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myLot reputation of 95/100. ryanphil01 (3077)   ranked 3,042 out of 19,255 in questions & answers 5 years ago

Why are the rows on a calculator arranged with the lowest numbers at the bottom, and why are telephone keypads arranged the other way, with the lowest numbers at the top? Any ideas?


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1. myLot reputation of 99/100. lilaclady (22685)   ranked 633 out of 19,255 in questions & answers   5 years ago

Thats a very interesting little thing to think about, I have never thought about it before, maybe the same people who put the computer keys designed them with some sort of reason, I hope someone can tell us if there is a reason for it...funny how you take things in front of you for granted, I never even thought about that.


myLot reputation of 95/100. ryanphil01 (3077)   ranked 3,042 out of 19,255 in questions & answers  5 years ago

yes, these are little things we ignore most of the time. we have been using them yet we are not aware why they are arranged such. there must be reasons for these numeric arrangements. i wish somebody could expound more about this.

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2. myLot reputation of 92/100. xcarax (984)   5 years ago

It is pretty odd that a calculator and a touch-tone telephone have exactly opposite layouts for their keypads, which have many identical components. The reasons behind the differences are not known for certain, but a few theories exist.

The first theory deals with the telephone's circuitry and tone-recognition hardware. When the touch-tone telephone was being designed in the late 1950s, the calculator and adding-machine designers had already established a layout that had 7, 8 and 9 across the top row. Data-entry professionals, and others who used calculators fairly regularly, were quite adept at navigating these keypads. They could hit the numbers extremely quickly, which was great for data entry, but not so great for dialing a touch-tone phone. The tone-recognition technology could not operate effectively at the speeds at which these specialists could dial the numbers. The telephone designers figured that if they reversed the layout, the dialing speeds would decrease and the tone-recognition would be able to do its job more reliably. This theory has little proof to substantiate it, but it does make sense.

A second theory refers to a study done by Bell Labs in 1960. This study involved testing several different telephone-keypad layouts to find out which was easiest to master. After testing several layouts, including one that used two rows with five numbers each and another that used a circular positioning, it was determined that the three-by-three matrix that had 1, 2 and 3 across the top was the easiest for people to use.

Another theory is based on the layout of a rotary telephone. On a rotary dial, 1 is at the top right and zero is on the bottom. When designing the new touch-tone keypad, putting the 1 on the top-right didn't make much sense, because Western writing is read from left to right. But putting 1 on the top-left, and the subsequent numbers to the right, did make sense. Using that formula, the resulting rows fell into place, with zero getting its own row at the bottom.

All of these theories attempt to explain why telephone and calculator keypads are exact opposites, yet no one theory can be pinpointed as the definitive reason. It is common practice today to use the telephone-keypad layout when designing new products that utilize a keypad, such as Automated Teller Machines.

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myLot reputation of 95/100. ryanphil01 (3077)   ranked 3,042 out of 19,255 in questions & answers  5 years ago

Very well-substantiated source of information. At least we are aware that there are theories explaining about the arrangements or layouts of numbers in either calculators, keyboards and atm machines as compared with the layouts of the cellular phones and other phones. In fact, I never thought about this for a long time until one my friends asked me the same questions which prompted top raise the queries to this forum.
Thanks you xcarax for sharing us this very helpful article.

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3. myLot reputation of 74/100. everlasting (9950)   5 years ago

In the calculator, it is easier to place the 1's and o's on the lower portion because it is mostly used and placing them in the lower portion would lessen the force used by our finger. Clicking the 7 8 and 9 would mean longer strokes for the fingers.

In the cellphoneor telephones, the 0 1 and 2 are in the upper portion because it also served as abc def and so forth and in the alphabet we have an arrangement that the first letters start in the upper left.


myLot reputation of 95/100. ryanphil01 (3077)   ranked 3,042 out of 19,255 in questions & answers  5 years ago

but have you not used your cellphone as a calculator too? why didn't they make it uniform instead? we could have used one design to avoid confusion! what do you think?


myLot reputation of 74/100. everlasting (9950)  5 years ago

In the cellphone, it was arranged that way because as keypad too for sms. whether i use this as calculator doesn't matter because it is the alphabet arrangement that matters.

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4. myLot reputation of 96/100. Lakota12 (23201)   ranked 349 out of 19,255 in questions & answers   5 years ago

they just want to confuse us lol


myLot reputation of 95/100. ryanphil01 (3077)   ranked 3,042 out of 19,255 in questions & answers  5 years ago

you may be right my friend because in the first place, they could have done these things uniformly without any hassles on the part of the users. as you said, the layout designers of these gadgets even confused us than helping us out the easiest way. how would you be more convenient if you are using a cellphone on one hand and a calculator on the other hand or perhaps keying in your numeric keypads of your keyboard for some mathematical operations while pressing the phone number of your friend in your cellphone. what a delightful expereince!


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lakota12 (23201)   ranked 349 out of 19,255 in questions & answers  5 years ago

well that would be something else for I have to look at the nos. on each to punch them in I dont have them memorized just my phone nos. are in my head lol or I hit redail

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5. myLot reputation of 78/100. orbeltadz (366)   ranked 19,220 out of 19,255 in questions & answers   5 years ago

i hope this buttons and touchpad will be soon replaced by touchscreen like Apple Mac did for their iPhones.


myLot reputation of 95/100. ryanphil01 (3077)   ranked 3,042 out of 19,255 in questions & answers  5 years ago

your wish is my command!

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6. myLot reputation of 95/100. michecu (512)   5 years ago

I also have no idea about it...it's an interesting thing to know about... I believe it because of ergonomic principles...just like the way letters are arrange in the keyboard. Well, i'm not really sure, i recommend we browse the internet for answers.


myLot reputation of 95/100. ryanphil01 (3077)   ranked 3,042 out of 19,255 in questions & answers  5 years ago

I found this answer while I was searching. Mechanical adding machines, based on rotating wheels, always have the 0 button adjacent to the 1 button. By convention, most old adding machines had the numbers increasing in value from the bottom. When the numbers were put onto a pad arranged as a 3 by 3 grid with one left over, the order of the numbers was kept the same.

On a rotary telephone dial, the 0 comes adjacent to the 9 because a 0 in the telephone number is signalled by 10 pulses on the line. When telephones acquired push buttons in a grid, the ordering of the buttons was carried over from the old telephone dial.

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