about today`s admin notice about spamposts bringing down our ratings
By shmeedia
@shmeedia (1044)
Canada
December 14, 2006 3:16pm CST
Mylot said: Unaware that these discussions are plagiarized, many users contribute to these discussions. When we delete the plagiarized discussions of user XYZ, our system also deletes the non-offending responses and comments to these discussions. When this happens, user ratings go down the next time each user makes a post, as user ratings are re-calculated. (...) Any comments or suggestions are welcome.
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33 responses
@misskatonic (3723)
• United States
14 Dec 06
I definitely agree. I just report spam posts if I catch them. It stinks that people out there don't care at all and are willing to bring the site down just to make a few pennies. How pathetic can people get, seriously? It's not that hard to think up your own responses and discussions.
I'm just glad Mylot is getting on top of the problem. I wish more people would pay attention to the alerts and rules. It would make things a lot smoother around here!
@hassei_takano (1411)
• Indonesia
15 Dec 06
ah I agree with you. Because it's pissing me up while I already open some hread with hard work (With my slow conection I need 15-30 minutes to open one discusion) and it is only spam or worst plagiarsm. T_____T
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@Victoria7 (1240)
• Spain
14 Dec 06
I normally don´t respond to a discussion which doesn´t capture my interest but am dismayed to see my money and ratings have gone down when I have tried consistently only to post quality discussions. I agree myLot can´t remove only the posts which break the rules because then the replies to that post would make no sense. I guess it´s just irritating that some spammers and general idiots try to spoil things for everyone else. Hopefully the new system will sort them out.
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@shmeedia (1044)
• Canada
15 Dec 06
so in this here example, will my original topic be removed when this user/abuser's posts are deleted?
it's unfair to the rest of us here who have been participating correctly!
there must be a way mylot can 'block' the part of the thread which has been spammed to, in order to disallow further comment...or something else other than deleting a legitimate discussion because ONE LOSER decided to ruin it for the rest of us.
@megs85 (3142)
• Australia
15 Dec 06
I think that your idea to totally bypass the discussion and then to rate it is a great idea. Someone in an earlier post mentioned that most of us do that anyway,I know I do for one. :D I think even prior to the guidelines being introduced we were all aware that responding to and posting dud discussions (spam, nonsense, incoherent, etc) wasnt contributing anything and would not be paid. My earnings havent been affected as such, so far... I think they have actually increased :S Not complaining...lol
@maddog108 (3435)
• Australia
15 Dec 06
it sounds like a good idea.how ever i see there are some people in here who have trouble with english and its hard to understand there posts a little understanding is needed here i think.at the moment im trying to encorage a friend of mine who cant read or write properly to join us i feel it would help him a lot i chat to him a lot in other settings and he is improveing so yer a little understanding in some areas is needed
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@ozangel82 (753)
• Australia
15 Dec 06
Very good idea, but sometimes it is hard to know if it a plagurized thread or not
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@harsh1985 (593)
• India
15 Dec 06
well i am completely with mylot this bloody plagiarization should be minimized as most as possible but while deleting that discussion most of inocent people get affected now i understand the complaints about dercreasing the points of so many users
now i will start to give negative points for such plagiarised discussion.
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@JoeyCa (1810)
• Belgium
15 Dec 06
I report them as well. People doing this are ruining the fun for the other honest members and are in fact stealing money as well from all the honest members on Mylot.
The situation is already much better then some time ago by the way, if we work together we can improve it even more!
xxx
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@shireishou (896)
• Indonesia
15 Dec 06
Yes.. i agree. we prefer not to reply it and only repot it. ^^
Ah.. I don;t know.. I don;t pay attention much with my post count. I have ahbit not to pay attention with my post count. So I don;t realised until my friends complain at me because her post is decreased
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@saumav (180)
• India
15 Dec 06
Its not possible for Mylot staffs to track each spam posts...
Wht users report is wht they delete..
But its surely is a clever idea not to respond to a spam post because there it does not gives stable points. The points awarded could diminish anytime when someone reports the post as spam.
I'm with u
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@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
14 Dec 06
I agree that you should respond to such discussions. I do not respond to them and I always report them. The only thing is when they delete duplicate discussions (not necessarily plagarized, just a discussion that is similiar to another one posted months ago), your number drop. So if you are a new user or haven't seen that particular discussion before, you get penalized. To me it is not that big of a deal, but I know that is still going to bug some people.
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@sanell (2112)
• United States
15 Dec 06
well I think that it is good idea and yes I will do my best to make sure that I do not answer to posts that are silly or make no sense or seem to be posts that are just constant plagarizing just for points. I too am an honest mylot user and I know that the reason my points went down because I started on Mylot in September so it makes sense that some of them got deleted so it is cool.
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@mummy2jake (399)
• Australia
14 Dec 06
yeah i report heaps, i don't think its fair they should get paid for something they didn't write
@shmeedia (1044)
• Canada
15 Dec 06
i wonder if our ratings go down when we constantly give negative ratings to other members?
like if the algorithm sees the frequency of our negative vs positive ratings of other users' posts.
i hope not, but i can see how this could be used in a case where a dishonest or angry user just wants to get back at random (or specific) mylot users who may or may not have previously given THEM a negative rating ;)
kind of grudge-rating.
@Idlewild (6090)
• United States
14 Dec 06
I'm kind of hesitant to see what happens to my points/earnings the next time I post a discussion (which is when Mylot says we'll notice any adjustment).
I posted to a lot of discussions my first week or two (in November) and this was before the rules became adjusted regarding topics,spam, etc. I'm sure at least some of those discussions will be deleted, and my responses with them.
But, I guess going forward things will better for the good contributors.
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@ESKARENA1 (18261)
•
15 Dec 06
very good idea, count me in, how do we know who is the spammer and who is the original though? im sure this is simple but i dont know
@shmeedia (1044)
• Canada
15 Dec 06
i agree that sometimes, it's hard to tell, but here are 2 hints:
if the plagiarized post is in the same discussion, the posts appear chronologically, right? so, whomever's post comes second is the culprit.
and if it's a whole discussion that's been ripped off, at the bottom right corner of the discussion you can see how many hours ago the disucssion was opened. compare both discussions to see which one was made second, and if both are very close in time, you have a SUPER SPAMMER haha, coz they were able to rip off someone's discussion presto quick-o ;)
@JustSimplyLissa (547)
• United States
15 Dec 06
Great Idea!
I have to agree with you.. Spamming BITES!
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