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This was told to me by our son. He is the US Army. Our son had gone to a convenience store run by a middle eastern man to buy cigarettes. He showed his military ID as he has no driver's license. You have to be 18 to go in the military down here, so he was legally old enough to buy them. He was told he could not buy them, but only after showing a military ID. Yet every day I drive by that store I see middle eastern men(?) (they don't look like they are old enough to be out of middle school) walk out with smokes and beer. Has anyone else seen this or is it just in this small town we live in?
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1. craftcatcher (1604)  | 1 year ago | I can't say I've ever seen anything like that here, that I know of. Our area is very pro military and the largest employer in the area is a military facility. If something like that happened here he wouldn't be in business for very long. People here may protest our involvement in Iraq, but nobody would dare protest against military personel. First thing I would do is get absolute confirmation that the story it 100% true and factual and not just a rumor. If true, the store owner is entitled to his own opinion and has the right to refuse service to anyone he wishes. This is America after all with all the rights allowed under our Constitution. However, as American citizens we also have the right to choose where we do business. I think I would be spreading the word of the incident to everyone I can think of, possibly calling the newspaper or local radio and tv stations, putting up a few posters at the local grocery stores, laundromats, bars and any other place that has a bulletin board, etc. Next I'd be calling the police and informing them of this business owner selling cigarettes and beer to underage kids. Let's see how long he can keep up the discrimination, and illegal activities when he no longer has a business. Ain't America great!
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HighReed1 (881) | 1 year ago | There isn't a military anything within 80-100 miles of us. I know it is true because he had gone in with my sister-in-law and her boyfriend. They were incensed at his treatment! So were the other store patrons. They offered to buy the cigs for him, but he chose to spend his money elsewhere. I don't think telling the cops would work. I have seen them in his parking lot when the kids (or whatever) leave. It's not what you know down here, it's who you know. After I heard about this, I NEVER went to his store again. I tried putting up papers about this on a few bulletin boards. They disappeared quickly. I wonder if that guy even realizes that he is allowed to run a business here because of all the patriots that fought to keep America free?
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craftcatcher (1604) | 1 year ago | People like that, it doesn't matter if they know or not, they don't care. Well, just keep spreading the word about the incident, he's going to lose money because of it no matter what. It just takes one customer at a time.
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2. zukepr (10184) | 1 year ago | That is crazy! he showed them his military ID and they still refused to sell them to him? I would be suing the pants off that place. I dont know about discrimination but it does show alot of sheer ignorance.
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HighReed1 (881) | 1 year ago | I would probably have gone the sueing route as well. My son is a lot more laid back than that. He saw no reason to make problems, but he ALSO saw no reason to let that guy make any money off of him. That is probably why he didn't let anyone else buy them there for him. I think if these store owners are allowed to get a license to sell cigs or beer they should COMPLETELY know the laws of the state. Ignorance is no excuse!
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3. Angrykitty (1015) | 1 year ago | I am not in the least bit surprised by this!
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HighReed1 (881) | 1 year ago | It makes me wonder what his motive was, if there was one. If he is against our military and hopes we will lose against Iraq and the terrorists, does he REALLY think he will be allowed to sell like he does in an islamic nation?
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Angrykitty (1015) | 1 year ago | He sure as hell couldn't sell beer there! Isn't alcohol forbidden to those people?
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HighReed1 (881) | 1 year ago | He probably wouldn't be allowed to sell to women either. Boy! His profits would drop like a lead balloon!
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4. sndcain (3090) | 1 year ago | There's something I don't get. Why didn't they sell the cigs to him even though he could prove he was of age? What was the reason given?
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HighReed1 (881) | 1 year ago | He was told it could be a fake id. That's all he was told. Even though he had the military haircut and all, I guess they still didn't believe him.
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sndcain (3090) | 1 year ago | Well, that's crap. That really ticks me off. Some people are such jerks.
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5. Riptide (1155) | 1 year ago | This is a clear case of discrimination and goes to show that they love out money but hate us. Which begs the quetstion, what the hell are they doing here? I have noticed that when I go into gas stations ran by middle eastern men, which is almost every gas station, they treat certain customers different then others. I often notice, not do they only treat americans or westerners different, they also treat women different.
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HighReed1 (881) | 1 year ago | I know. That's why I avoid any of those businesses like the plague. If I am not good enough to be treated decently, then my money isn't good enough for that store.
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6. KrazyKlingon (2344) | 1 year ago | I'm thinking drive by the place with a camera & start snapping pictures of the youngsters walking out with cigarettes & beer. Then send them, email them (if it's a digital camera in which you need to have the pictures on your hard drive) to whoever would listen. I'm thinking if the wrong people get them, they'd be out of business or at least, heavily fined, for selling beer & cigarettes to minors.
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HighReed1 (881) | 1 year ago | But how do I find out who would be the people to send them to? Obviously the cops are friends of his, so who else would enforce these rules?
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KrazyKlingon (2344) | 1 year ago | I'm thinking if the cops don't want to do anything about it, maybe the local newspapers might love to have a story like that. It may also make good fodder for the local TV news channels to broadcast about, unless they like reporting the same old thing over & over again.
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7. elp388 (1859) | 1 year ago | well, I would tell this story to everyone that I know and boycott this store... even if I had to picket the place! this place doesn't deserve to be opened to the public! I would also tip the cops about this man selling beer and cigarettes to minors! if all else fails.. set a ham at the door!:)
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8. devilsangel (927) | 1 year ago | Wow I am honestly not really surprised that it happened. I remember when I had gone home once on leave and was walking through the mall of that area something similar happened to me. It was a different type of discrimination though. See I am a blk female and I was in a mostly white area. The mall was pretty big and it was about 10am on a weekday. Halfway through my store hopping I get stoped by mall security and asked to produce some ID. At the time I was in the middle of one of those jewelry stores. I show them my military ID cause at the time it was the only ID I had. I was only 20 and didn't have a license. (the resaons they stoped me was they said that I looked underage.) The malls in that area won't let anyone under 17 in during school hours. The guy said it was fake. I just looked at him and said really well if its fake I want the last 2 yrs of my life back cause those sure as hell weren't fake. I then in not so nice of a way told him where he cold go and how to get there and that if he continued to harrass me I'd make it my point to have him fired. related resource: home security
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HighReed1 (881) | 1 year ago | Wow! I guess maybe the military should hold a press conference...'If they have a military ID, LEAVE THEM ALONE! They are old enough!' It wouldn't do you any good now, but may help some others. I guess I'm lucky. I look WAY younger than I am and, except for getting carded, I haven't had problems. I hate to think how I would have handled your situation. Especially since I only end up at the mall when I'm frazzled!
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9. SKSOUTH (391) | 1 year ago | It's not uncommon. Anytime someone thinks they can get over on you they try. Occasionally you just have to set them straight!
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HighReed1 (881) | 1 year ago | I know. I just hate confrontation. Our son is easy-going enough about things like this that he didn't worry. I don't know how you'd set a doofus like that store owner straight, though...
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10. yanjiaren (5128) | 1 year ago | I think any kind of discrimination stinks and if the non caucasians always complain about racism towards them, then they should ruddy practicing what they preach, because I am sick of it all over..I have seen blacks being racist towards chinese and even some restaurant delivery boys in ny were killed in cold bood justbecause they were chinese..I am fed up with the arabs being racist towards black thikning themselves superior..i am fed up with the Indians, east Indians being racist towards darker skineed minirities..I.e the lighter your skin the more prestige you have!!1 I am fef up with it full stop..I am a Greek, caucasian but was racially abused by whites here as I am not white enough lol.So all I can say is that Racvism sucks and that Shop keeper should get some manners if he wants to do trade where he is..not fair at all what he did to your son..sorry about the vent..
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