To SPank or Not TO spank

@wmaharper (2316)
United States
December 29, 2006 7:56pm CST
My 2 year old little boy earns his spankings when he defies me. When i Tell him not to do something, and he looks at me with that look of what are you going to do about it, and he does it anyways. but, if he's not being defiant, and is just mischevious, we stick to time outs. What do you think? do you spank your children? if so why/why not? were you spanked as a child?
5 responses
• Australia
1 Jan 07
When my children were young, spanking was the normal means of correction. I never used "spanking" but sometimes one hit (on the hand or the seat) was considered necessary, especially to prevent danger, as in touching hot stove. This was not so much to hurt (was never enough to hurt) but to teach. I had five sons who were always well behaved. Maybe if I'd had rebellious children my actions may have been different. My sons now have children of their own and none of the children have ever been hit. They have been reasoned with, sent to their rooms to calm down, or deprived of a toy or something they liked for a period. I am not being biased as a grandma when I say they are among the best behaved and most polite children I know - and I know many, being involved in a children's ministry. It is a great pleasure for me to see the obvious love and "togetherness" shared in their families. The children (3-16 years) are secure and confident, high achievers, and I'm sure they will make good citizens and parents themselves. While I still believe the occasional slap on the hand may be necessary at times, I do not believe spanking will achieve anything positive.
• United States
30 Dec 06
I think it's a good thing to do as long as it doesn't go into abuse. Too many families (especially white families) let their kids run amok because they think spanking "ruins their self esteem" or whatever. It's retarded.
@wmaharper (2316)
• United States
30 Dec 06
i completely agree.. i know in our house.. we don't spank when we're frustrated.. if we are angry or frustrated he goes to his room so we can have some time if we need it.. then we talk about it when he comes out and we're calm and collected..
@JC1969 (1224)
• United States
30 Dec 06
wmaharper, So, you actually doubly punish your 2 year old. You say you send him to his room till you are calm and then can spank him is that correct? You do know that the attention span of a 2 year old is so fast paced that by the time they have gotten to their room they forgot what it is they did to get them put there, and then you spank him after the time out in his room, chances are by the time you get to the spanking, he's really forgotten the behavior he engaged in that you are trying to correct with a spanking. You need to research the developmental stages of a 2 year old. There are plenty of documented articles that will help you understand that a 2 year old doesn't understand a simple "no" like an older child, and there are other techniques you can consistently implement now that he is 2, that will help you help him understand his behaviors and consequences.
@wmaharper (2316)
• United States
30 Dec 06
no, he doesn't recieve a spanking when he is sent to his room.. being sent to his room is his punishment if we feel we are too frustrated..
@janet069 (663)
• United States
30 Dec 06
I was spanked as a child and I turned out ok. Time out would never have worked for me. I'd have set there with my mind going 100 miles an hour trying to decide what I was going to do next. As it was, I sat there rubbing my backside saying I hate you, I hate you. But of course I didn't mean it.
@JC1969 (1224)
• United States
30 Dec 06
Do you remember being spanked at 2 years old? I highly doubt you remember being spanked at 2, because generally speaking a child has no recollection of ages prior to 3 and even memories of the age 3 can be a bit fuzzy.
@JC1969 (1224)
• United States
30 Dec 06
I have 3 kids ages: 19, 15, and 6 and I have never raised my hands to them, I have never spanked them. Too many people believe that a simple spanking and swat will correct behavior, but all it does is teaches a child violence and to fear their parents. The way it teaches violence is that it sends the impressionable mind of a child the reasoning that if something is against what they want, they can correct it by hitting. They learn early on that hitting is acceptable behavior from the best teachers in their lives--there parents. Look at how the cycle works--Little Joey defies you and does something against your wishes, and you spank him. Then later on Little Joey's younger brother or sister or little friend does something that defies Little Joey's wants and wishes and likes, and he hits them to try to correct them from doing what they did. Then you go and spank him again for hitting the other person--see the cycle it creates. You have taught your child that we hit in order to correct bad behavior and you are doing it to a 2 year old--do you know that developmentally a 2 year old doesn't understand "no" like a 4 year old or older child? This is the key age to establish good clear communication with your child, and help them understand what they are doing wrong. I was not spanked as a child, neither was my husband. I have researched and studied child development and with everything I have learned it has pointed to one thing that young children pick up their behaviors and mannerisms from what they see and interact with at home. SO, if you want to teach them that spanking, hitting, is the way we handle negative behavior that is your choice, but remember when your child hits another child or sibling that it was you who taught him that is the acceptable reaction and behavior to carry out.
@JC1969 (1224)
• United States
31 Dec 06
I'm not about to tell you how to discipline your child. I have worked in the medical profession for too many years, and I have studied child development for even longer than I have been a parent (over 19 years), and have worked in childcare for many years myself, and have studied psychology and sociology. I know that their is incredible and substantial evidence to prove that children, especially those under the age of 2 do not have the ability to reason "NO" like that of a 4 year old or older, which is why we need to be more communicating with them so that they can learn to rationalize and form the common sense responses for reasoning "NO". Just like a 2 year old has know recollection of why they are being hit, this is proven fact. All you do when you spank a toddler is cause them pain for the moment and get them to immediately stop the behavior you are not happy with, but you are teaching them nothing about behavior, because they do not have the developmental skills to do that yet. Again, you have to feel comfortable with the way you discipline, and that's what counts. I can't agree that spanking, which is teaching violence as a means to control, and then spanking with a spoon (a weapon/object), is a positive form of discipline when there is more medical evidence that shows it is not a constructed form of discipline. http://parentcenter.babycenter.com/expert/preschooler/pbehavior/69224.html http://www.kidsgrowth.com/resources/articledetail.cfm?id=800 http://www.parenting.com/parenting/child/article/0.19840.1215279_1,00.html? http://parenting.ivillage.com/tp/tpdevelopment/0,,devtrkr_9rpm,00.html http://www.elainegibson.net/parenting/spanking.html http://www.nospank.net/n-e61.htm Again, I respect your view on this and reasoning.
@wmaharper (2316)
• United States
30 Dec 06
wow, at least you are passionate about it, and that's what i hoped to recieve, was passionate responses. I do disagree with you, I believe spanking, when used correctly and administered witha nuetral object (we use a spoon, i prefer not to use my hand) can be and is very affective, though i do not believe it is for EVERY child, the extremeley sensitive child needs to be handled with the utmost care, and most likely a sesitive child is generally a compliant child, and therfore would not do something taht would require a spanking. And yes, to answer your previous question, i have studied early development of children and have much Experience with all types of children. I have been working with children ages 0-5 for about 8 years or so now.. And 2 year olds DO understand when you say No.. they may not always remember that something is off limits w/out a proper warning, but once rewarned.. they should grasp the concept.. and i would never suggest spanking someone who doesn't understand.. that's why i said it is reserved for defiance.. you can't be defiant if you don't understand you are overstepping the bounds. that's ignorance..
@musha_ali (391)
• Pakistan
30 Dec 06
Not To spank.........