent when the Arizona branch opened up and he made a proposal to the president to run it, and unfortunately it never made any progress at all until his first salesman went there and more than doubled sales. I think if the company president dug deeper into our branch's numbers, he may have a different opinion of our branch manager's ability to "run" things. Because he'd have a better picture of who actually made money for the branch. Now that the three of us are no longer there, I have a strong inclination numbers may be suffering, and unfortunately he has an excuse to suggest, "We're working through the 'new' situation," and the president will be naive enough to buy it. He has an uncanny ability to hire successful, qualified people and then take the credit for the success it generates.
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@porwest (78759)
• United States
28 Jan
My former boss was not really much of a thinker. And that's not me trying to be mean or trying to grind an axe. It's my honest assessment of his "style" and "character." He rarely REALLY thought things through or ever truly considered the unintended consequences of his ideas or plans. And a lot of the time it was just something that popped into his head he got excited about that usually had other "consequences." A lot of the time an idea rarely lasted long before he was onto his next thing to be excited about. After a while you just got used to it and went along for the ride, KNOWING it would be a short one anyway. lol
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• United States
23 Jan
You made the right decision! I get the feeling that there is more going on between the manager and the new "Gal" than just work. With the way the "redistributing" had gone, it would end up that you would end up owing the business money and the new person directly. Of course it could also be a plan on the new gal's part...she may have seen the manager as easily manipulated on her part and went on from there. The thing is, depending on what you are, "with no experience and no track record you CAN get more". You just don't have the right equipment for the "more". Now, just keep in mind that the manager is going to realize his mistake way too late, and you're going to be fortunate to have gotten out of the quagmire. Now just stand back and watch the dust fly. You received horrible treatment as payment for your ten years of service, and I am sorry for it and am so sorry for the pain you must feel. I recognize the pain as the pain I felt when I was removed from service from the company I worked for. It was only for two years, but it was hard, constant, painful work that resulted in my being disabled for the rest of my life. I wake every morning with pain in my neck and shoulders, sick to my stomach from the pain, and having problems walking from the injuries. One day, while on the job, I was called back to the back room to see the manager. I was accused of stealing $10 from the register, $10 that I had just written a check for-for the cash. At the point that I had written the check for cash I was wearing both a neck brace and an arm brace from the on-the-job injuries. I had reported the accident, and they never took me to the E.R... The inspection team from the main office had come down, seen me in my braces, and told the boss to find a way to get rid of me. I was livid! I ended up suing and winning. The store chain ended up going belly up. It seems like bosses find ways to turn horrible to their loyal employees, and even more horrible ways to force their employees to quit. After all if they fire you they have to pay you unemployment, and heaven forbid that they have to find a justifiable reason for firing you that will exempt them from paying you the unemployment matching funds, and heaven forbid that they have to pay the unemployment funds. So, in two ways, you have saved yourself a LOT of problems and grief. First, you got out of a horrible situation without losing more money, and secondly you resigned without the manager coming up with a lie for firing you and putting a blot on your spotless ten-year record in case you look for further employment. The blots are hard to remove and even harder to explain away without sounding like a feeble attempt to try to clear an untruth. So, like I said earlier, you have saved yourself a lot of grief in the long run, but I do sympathize though agree with your leaving the job after 10 years.
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