Keep Your Patience!

@rainbow (6761)
March 22, 2007 11:49am CST
My kids (7 and 3 years)are crazy today and are really pushing my buttons and I'm wondering how to not scream at them because they do not hear me until I raise my voice the hundredth time, then they look at me gone out, lol. I have taken food and toys that are thrown etc away but nothing seems to really make an impression, I can't go out to get away from them as there is no-one free to look after them. I've tried this so far, but I'm still cross:- When you are about to explode ask yourself - "What effect is my behavior having on the people around me?" Imagine how other people see you at this moment. Are you proud of what they see? Is Anyone really listening to me? Own up - what am I really angry about? Ask- What kind of role model am I for my child? Can you think of any nice ways to keep my temper and still get them to behave nicely without a lot of screaming from anyone or fuss please?
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@Willowlady (10658)
• United States
22 Mar 07
This is my second response. You can get away by going out the door and shutting it and then leaning on it and then breath. Or go into your bathroom and lock the door and breath. Whatever you do you must be consistent. With my kids I have let them see how bad I can be and told them during good times how it was going to be. Now when they are doing something I ask 'do you want the bad mommy?' that is often enough. Whatever you do, you must be consistent. Also adopt whispering or talking very low so that they have to hear you. Again consistency. Good luck with this my friend.
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@rainbow (6761)
22 Mar 07
God, I love that, the evil approach, thanks so much, can I pull an evil face too, if I can do it without laughing. actually just tried it while I was typing this, lol. My 3 year old decided to put paper in the gas fire, he wants the nice mommy and isn't going to do it again. I managed not to giggle as well, which was good for me. (The fire wasn't on). I feel better for doing the evil voice too, just to say nasty mummy, not the rest, I was quite nice really but they seem to both have calmed down a bit. Thanks again, I'll let you know how it goes!
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
26 Mar 07
Wow that is great then keep going with this and ignore mine as this seems to work for you
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@rainbow (6761)
27 Mar 07
Gabs this worked until Roo decided he wanted nasty mummy when given a choice, lol, so that was the next day, he likes to hear me scream apparently, Bong likes nice mummy but it doesn't really matter as he carries on regardless really,after about a minute he's forgotten all about me.
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@minnie_98214 (10557)
• United States
23 Mar 07
I think sometimes you have to scream. I dont like to scream at my kids but it does work in 2 ways......1 is makes the kids hear me and know im seriuos and 2 it releives some of my tension. Im never proud of myself when i reach this point but it also doesnt hurt anyone.
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@rainbow (6761)
23 Mar 07
Thanks minnie, it wasn't like I was slapping legs or anything but I felt guilty, it was probably my fault for not being on their backs about so many differnt little things sooner. Usually it is Shrek who gets the blunt end of them bugging me but yesterday they were Bad! I felt awful that they pushed until I did it but I didn't say nasty things jut louder things, lol. I felt better for doing it but better still when I asked them later if they wanted nice or nasty mummy and they both said nice and did as they were asked, bless them.
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
26 Mar 07
Well to be honest Sweet In this case there really does not seem to be an easier way apart from take all the Toys out of the room put them in the room and give them time out. Which I know will be hard with sweet 7 but you can give it a try. Sweet 3 will copy sweet 7 so you need to try and enforce this time out. I know what he does when he is angry with you and all I can suggest is that you make him have more time out. Do not give in to them. Love and Hugs to you
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@rainbow (6761)
27 Mar 07
Gabs, aaaargh, thought nasty mummy was working until Roo 3 rdecided he liked nasty mummy better when given the choice, this left me a bit lost really, lol. Time out works on Roo 3 but Bong 7 forgets why he's there although he does like nice mummy better. Tonight they wouldn't eat tea sa it was early so I've just caught them stealing dairy lea dippers which are a big treat, they have both been sent to their room and there they will stay until daddy comes in. Bedtime and indegestion, wonder how long I can keep them out of the lounge. lol. If they can't eat my cooking they are not having treats! Bet the toys are all thrown all over when I go in so they will be in the roof tomorrow as I really have had enough now. I didn't raise my voice but I think they know I mean it, bless them.
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@14missy (3183)
• Australia
27 Mar 07
Beleive me I know how you feel. When we first moved interstate, my husband stayed at the old place for 8 months to finish the job he was working on. I had 3 kids (2 of which are not easy to handle at the best of times) and I didn't know a soul down here at all! I would lock myself in the laundry and ring my mum or SIL just to have adult conversation and to calm me down at times. I did learn that if you whisper, they tend to quiten down to hear what you have to say and then you can get your message accross. Doesn't work for too long but it is a bit of a life saver when you are afraid the neighbours have had enough of the kid noise.. I think changing tact works better than doing the same thing every time also because they know how you are going to react and it is old hat for them sometimes. I'm going to keep checking back on this discussion to see if there are any other great ideas coming in. Thanks for the discussion Rainbow...
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@rainbow (6761)
2 Apr 07
This has to be one of the simplist reward charts out! I have just bought coloured paper and stickers to start again. I think you may have something simple enough to work! Fingers crossed it works for you, I'm going to start with the start of the Easter holiday on Wednesday, I'll be thinking of you and hoping it's working!
@rainbow (6761)
27 Mar 07
Hi Missy, you must have been screaming inside, I know I am sometimes, just from frustration, lol. I will try to remember to keep changing my reactions, that might fox the little monkeys, and keeping them organised all the time seems to help too. I've just seen one where when you are cross you blow a toy whistle, then everyone has to write down how they feel, this is one for bigger kids really, but still worth a try, we could tell each other.
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@14missy (3183)
• Australia
2 Apr 07
Just thought I'd add something we started last week! Don't know how long this system will work but the last couple of days have been good! We made a chart each and every time something good happens (sitting nicely at the table for dinner or picking up dorty socks from loungeroom floor) a big tick goes on our chart. When someone starts fighting or yelling or not doing the right thing, a cross gets put on. It is there for all to see all week. We are going to add them all up at the end of the week and work out treats or money for each tick (tick minus cross equals amount of money etc) I have done a couple of threatening to put a cross up and that quitens the behaviour down. Wish me luck. Maybe you could try a varience of this too!
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• Canada
22 Mar 07
I know not every screaming parent is emotionally abusive, but one of mine was, and the other was scared... so growing up, I NEVER yelled at anyone, because I didn't want to turn into that. I didn't just turn the other cheek either, because I didn't want to turn into that either. Try this: "When you behave that way I feel like I want to scream. Sometimes i lose control, and I do scream. I don't mean to do it and I don't like to do it. We all need to work together here...that means me too. We are a team!"
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@rainbow (6761)
22 Mar 07
I'm so sorry you grew up in a home like that, I remember being screamed at and told how useless I was a lot and I don't want to do that to my boys. I have raised my voice but at the moment I could scream, it's almost like I learned it as a kid and this is how we do it, except that I know it works for all the wrong reasons. I really like your idea, I think there is hope for it with my youngest, my oldest has some special needs so it may take a few more reminders. Thank you so much for putting those clever words together for me.
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@sizzle3000 (3036)
• United States
27 Mar 07
I grew up with spankings and beating so I decided not to hit my child in any way. In doing this I became a yeller. My daughter is now sixteen and is miss know it all and she pushes the right buttons and I start yelling. It is like they cant hear you until you turn up the volume so to speak. I have tried leaving the room but it doesn't work because the problem is still there when I come back. I have tried to put it off on her father and that did not work because he just lets her do what she wants. I wish you luck with this problem because I have not found a way to solve mine.
@rainbow (6761)
27 Mar 07
Sizzle, I'm so sorry you had to put up with that, it doesn't give you any idea how to implement other things successfully so in panic we yell. I got spanked or sulked at and it's not pleasant, you don't do things for the wrong reasons, my dad was "don't upset your little mum" which was worse as he was disappointed and always believed her even when she really lied, still all over now. I am so close to screaming at mine on a regular basis, because I am determined not to use emotional blackmail in that way but it's really hard as I can feel the panic rising. They just walk all over me as I want them to be happy but they are making me really unhappy right now. I will win, but I feel cruel taking toys away or refusing treats after an uneaten tea, but I will win, somehow, at least mine are still small. I hope you and your daughter can negotiate some peace, somehow. Hugs to you!
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• Canada
1 Apr 07
Hi rainbow :) First - always enforce your expectations even when they are only mildly disobedient. If you let the little things pass, it gets out of control so fast and its impossible to get under control it seems. My hubsand does that ... he doesn't want to 'nag' so he doesn't get on their case for little things ... then suddenly he blows up at them. It's confusing for them, because one minute dad is letting them do things mom doesnt, the next minute they are being shouted at. So he goes from being 'really good guy' to 'scarey guy' really fast. Better to be 'predictable guy who follows the rules' ... less confusing, easier on everyone in the end. (did that make sense?) Second - I do yell - probably once a day or so - because the boys aren't listening. I'm not proud of it, but I do take comfort in the fact that I never say belittling things or other abusive things in my anger. I say the same things I was alrady saying - only louder. I think that is much healthier than the parents who really lose it and start calling names and swearing. So, if you are not being abusive when you raise your voice, try not to beat yourself up too much. Third - I use the boys rooms a LOT. I am known to send them there just to get some quiet. I tell them the living room needs to be calm for a time, and they each need to go to their own rooms. They usually need to be seperated for a bit ... I say ten minutes of quiet, and any yelling back and forth between the rooms restarts the time. So, when they yell, I remind them they jsut restarted the quiet timer. When they come out, we area all calmer and quieter. When I am really lucky, one of them will get interested in something in their rooms and not want to come out even when the time goes hehe. I can totally relate to not having anyone to care for them - with one ADHD and the other Autistic, there simply ins't anyone among our family and firneds who can care for my boys. And, where some parents can hire a teenager for a decent fee, I can't leave these boys with someone young and inexperienced. So, for us to go out I need to pay a professional ... which is really pricy. So we don't go out. I'm hoping to get some government respite, but the application takes months to get approved. In the mean time, use their room as a tool ... use the tele as s tool ... use a bubble bath as a tool .... whatever you can to get some space. Oh oh ... just remembered - shaving cream .... its a great sensory toy, so excellent for kids with ASD or ADHD ... and any kid will love it. Give them a can, get them naked, and stand them in the empty tub and let them paint the walls. Then sensory stimulation calms them, and you will get some peace while they play. Then just run the shower to rinse off :) In fact, any sensory play will calm them ... sand box ... water play ... play dough ... sensory stimuli calms all kids. k so I rambled hehe. good luck.
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@rainbow (6761)
1 Apr 07
Thanks ever so much sweetie, no I don't call names or get abusive but I do feel bad when I end up shouting just to be heard. I do send them to their room or a sofa each when I need a break, but I feel that if I leave the room the war starts or they gang up to create mischief, lol. I'm just really tired at the moment and with Shrek working so many hours they're being little monsters, I have to stamp hard at the start of the day nad keep on top as the slightest weekness and they jump on it so as I clear one mess another is created for the rest of the day. I'm sure that I will get back on top and it's just one of those fazes,lol. Thanks for the shaving foam idea, I find helping me cook keeps them occupied really well too!
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@rainbow (6761)
2 Apr 07
Thanks honey, you too!
• Canada
2 Apr 07
I'm sure its a faze and will pass ... they all do, even the good ones heh. Good luck :)
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