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myLot reputation of 91/100. Myrrdin (1641)   ranked 1 out of 62 in marijuana 5 years ago

420, 4:20, 4/20, or however you want to write it has infiltrated the english language as slang for Marijuana, more accurately for using marijuana, so much so that April 20th is practically a holiday for stoners, I know at my place of employment even the most conservative of people are discussing marijuana in a postive light. So what are the origins of this phrase? Does anyone really know, there are alot of theories, but nothing is 100% confirmed.

Theory #1: The police code for drug use

Theory #2: Many famous herb friendly musicians died due to drug related reasons, some even believe many of them died actually on April 20th

Theory #3: Students in California used to meet at 4:20pm every day to smoke up, spawning the question "Are you going to 4:20 today?" Which of course led to the current status.

What do you think the real root is, or do you know other theories?

 

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1. myLot reputation of 99/100. texasclassygal (3436)   ranked 10 out of 62 in marijuana   5 years ago

My grown children explained it to me as:

During one of the Grateful Dead concert Jerry Garcia got up on the stage and announced that it was 4/20 at 4:20 pm and that it was the international pot smoking day and if Jerry Garcia said it, it must be true


myLot reputation of 91/100. Myrrdin (1641)   ranked 1 out of 62 in marijuana  5 years ago

Hadn't heard that one, but Garcia was mentioned as the starting point, but I didn't hear the details. Thanks for that one.


myLot reputation of 99/100. texasclassygal (3436)   ranked 10 out of 62 in marijuana  5 years ago

I never could remember it, my daughter stayed at my house last night so I asked her first thing, of course her response was, why do I need to know such a thing, I told her that to be happy that today was 420, she smiled


myLot reputation of 91/100. Myrrdin (1641)   ranked 1 out of 62 in marijuana  5 years ago

LOL... well are you planning on celebrating 420 with your daughter, a family smoke out ;)

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2. myLot reputation of 94/100. whywiki (3095)   ranked 3 out of 62 in marijuana   5 years ago

I always believed it was the police code, I'd never heard any of the other explanations. It is funny how stories circulate. I think today should be a national holiday. Maybe when they legalize they will recognize. I always find it strange that when most people I talk to that don't smoke it say they think it is stupid to be against the law. So who is it that keeps it against the law? I got pulled over by an older cop one time when I had been smoking. He let me go because he couldn't be bothered filling out the paperwork. He just told me to drive straight home after I dropped off my video. Times are a changing, maybe it is just a matter of time.


myLot reputation of 91/100. Myrrdin (1641)   ranked 1 out of 62 in marijuana  5 years ago

Well it is the extreme right politicians with the "moral high ground" attitude that keep it illegal. That being said I don't think you should have been driving under the influence.


myLot reputation of 94/100. whywiki (3095)   ranked 3 out of 62 in marijuana  5 years ago

I thought I better mention I wasn't driving. Just smoking.


myLot reputation of 91/100. Myrrdin (1641)   ranked 1 out of 62 in marijuana  5 years ago

LOL oh ok then... From the story I thought you were driving. Yes I actually know of a guy who had 10 plants growing in his house the cops came and raided his house, the only thing they did about it was tell him to destroy the plants, nothing more.

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3. psychomom (39)   ranked 37 out of 62 in marijuana   5 years ago

Actually,the term 420 comes from the 70's and it was a form of measurement. A baggie was filled looselly with 4 fingers(lenghtwise) of pot and thet would cost you 20.00. As for April 20th, I'm not sure.


myLot reputation of 91/100. Myrrdin (1641)   ranked 1 out of 62 in marijuana  5 years ago

Hey cool, I haven't heard of that one, April 20th just poped up because of the 420 term, no other real significance.

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4. myLot reputation of 68/100. visitorinvasion (3623)   5 years ago

Theory #3: Students in California used to meet at 4:20pm every day to smoke up, spawning the question "Are you going to 4:20 today?" Which of course led to the current status.

That's the one that went around in the 80s...


myLot reputation of 91/100. Myrrdin (1641)   ranked 1 out of 62 in marijuana  5 years ago

that does seem to be the generally believed theory.... everything I read attributes that one all the way back to the 70s.


myLot reputation of 68/100. visitorinvasion (3623)  5 years ago

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5. myLot reputation of 74/100. xfallenxlostx (1811)   5 years ago

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myLot reputation of 52/100. cloud_kicker_32 (3796)   ranked 12 out of 62 in marijuana  5 years ago

it wasnt the date of his day.,.,it was the hour..just to let ya know:)

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6. myLot reputation of 80/100. maildumpster (1825)   5 years ago

I believe that the origin is in fact the police code. I am not 100% positive but pretty dang sure.
Hope you had a nice 4/20!

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7. myLot reputation of 52/100. cloud_kicker_32 (3796)   ranked 12 out of 62 in marijuana   5 years ago

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8. kwagga (44)   5 years ago

I'm most familiar with the third theory, that is, that there were a bunch of kids who always met after school at 4:20 to smoke... but how does something so minor become so popular?


v0lc0msk8r696969 (7)   ranked 16 out of 62 in marijuana  5 years ago

Its because...its weed. The majority of the people glamourize it.

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9. v0lc0msk8r696969 (7)   ranked 16 out of 62 in marijuana   5 years ago

The only theory I've heard of is the musicians dying on 4/20 and also I've heard it was Hitlers birthday, was Hitler a pothead? I don't see how that relates to half the country getting stoned on 4/20. Well, I had fun on 4/20...We rolled a 42 gram blunt, It lasted 2 hours.

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10. myLot reputation of 90/100. crystalball (1242)   5 years ago

I think it can lead to using more dangerous drugs.

Marijuana is much stronger than it was in California when the hippies use it.

The best POT is grown where I live and from personal experience I am sad to say loved ones have gone on to using cocaine and heroine.

Have a good day.

Lyla


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myLot reputation of 91/100. Myrrdin (1641)   ranked 1 out of 62 in marijuana  5 years ago

The gateway drug theory is a crock, and the government knows it despite their efforts to pretend otherwise. Now I am not trying to minimilize your loved ones experiences, but I have to ask you did these same loved ones smoke cigarettes? Chances are they did, the percentage of users in rehab who are also smokers is considerably higher then even those who used weed, did they drink cafinated beverages? Once again chances are they did. One of the main flaws with the gateway drug theory is it takes a result and guesses at the cause, this is bad science.

Check out my article on the issue on my blog http://420-now.blogspot.c...


myLot reputation of 90/100. crystalball (1242)  5 years ago

I hope you never have to experience what I have. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

Only one when to rehab and the other one won't go.

Have a nice day.

Lyla

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