A sad moment at Guitar Center today.

@TheHorse (205938)
Walnut Creek, California
March 23, 2024 10:50pm CST
My student, Ava, was struggling to read "grown-up notes" this morning. I sometimes write the notes out of the staff as letters, to make it easier on kids when they first start. I gradually encourage them to read real notes. But her daddy wanted me to use more real (grown-up) notes, and to teach her more "theory." I noticed this morning that Ava was not smiling as she usually is when we do our lessons. She seemed stressed. At one point I think she was wiping away tears, as she was frustrated with herself. I am going to go back to using letters to make things more "fun" for her. I want music to be a means of joyous self-expression, not a search for "perfection." Ava is 7-years-old.
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@moffittjc (118492)
• Gainesville, Florida
24 Mar
Oh yes, don't kill her joy and love of music. Let her have fun with it. She'll eventually learn the grown-up notes.
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@moffittjc (118492)
• Gainesville, Florida
24 Mar
@TheHorse I loved music when I was little, and we had music classes when I was in grade school, but I struggled because I did not understand the grown-up notes at all.
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@TheHorse (205938)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Mar
@moffittjc One can play music without ever reading a grown-up music note. Many of my kids can hear something and play it in a couple of tries. The bluegrass musician's response to the question, "Can you read music?" is: "Yes, but not well enough to hurt my playing."
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@TheHorse (205938)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Mar
Yep. Next week is going to be pure fun.
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• United States
24 Mar
Through the hundreds and thousands of years music was a form of communication and expression. It was NOT a requirement for the person participating to be perfect. Ava's father reminds me of my parents at times. They would want me to be perfect in certain activities, and the more that they lectured me on being "PERFECT" the more I grew to hate the activity. I reached the point that I wouldn't participate in that activity for anything. In fact that's how I nearly lost one of my front teeth. My father wanted me to learn how to water ski, I couldn't see the purpose of racing around on the water, being towed by a boat at a high rate of speed, on one or two boards strapped to one's feet. The final straw was when my father had me strap the skis to my feet, hold on to the rope, and he hit the throttle so the boat took off at a huge amount of speed, a larger amount than anyone normally would have used for anything. He jerked me into the air and I landed head first into the water. One of the skis came off and hit me in the mouth. There were five men that came swimming to "rescue" me (my father yelled at them to go back that the 'fat idiot' wasn't hurt) fortunately they didn't listen and helped me back to shore. Part of my front tooth had been knocked out and I was bleeding from a cut that the ski had made inside my mouth. When my father came back to shore and saw the dental damage he was heard to say "That's okay, she's too fat anyway, this will cause her to loose a LOT of weight that she needs to lose. She's acting like she's really hurt badly." The other four men had to hold the fifth guy back because he wanted to deck my father. Talk to the father and try to get it across to him that the girl is only 7 years old and only learning. When you're only learning you aren't going to be perfect and are very likely, under pressure like she is experiencing, to hate music and everything involved with it. Let the sweetheart learn at her own speed!!! Shoot, there is a lot that she is still learning anyhow. Music, above all, should be fun and something that she loves rather than a chore and something to stress over and hate.
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@TheHorse (205938)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Mar
@BearArtistLady You made me laugh again. Thanks. "I kept hoping they would tow him into a buoy, but it never happened."
• United States
24 Mar
@TheHorse: Father didn't mellow with age, in fact he got worse. I didn't visit them much although I lived about 75 miles away from them. His comment was always "Why didn't you do it right the first time?" When we tried doing something for the first time; but when he had something go wrong and we used the same comment, he blew sky high and yelled at us "This is the first time I have ever done this!!!" I'm glad you enjoyed the comment about water skiing. I couldn't see the point to it, and never could. Father loved it and would go for it anytime someone offered to take him on a "run". I kept hoping they would tow him into a buoy, but it never happened.
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@kareng (54894)
• United States
24 Mar
I agree, music should be fun for her and not something to stress over!!
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@TheHorse (205938)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Mar
We'll see what happens next weekend.
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@kareng (54894)
• United States
24 Mar
@TheHorse Hopefully the parent does not intervene again. That could ruin this child's enjoyment of music!
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@TheHorse (205938)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Mar
@kareng I agree. I'm going back to simple songs using letters until she gets used to the keyboard. And I'm going to "compose" a simple and fun song for her.
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@Shavkat (137212)
• Philippines
24 Mar
I think you are on the right track of teaching her.
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@TheHorse (205938)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Mar
I am going to get back to doing what I do best--making music enjoyable.
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@Shavkat (137212)
• Philippines
25 Mar
@TheHorse I think that it is a great thing to do.
@LadyDuck (458522)
• Switzerland
24 Mar
I am sorry she was not as happy as she usually is. May be she had an argument with her Dad.
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@LadyDuck (458522)
• Switzerland
24 Mar
@TheHorse I think so, she wants to have fun and her Dad is too demanding.
@TheHorse (205938)
• Walnut Creek, California
25 Mar
@LadyDuck I hope next week goes according to plan.
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@TheHorse (205938)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Mar
I wondered if she had had an argument with her dad as well. And then I was being more "demanding" at her last lesson. She may have felt "helpless."
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@JudyEv (325929)
• Rockingham, Australia
24 Mar
Perhaps you can make her father see the point of Ava needing to enjoy her music.
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@TheHorse (205938)
• Walnut Creek, California
25 Mar
@JudyEv Maybe I'll get through to him through her renewed joy at taking lessons.
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@TheHorse (205938)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Mar
I might say something like "I want to make sure he's having fun. I want her to love music all her llfe."
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@JudyEv (325929)
• Rockingham, Australia
25 Mar
@TheHorse Hopefully you'll find some way to get through to him.
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@GardenGerty (157598)
• United States
24 Mar
Things like "theory" are more appetizing when they slip in sideways, indirectly. She needs the joy.
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@TheHorse (205938)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Mar
Exactly. I sneak "theory" in my lessons with statements like "We can play Mary Had a Little Lamb in C or in G. Wherever we want!"
@AmbiePam (85584)
• United States
24 Mar
Her dad needs to butt out. Good for you for going back to what should be done.
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@TheHorse (205938)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Mar
Yep. I'm going to get back to being "developmentally appropriate."
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@wolfgirl569 (95350)
• Marion, Ohio
24 Mar
It should be fun. She will get the rest over time
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@RasmaSandra (73506)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
24 Mar
At one time back in Latvia my hubby was interested to learn piano notes. I chose simple songs he knew and wrote out the notes on note paper and then he played by one finger and recognized the song then then I pointed out the notes to him and soon he realized that learning notes on the piano was like learning to read by alphabet,
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@noni1959 (9885)
• United States
24 Mar
I hope she builds confidence with your gentle patience with her.
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@TheHorse (205938)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Mar
Thank you. I'll give it my best shot next weekend.
@JESSY3236 (18923)
• United States
26 Mar
Yeah music should fun not a chore.
@LindaOHio (156498)
• United States
24 Mar
A 7-year-old shouldn't have to experience stress. I'm glad you're going to use letters for her again. Have a good week.
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@TheHorse (205938)
• Walnut Creek, California
24 Mar
Yeppers I am going to "rebel" a bit and get back to making music fun for her.
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