What makes a cronic liar?

@WebMann (4731)
Canada
January 4, 2007 9:23am CST
I am a computer instructor and had a student that lied about everything. His entire life was just a big lie. The worst part was he wasn't even that good at it, he just lied all the time. I have know this guy since he was a young teen and he was a liar even back then. He has just gotten much much bigger and so have his lies. I can't understand what would make a person live this way. Especially when the people he lies to confront him with the facts.
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@killj0y (618)
• United States
4 Jan 07
Speaking in a professional manner, I do not know what causes people to become compulsive liars. However, with personal logic I think I have a good theory. Some people are so dissatisfied with their lives that they feel the need to lie to make it more interesting. Perhaps they live in fantasy worlds were what they are saying is true. If they told the truth it would force them into knowledge its truth themselves, thus forcing them out of their fantasies and into to reality. If that makes any sense to you. Another reason could be that they really want the person to like them and they don't think they will if they tell them the truth so they make up whatever they think the person wants to hear.
@killj0y (618)
• United States
5 Jan 07
this was a good discussion, it really got me to thinking about it...not like those "tell me a joke" brainless disscussions. I appreciate the best response mark by the way.
@WebMann (4731)
• Canada
5 Jan 07
I would say you nailed it right on. Thanks ever so much.
• United States
4 Jan 07
Pathological liars have emotional problems. They may even suffer from depression. Parents refuse to deal with this in their children. I no a woman whose daugther at 19 constantly lies such as you describe and she addresses it with "it's a kid thing." At nineteen it is not a phase it is a psychology disorder.
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@cuterose (1698)
• India
4 Jan 07
nice of u web man. my opinion is that, people lie for some petty things and to keep up the lie they have said, they say another one and so it continues. happy new year.
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@annieroos (1845)
• United States
4 Jan 07
I think what makes a cronic liar is someone who gets caught up with their own schemes and lies.. and they even start beleiveing their own lies to be true.. not only are they getting others to believe but them selves to.. the only thing is that once you find out they lied.. then its hard to believe anything they say.. because you come to relize that everything they were saying was a lie.. so you start to wonder what was true and what was a lie.. They can be dangerous people.. Especially if they get innocent people to get caught up in their lies..
@WebMann (4731)
• Canada
4 Jan 07
It get right out of control. It's sad but at the same time it can be funny as they keep building on the lies and at some point they aren't even in the ball park of truth. Just in too deep to get into reverse so they keep piling it on. I have a friend that is in our little guitar playing group and she just says stuff that can't be true and half or more of the things that have happened to this person, well superman would never have survived. :) Thanks for the comments.
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@shywolf (4514)
• United States
4 Jan 07
I cannot imagine what motivates someone to keep lying, especially after being confronted about it. I think that, for me, the embarrassment of being confronted even once would be enough to shock me out of any lies that I might have been attempting to tell! *laugh* But I hope that I'm not a good liar in the first place. I've always been a heart on my sleeve type of a gal, and am also trying to come out of a lifetime of being shy. Anyway, I hope that your former student has learned some life lessons and grown up a bit now. If you ever hear more about him, let us know! ^_^
@WebMann (4731)
• Canada
4 Jan 07
Yeah it's hard to say without actually being the one doing the cronic lying. I would be curious to meet him again as I have know him from time to time in the past. I haven't seen him in the past 4 years at least. My office is in my home now so I don't head downtown as much anymore. That I love. Nice and calm. If you look at my profile picture you will see the bottom of a picture on the wall. It is a stream with autumn leaved trees on either side and I can just about see some trout in there. Very relaxing. Don't miss downtown at all.
@SuperSam (172)
• Canada
4 Jan 07
I knew a guy like this in high school about 15 of us all hung out in a group and he's the only one we hated yet we felt sorry for, so we let him just be there. Lied about the color of his shoes, what time it was it didn't matter. I think what makes these people lie is just attention they do it for any and all attention, on top of that it gets so bad they don't even realize they do it. Thanks for bringing a memory back :)
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@WebMann (4731)
• Canada
4 Jan 07
Glad to help. :) I've read a few posts here that have brought back so great memories and I like to thank them also. That's got to be true. They just don't realize they are doing. Gotta be to fit in. Well thanks for your reply and enjoy your new year and may your pockets fill with cash daily. :)
• Canada
5 Jan 07
most pathological liars are a result of a mental disorder or they have low self esteem they know they are lying but its role playing for them
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@WebMann (4731)
• Canada
5 Jan 07
I would think it was low self-esteem. He didn't seem to be lacking in any other areas. But then again I don't have the word doctor pinned on me, so I am just speculating. Thanks for you comments
• Netherlands
4 Jan 07
Well, I know someone who will lie about anything and everything. Just simple things like if he walked the dog, to complete stories that are filled with lies. He is living in his own world and cant get out of it. It's sad to see.This person suffers from borderline. Now, this is NOT a statement that everybody who suffers from borderline is a liar!! this person is and it's called manipulation in this situation..for me it's the same...and hard to live with sometimes. It's sad for the boy himself and for the people around him since there cannot be any trust and he probably is not taking seriously by many people. But why someone wants to live like that?? I don't know..maybe there's no turning back or whatever... It's sad enough..
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• United States
4 Jan 07
I think it almost becomes an addiction...they tell more and more bigger, and to their thinking, better lies.
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@WebMann (4731)
• Canada
4 Jan 07
Lies upon lies upon more lies. It really is a sad thing. Thanks for the comments.
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@prasanta (1948)
• India
4 Jan 07
See, I think it is a vicious chain. To suppress something, you tell one lie, then to cover that another, and so on... Ultimately, it ends up to a point of no return. Honesty is the best policy. It means simply, you need not unnecessarily keep track of a long chain of lies. The chain is often bigger than that of our capability to remember. I thnk this boy has gone to that extent.
@WebMann (4731)
• Canada
4 Jan 07
I certainly agree it is a chain and that chain gets heavier with ever new lie they have to remember. Oh yeah, it's gotta make it hard to sleep well at night.
@samsonskola (3357)
• United States
5 Jan 07
I'm still asking myself that question after getting rid of an ex-fiance who was like that. I knew he was lying about everything, just took me a while to actually get the proof I needed, and then I gave him the heave ho! Not before he practically ruined every aspect of my life, though. Why someone can't just tell the truth about themselves is beyond me. As far as I'm concerned, if someone doesn't like me just the way I am, then leave! I'm better off than I would be by lying to make myself look better...for a while, until the lies were found out!
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@WebMann (4731)
• Canada
5 Jan 07
Ouch, that's a little close to home. At least I was only dealing with this person during our class time. I could go home at night and not think about it. I trust your life is getting better day by day. Here's to honesty. :) Thanks for you comments.
• Romania
4 Jan 07
I think what makes a cronic liar is someone who gets caught up with their own schemes and lies.. and they even start beleiveing their own lies to be true.. not only are they getting others to believe but them selves to.. the only thing is that once you find out they lied.. then its hard to believe anything they say.. because you come to relize that everything they were saying was a lie.. so you start to wonder what was true and what was a lie.. They can be dangerous people.. Especially if they get innocent people to get caught up in their lies..
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@WebMann (4731)
• Canada
4 Jan 07
It is a scary thing to get caught up like that. As a homeless teen I strung a few tails to get what I wanted and would have to remember for the next time. I didn't stay like that for a long time but I know it does play tricks on the mind and reality and lies blend. I remember for quite a while after I came back into the fold I had to correct myself when I say "I remember..." and I would remember as I was talking that it was a memory of a lie. I spent a lot of time explaining this to my son as he grew up so he would not become like that himself. Thanks for the comments
@katcarneo (1433)
• Philippines
5 Jan 07
i had one classmate in high school who's like that, and i think the reason why is because he's awfully insecure. on the first day he (an effeminate gay) said he had studied and just returned form Italy. He had all sorts of stories but somehow I didn't believe because his stories are about things you could research in Wikipedia. He had all sorts of stories like being beaten, having boyfriends etc. One day one classmate asked his mobile number to contact him for a project and he said his phone just got snatched. Another day someone rudely commented that he's wearing the same clothes again and again and he responded by saying their house just got on fire and most of his clothes were destroyed. but you knew, he didn't really have a cellphone, and he didn't really have a lot of clothes. he makes stories to serve as an excuse for the things he didn't have. like the Italy story, it turns out he came from one of the public high schools. he just said that story because our school was a private catholic school and most of the students there came from private high schools as well. so i guess that's one big factor--insecurity that leads to make-believe.
@WebMann (4731)
• Canada
5 Jan 07
That's a bit sad when we feel our lives suck so bad we need to lie. I had just ran away from home, at 15, and went to Toronto where I lived on the streets for a year before I finally pulled myself together. A sucky childhood. But I met some people that wanted to be me friend and I hung around with them for a while. I was really thinking they just wanted to use me so I didn't get to close. One day we were hanging out and someone started talking about birthdays and for some reason I said mine was in Aug. I think I said the 28th but it's really in March. Not thinking anything of it I continued on being ever so careful not to get too close. Well they had this huge birthday party for me and I was crushed beyond words. They had started the birthday conversation to find out when my birthday was so they could make me feel more comfortable. I was so embarrassed I never told them I lied but I never lied to them again. One of those moments that changed my perception of humans. That brought back some memories I haven't had for many many years. I don't know where I would be now if they hadn't done that good deed for a hurting kid. thanks for your comments.
• India
4 Jan 07
A liar is a person who is not able to face the world and often tries to run away fromit. in my opinion i would say that this starts during the teen age just because that is the time when one starts to face the competitions and also the whole world.it is sad that these people even might not like this to happen but they keep on being a liar to make themself comfortable and bluff other people.
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@WebMann (4731)
• Canada
4 Jan 07
You know this guy was a very smart or intellegent person. If he had of applied what he actually knew he would do quite well in the world. He would have to be his own boss because I am sure he would never keep a job long if he kept lying like that. I quess we were not really that great of people because we just accepted him and would just shake our head when he would tell his whoppers.
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@mari61960 (4893)
• United States
5 Jan 07
I think it's a real mental health issue for many people. It can be very sad. My cousin dated a girl that lied constantly. She would steal the clothes her sister bought for the kids. Then bring them over for my nieces and nephew. She stole her sisters brand new dress and gave it to my other cousin. When my cousin showed up in the dress at a party it was very embarassing for her. Also she said she was pregnant and went so far as to pee her pants in front of people so it would look like her water broke. Then she had a friend call my cousin and say he was the doctor that just delivered his son. Oh the poor girl was a mess. Luckily my cousin had broken up with her because she needed alot of help. And he wasn't the type of person that could or would help her.
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@WebMann (4731)
• Canada
5 Jan 07
I would say there definitely some problems there. I would be afraid to leave that person alone in my place. thanks for you response. Happy New Year
@jonezy (293)
4 Jan 07
thereis a problem with chronic liers however as they get into a state that they begin to believe everything that they think of, or every word that they hear must be truth. as soon as someone proves them wrong then they jsut start a new lie, a new way to get around the lie that has been proven wrong. it is an eternal chain that wont end because they have gotten into the habit of lieing and lieing. chronic liesrs have no trust in my mind, and trust is what friendship is built on in my mind. khris
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• United States
4 Jan 07
That is sad and stupid. Maybe he in insecure about the type of person he is and wants to be thought of in a better fashion. I do not understand though how someone can lie about something, someone calls them out and then they act like oh no biggy I'm going to lie again! Has anyone tried to talk to him about it in a nice way. Being like I know you lied about this why? how are you feeling? what's bothering you? You don't have to impress me.
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@WebMann (4731)
• Canada
4 Jan 07
Howdy Yeah he was confronted all the time. He would just swear up and down he wasn't lying. I haven't seen him since he finished the classes he was taking with us and that was a few years ago now. I would be curious to see how he is though. Maybe he snapped out of it or maybe he has just gotten in deeper.
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• United States
4 Jan 07
yea that is crazy... maybe he was bipolar and lived in a fantasy world or something. That is very awkard. I can't believe after you have proof that he was lying he would sear up and down it wasn't a lie...maybe he really is desperate for attention.
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@scorpius (1792)
• India
5 Jan 07
if a person is a chronic liar that does not mean that he has a big morality issue or he does not know the meaniong between right or wrong but is actually shy or depressed or something else.whenever a person is a chronic liar it is more often the symptom of something bigger.pls see the links below! http://specialed.about.com/b/a/056977.htm http://www.afplwatch.com/liarliar.html http://www.truthaboutdeception.com/
@pendragon (3350)
• United States
5 Jan 07
I've read that chronic liars have more white than grey tissue in their brains.That's all that i remember about that, but they meant basically that it may be a physical attributable thing. I don't know what it stems from but I have known plenty of them, they love to get away with whatever they can, i hate it.
@WebMann (4731)
• Canada
5 Jan 07
I didn't know that. I thought it was all grey matter. Thanks
• United States
4 Jan 07
I have heard that habitual liars cannot help themselves and require therapy.
@killj0y (618)
• United States
5 Jan 07
depends on the liar
@woolfy68 (36)
5 Jan 07
i think most of us have told fibs or white lies in our time, but to blatently lie i think they have to have a good memory, which,most of them don't have and if you confront them with their lies then they tell another to contradict themselves when they get found out so you can't trust them at all.
@WebMann (4731)
• Canada
6 Jan 07
I would imagine it's pretty tough to try and keep it all straight in their minds.
@coldmoon (1088)
• France
4 Jan 07
Someone is bored with or disapointed with the facts around him and by lying he creats an unreal world like he wants. But in fact, though it's easy to lie everybody but it's impossible to lie himself.
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@WebMann (4731)
• Canada
4 Jan 07
I would say you are right on there. Thanks
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@twrok2k (91)
• Brazil
4 Jan 07
man, i know how is that! I have one friend with the same problem... I have a ideia becouse he make this, is to make him "popular"... most people don't have respect for him... I think if people is honest, Rescpect come fast! sorry bad english!
@WebMann (4731)
• Canada
5 Jan 07
Your english is just fine. Well if I tried to type or talk in another lanquage you would not understand a single work and I understood you whole message. It's strange that they can't seem to ever be honest. Well thanks for the post.