Why are we so complacent?

Canada
August 6, 2007 6:05pm CST
While watching the news coverage on the bridge collapse in Minnapolis and reports that it was known to have structural problems the above question popped into my head and got my 'thinker' going again. When I heard the city was willing to spend billions on a new arena...but did choose not to repair the bridge it gave me reason to pause and consider the larger implications of complacency in different areas of life. It was common knowledge that New Orleans was built below sea level and the levies needed repair. The dangerous effects of complacency there was devasting. Now the concern for failing dyckes, bridges and damns are showing up on the news...for now. But how long will it be before the next big crisis will hit and complacency will set it and things will remain the same? Then there is the North American dependency on oil...the auto companies killed the electric car for reasons we all know and understand. However within a consumer driven market when we make enough noise about something changes can and do occur. Even our health care systems are geared to treat the problem...after the fact. The medical model treats the symptom...rather than helping patients understand the underlying problems that created it. Preventative health still has a 'woo-woo' feel to it for doctors and patients alike. So I think we have all been somewhat complacent about taking proactive steps to remaining healthy and strong at any age. My hubby and I were talking about this before I posted this. From our observations there is a natural tendency to only take action when something hits close to home or on a personal level. I'd appeciate hearing what your views are and what we might be able to do to become less reactive and more proactive?
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@Aussies2007 (5336)
• Australia
7 Aug 07
Democratic governments all over over the world care about only one thing... looking good in order to win votes. Repairing a bridge does not make the news to make you look good. So it is a waste of money. I see this in Australia all the time. Ask the government to repair roads... instead they build a new motorway. Ask them to fix the health system... they have no money and cannot afford to do so. The next day... the tsunami happens in Indonesia and Australia offers one billion dollars to Indonesia... while yesterday they were broke and could not fix the health system. Governments leaders have only one think in mind. And that is to erect new structures which will be seen in history as monuments to their name. America is another story. While American poverty is ignored by the government... there is an unlimited amount of money spent on its military and war machine... because war is the centre of the American economy. Without war... America's economy would collapse... and so would all the billionnaires making their fortune out of it. Those billionnaires are the very people who keep the likes of George Bush in power. They are the one providing the million needed for the election campaign. Billionnaires don't believe in spending money to help the poor. They only believe in spending money as an investment to make more money.
• Canada
8 Aug 07
Once again you come with powerful observations that are inarguable. The points you present show the short term, self-serving way governments and bueacracries look out for their own interests. It is a sad but true fact that "billionaires don't believe in spending money to help the poor...they only believe in spending money as an investment to me more money." Your interest and participation in perspectives discussion forums is greatly appreciated!
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
7 Aug 07
As for the bridge It should have been fixed I would have thoughgt when that great bridge structure in Venezuela callapesed that would of really gave the heads up that all brigdes dont stand forever with out repair. and of cours in La. they really should have fixed the levees there . The people that took that money for something else should have to pay it back and go to jail for embezzelment right? Right! To late for them to back up and say oh we should have put the money to where it is surpose to go. Like even out here I think they need to stop building new stuff and make sure all that is alreaday built fixed back up to standards and codes
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
8 Aug 07
they tend to go with you scatch my back I will scartch yours. and everyone in the Goverment owe someone something. It is just a game to them to see if they can top one another in who calls in the favors. Have you seen Movie The Man of the Year with Robbin Wilams in it . I liked it for I think he really did win even tho she thought it was a glitch but with the people that run for office seem to think they have to have big campign money sand that trapps them in to lies and all. Why cant the do there own campign with their own money and then they wouldnt be trapped to do what some big donatere wants them to do .
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• Canada
10 Aug 07
Yes, we did see the movie and thought even though it was a take-off on the political scene it provided a lot of clarity about the 'big-ness' of the whole machine and what fuels it. That is one thing I really value about the Canadian system..there are minimus budgets for the electoral process and that levels the playing field...to some degree. However, corruption in politics happens in every country including ours...because people will be people. Good addition..thanks again dear friend.
• Canada
8 Aug 07
You are right Lakota12 maintenence and addressing safety concerns should be a higher priority...but they are not. The complacency within the government and beauracratic organizations does lead everyday people to think that there is nothing they can do to change things and they don't try. There is a ripple effect to everthing and sometimes things have to 'crash' before people from all walks of life take action. Maybe it will take a few more 'crashes' for the powers that be to bring things up to code as you suggest.
@sunshinecup (7871)
7 Aug 07
The reason is, those in power rather use the money and their time focussing on things that will draw more money in, right now. So things like repairs or replacement of bridges and dams get put on the back burning since those things are working, now. It's wrong. Then we tax payers and potential victims, either are unaware or unorganized when we are made aware of it. So many things tick me off, like our health care system, it ticks all those I know off, but we don't know what to do about it other than set here and be ticked off together. We are unorganized. The powers that be, know this and bank on it. They have no intentions of deflecting funds from projects that are or will be putting more pennies in their own pockets, until they are made to and they know the chances of that happening are slim to none. We will march to stop abortion, racism and allow illegals to have a home here, but for some goofy reasons we won’t march to force our government to reform health care to our benefit, make repairs to save lives, and/or find a better way for us to travel. I don’t get it but maybe one day someone smarter than me will. Then they can let me know and tell me what in the world to do about it and then we can bring logical change that will save our planet as well as our selves.
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• Canada
8 Aug 07
Your ideas about why people rally in a united voice for one cause but not another is an intereting one. You observations about why the government back-burners things until they are 'made to' deal is true. They seem so far removed from the people they are elected to serve and turn a blind eye and deaf ear until something catastrophic occurs. Like you I would love to participate more fully in making the world a happier, healthier and safer place..but sometimes the challenges do feel overwhelming. I know it may seem strange to anyone who has not participated in a forum like Mylot but connecting with you and others who genuingely care and appear to be doing their best to walk their talk has raised my consciousness that there are a lot of us out there doing our best to give back in whatever way we can. Thanks again for adding your unique views to disucssons here your input is appreciated!
• United States
7 Aug 07
Until our elected officials remember to pay attention to us (we the people??) I don't think much can be done. I have voiced my concern regarding illegal immigrants and other causes and nothing happens. Sure there is plenty of talk but talk is cheap and nothing is done.
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• Canada
7 Aug 07
In the political arena your concerns seem to be overlooked and the government appears to be complacent about things until they HAVE to act. Many officials do not seem to be able to bring long term planning or consider the ripple effect of their choices. They are certainly good examples of reactive rather than proactive thinking.
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• United States
7 Aug 07
What a thought "we are doomed and rightfully so". I am glad I that I am not ready to consider my country as doomed. Pessimists have no hope therefore do nothing about it. Optimists (such as myself) on the other hand try and do something to change an impending doom forecast such as you envision.
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@HighReed1 (1126)
• United States
7 Aug 07
We need to make sure our elected officials know where we stand and that we will vote against them if they aren't representing OUR interests. In our area there are many bridges like the one that fell. You can bet I'm watching what happens REAL close. I have to go over and under many of them every day.
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@HighReed1 (1126)
• United States
16 Aug 07
Thanks! My husband found my avator for me. I have been hearing that our officials are having inspections done. I have also seen bridges where semi drivers try to take their rigs under them and get stuck.
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• Canada
26 Sep 07
My hubby found mine too...except that my owl doesn't fly the way yours moves so majestically! Good to know that inspections are taking place...must put your mind at ease. Best regards, Raia
• Canada
7 Aug 07
Hi..before commenting on the topic I must say I really like your Avatar! Goodness I can appreciate why you will be watching what happens to bridges in your area if you have to travel over and under them every day. I sincerely hope you that your government officials are not as complacent as they were in Minnapolis. Good luck!
@DanaMark (807)
• United States
7 Aug 07
On a personal level, I think we approach life with an attitude of "This will never happen to me." So we put off exercise, or eating right, or getting checkups, just cruising along in life until it is too late. I don't go to the doctor unless something is very wrong. I'm not getting the regular checkups that are recommended for a person of my age. You see, I don't think it will happen to me. On a city, county, state or federal level, I think a big part of the problem is lack of funding and personnel. There are so many programs that need to be funded. There are so many new good ideas and program that are shoved on the back burner because there is no funding for them. So putting off repairing bridges and levies doesn't become a high priority until something bad happens that wakes us all up. As citizens, we don't want to shell out extra taxes to pay for all this. So politicians continue to debate and argue for years about what should be done with available funding, or arguing over what new funding to approve. Then when a disaster hits, they have to take action. So now everyone is scared their bridges are bad and more careful inspections are taking place. That will die out shortly because it will cost a lot more and will take people away from other important projects and needs. After the immediate bad memory fades, bridges won't seem all that important again - until the next time one collapses. I think it is mostly about perception - will it affect me, or what will it cost me?
• Canada
8 Aug 07
I shared your response with my hubby because he sees things in a similar way. You have presented some valuable insights into why we, governments and corporations are less inclined to take a proactive rather reactive approach. You are so right about the short attention span we all have..and I like the way you worded it; "After the immediate bad memory fades"...and..."it is mostly about percpetion-will it affect me, or what will it cost me?" You have put the topic of complacancy in a brief and eloquent summation...thanks for adding your 'thinker's' ideas, your participation is always appreciated.
@estherlou (5015)
• United States
7 Aug 07
We always think "that will never happen to me". I guess the same can be said for cities or corporations, etc. as they are run by people. As for New Orleans, they used a lot of their money supposed to go to repairs for the Mardi Gras the previous year. And so now we hear Minneapolis spent money on the arena instead of the bridge? I guess the powers-that-be thought it was a no-brainer...the arena would bring in revenue.
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• Canada
8 Aug 07
Yep, you sure are right about the no-brainer part...it was, and will continue to be about money. I also agree with you on the 'it will never happen to me' viewpoint. We are all a guilty of that to varying degress. It has taken my hubby and me years to finally reach the point in life that we are thinking and planning ahead instead of being caught up in short term gratification. Life is running a lot smoother now with a more proactive approach than our old reactive patterns. It is my sincere hope that united voices can bring some of that to those in power.
• United States
12 Aug 07
It is the " It's Not My Problem" syndrome. If it doesn't personally touch our lives, we don't care about it. Is it because of the me generations of the 70's taught their children to be self absorbed? Is it because everyone is too busy working to take notice what is really happening. Or is it because we are spoiled/ don't know but I don't see it changing anytime soon.
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• Canada
13 Aug 07
I think we could safely say...all of the above. We were discussing this subject with friends this afternoon...and they echoed something similar to your; "I don't see it changing anytime soon" observation. For many in today's society the busy-ness of life, information overload, increased cost of living and taxation can create an overwhelming sense that they have too many balls in the air already. Couple that with a sense that nothing they do will create different outcomes it is not surprising that complacency seems to be a growing social problem. A sort of funny cartoon quote put it this way: "I used to be apathetic...now I just don't care." It is in all likelyhood a sad, but true statement about how many seem to feel in today's rapdily changing world. As I have been reading responses I think there are a lot of indiviudals who really do care...but seem unclear about how to bring something different to fruition. In my view changes cannot occur without awareness...maybe the first step to being less complacent is in realizing the areas we are...and then deciding to take a few small baby steps towards changing the cycle into a more proactive approach. Thanks for adding to the topic...your ideas area appreciated.
@liranlgo (5752)
• Israel
7 Aug 07
There is a simple answer to that question when i am thinking about: It's all about money. " willing to spend billions on a new arena" means alote of tourism and people and alote of money made to the city." I really wish i had a differnt answer, but i do not. It has always been money and the way i see it, it will always be, and it is a sad thing.
• Canada
7 Aug 07
Yes...you are probably right. Now with so many lobbyists impacting on government policy-making money does play a large part in how decisions are made. But in North American a lot of people are so complacent that they don't even turn out to vote. The question of money is sure a large consideration in those who run for office. The amount that prospective candidates are spending to try and get elected could repair many of the bridges that are at risk of collapsing. There is definitely something wrong with the larger picture alright. Yes, the question of complacency shows up in a lot of different areas of life. I appreciate your participation and value the way you see things.
@ZenDove (698)
• United States
7 Aug 07
Instead of the two major political parties in this country being the Democrats and the Republicans, it seems we have become the Complacent and the Apathetic. There are some of us who project the complacent attitude of "As long as it doesn't happen on my shift, in my backyard or to my car - everything's fine. Someone else will take care of it." The Complacents tsk-tsk and shake their heads at the news and then change the channel to UPN or E! Somehow or another they have it in their heads that their little corner of the world is protected. Tragedies always happen "over there" to "those people". There are others who are so caught up in trying to survive and maintain their daily bread, they really don't have the energy left over to CARE about their neighbor or even their own futures. If you are like the growing majority of middle-American workers, you are JUST able to keep your car this month, Just able to pay some of your bills, Just able to stem the flow of the daily deluge of struggle, taxes, bills, etc.. I may know that I should boycott that bridge or tunnel until it is repaired - but I must get to work or I will not survive. Oddly enough, the rich in this country tend to be as apathetic as the working-poor. I mean, really, why should they care? They are virtually untouchable. Unfortunately, this group contains more and more of our political leaders. I mean, really, why should the Bushes care? They have their pipelines pumping billions of dollars throughout their family (HOW much does gas cost a gallon?!!) Who are you to them? Not gonna vote for them? So what. Gonna write letters to your congressman and newspapers? Gonna blog them and make expose documentaries about their evil empire? So what. You can only be so mad for so long because you've got to get up and go to work in the morning and business is slow and taxes are up - you don't have time, or energy, to care. Personally, I tend to be a bit cynical about where all this is headed. Our public schools do not provide an education, they are not producing thinking, aware citizens. The masses are ignorant, ill-read, boorish and selfish. And those are the NICE people. Seriously, until compassion replaces complacency, action will never take the place of apathy. You must care in order to act. Ridiculously, most people have to have "it" happen to them before they actually get out of their barcaloungers or Hummers to see what the fuss is all about. I just take my grandmother's advice to "lighten up the corner where you are." Difficult enough to do on a small scale. I actually thought that 9/11 or Katrina were big enough tragedies to shake us awake but we needed a leader who would come forward and keep the motivation going. Instead, we got misdirection, misinformation and scare tactics. So we all went back into our little shells, trusting our neighbors a little bit less and feeling even more distant from the fate of others. What will it take? A messiah? A message written in the sky? No cable television for a year? I don't know but lately I've been reading about the Amish on the internet! They might not be far wrong - too bad they don't "fellowship" with black people! Seriously, I'm open to suggestions and thanks for letting me vent.
• Canada
8 Aug 07
You are welcome to vent here anytime! I called my site perspectives because I wanted to share my views...but to have others offer theirs as well. You presented so many valid points that they are worth reading and re-reading...and I will. Hopefully others will as well. Some of what you presented I had considered, but you added a lot more to think about. Having others give me reason to pause and re-frame things is something I enjoy. I agree with your thoughtful and insightful overview on the topic and you provided some real food for thought. What you call a rant...is filled with truth and I thank you for taking the time and energy to put some valuable concepts for the rest of us to consider. Thank you...I am grateful you accepted my request to be a friend and that you are choosing to participate in this sharing cirecle.