Why do people need to hate?  

Hate is a strong word...and a strong emotion. It reminds me of the expression...that 'anger is one letter short of danger.' So I agree with you I do not even use the word hate...and do not harbor those feelings towards others either.

I think you confuse "hate" with bullying.
Nobody is going to hate you because your video sucks. But kids will give you a hard time about it... because kids can be far more cruel than adults... as they don't have a brain and don't understand what they are saying.

I hear your suffering about the rough time you're having over your music videios. I guess my approach to these kinds of things is to remember that most unhappiness is caused by comparison. So let them think what they want to think...and disengage from the views of others if they are not benefiting who you are and where you want to go.

Throughout my life I try to keep the lesson...but throw away the energy around the experience...especially if it was less than positive. I sincerely hope that your on going engagement with those you do not have respect for stops soon. Hatred anywhere on-line or off has a ripple effect...as it has in your life and those who care about you I am sure.

Hopefully you will find higher ground...and leave them in your dust. As Aussie says...many young kids do not have a fully developed brain...or consciousness...so consider the source and hopefully you will be able to move beyond the hassles.

I'm not too concerned with these peoples opinions Perspectives, it's just annoying that they get away writing this stuff about people. I'm ok about it now.

Aussies, you're right that these morons are just bullies. If they weren't saying how bad my videos are they'd be bad mouthing someone else. I suppose it's better that they decide to pick on my videos rather than some poor kid. I saw one 14 year old guitarist, who was actually very good, get hounded so much he didn't return to youtube.

Humiliation can cause deep hurt and harm. Sorry to hear about the young guitarist that was subjected to that kind of abuse. Hopefully they will find a more receptive venue, pick themselves up and try again. To me success is always about getting up one more time..then another until you arrive where you want to be.

Good to hear you are moving away from the negative energies around those who are on a different wave length...who needs it anyway. They only have as much power as anyone gives them. When everyone leaves there is no one to pick on and maybe they will eventually see their dynamics aren't working. If you keep focusing on what you love to do..who cares what anyone thinks?

I like the way you have broken down the differences...and I can see your position on some things. Yes, using the word hate as a means of venting..is just that in some cases. However, the amount of venom that is being spewed on news sites just because someone has a differing political view seems absurd to me. People who have stated a differnt opinion than someone likes to hear have received death threats.

The hatred towards gays is still very strong in many places across North America...I know because we live in a bible belt area of Manitoba...and we see it and hear it. The level of violence that is triggered by hatred on a global scale is much more than mere 'dislike.' "Kill the infedels' is a result of hatred and I could site many other visible, active examples of hate in action. Yes, some people may strongly dislike...others still choose to use hate as an activator for their anger.

One thing I do not agree with is the persons who do not engage in debates or put their nose into other people's business are the only loving ones. Goodness, I have known many loving people who have strong opinions and state them...but they still don't hate. Martin Luther King, Mother Theresa, prophets and religious leaders past and present express their opinions loudly...and opently...but do not encourage hate as a means of resolving differences.

So in my view hatred is still a choice...and a mindset wherever they devlop it. I also believe that anyone can make a choose to see it differently and act accordingly...if they want to. As I have said...I believe they will continue to hate as long as it serves some purpose within themselves or their world view. So much of our hatred, dislike and disapproval of others is an inability to get over ourselves and our opinions. Comparisions lead to put-downs and right and wrong thinking. In my view all these negative mind-sets create polarity...and that shows up in subtle and very profound ways in every area of soceity.

I like the way you have broken down the differences...and I can see your position on some things. Yes, using the word hate as a means of venting..is just that in some cases. However, the amount of venom that is being spewed on news sites just because someone has a differing political view seems absurd to me. People who have stated a differnt opinion than someone likes to hear have received death threats.

The hatred towards gays is still very strong in many places across North America...I know because we live in a bible belt area of Manitoba...and we see it and hear it. The level of violence that is triggered by hatred on a global scale is much more than mere 'dislike.' "Kill the infidels' is a result of hatred and I could site many other visible, active examples of hate in action. Yes, some people may strongly dislike...others still choose to use hate as an activator for their anger.

One thing I do not agree with is the persons who do not engage in debates or put their nose into other people's business are the only loving ones. Goodness, I have known many loving people who have strong opinions and state them...but they still don't hate. Martin Luther King, Mother Theresa, prophets and religious leaders past and present express their opinions loudly...and opently...but do not encourage hate as a means of resolving differences.

So in my view hatred is still a choice...and a mindset wherever they devlop it. I also believe that anyone can make a choice to see it differently and act accordingly...if they want to. As I said in my post...I believe they will continue to hate as long as it serves some purpose within themselves or their world view. I believe that much of our hatred, dislike and disapproval of others is an inability to get over ourselves and our opinions. Comparisions lead to put-downs and right and wrong thinking. In my view all these negative mind-sets create polarity...and that shows up in subtle and very profound ways in every area of society.

Another good response...and your views always add some pragmatic perspectives and I value them.

OMG! Another OOPPS...I did it again...my penchant for doing double posts is getting embarassing...sorry!

When it comes to politic... I think we live by example. We see our politicians slugging each other on television and in the newspaper. So we guess that it must be alright to act the same when discussing politic.

The hatred towards gays is still very strong in many places across North America...
I guess we are way ahead on you in Australia. Hate for gays is almost non-existant in Australia. Sure they might still be the odd bully without a brain here and there. But in general... gays people have been accepted. But of course... they always keep asking for more. And if they get it... that general acceptance could revert back into anger.

Yes... terrorism is about blind hate. Again... we are talking about people with no brain.

Prophets and religious leaders are in a class of their own. When talking about loving people... I was talking about normal people.

As for religious leaders... I have seen a few from Islam that don't exactly fit the picture of loving people.

All that said... I cannot think of much hate in Australia. Sure... we dislike some things... and sometimes we get angry... but not to the point of hating.

You know... in many cases... those two words, hate and racism... are the first words which pop up in the head of victims because they have a very low level of tolerance to criticism.

I see people talking about racism everywhere today... when in fact racism is nothing today compared to what it used to be 50 years ago.

People simply like to use strong words to make their point. Saying "I don't like George Bush very much" will simply not put your point across.

Your additions to broaden your views from the first post. It is good to know that gays are more accepted than in other parts of the world. We hear about the 'laid back down under approach'...so am I to assume that it is at least, in part true?
I agree with the subversive elements to violence and hatred and how it is permeating our senses through media and entertainment exposure. That is why I think the varying levels of it are something we need to evaluate. By seeing so much of it...one can become complacent and desensitized to the nebulous, but still negative effects on our thinking and perceptions.

In your comments about some of the more loving beings being in a class of their own...I still disagree with that. Now this is just from my personal experiences...but I have been fortunate to meet an amazing amount of strong, committed people who speak their minds...fight for causes...and still do not promote hatred or judgement of others. They are everyday heros who make a conscious choice to walk their talk along their spiritual paths and they do forgive...and move on even when they've been harmed or humiliated. They CHOOSE to walk a path of love and acceptance...and it is a choice anyone can make.

Now maybe it is because I work in the human potential movement and live with like minded others in our energy-based thinking. Or more than likely it is the Law of Attraction aspect manifesting in my life. I believe that what goes around comes around...and conseqently I do my best to focus on love rather than hate, respect rather than dishonor...and accept rather than judge. I do this because it is the way I was raised...but also because those are the things I want in my life and so I try to give that to others and treat them the way I want to be treated. And I can honestly say...my life is continually more enriched with that framework.

During the times in my life when things were tough and I allowed myself to have a prolonged pity party or played the blame game...I had a lot more of that 'stuff' coming back at me. Through my healing journey, personal development, training and within my work I have come to know one thing for sure...that whatever we assume to be true usually becomes very real to us. So hate, dislike, frustration, anger, resentment used to be a lot more REAL to me than they are today. Now my reality includes more peace, hope, harmony, acceptance...and yes, love. It all began to change...when I changed my perspective...and it is that way for countless others.

So yes, we agree about the dynamics and the layers of hate...but seem to part ways that it is a choice...and that there are many beautiful, loving, inspiring people who do not buy into hate. They choose to work towards unity and peace rather than the divisive aspects of hate and judgement. They are out there!!

Love chatting with you...your thinker makes mine think...and that is why we have such good on-line conversations.

We hear about the 'laid back down under approach'...so am I to assume that it is at least, in part true?

Oh yes! You better believe it. Australians excel at it.

Part of the reason my hubby and I want to travel to your wonderful country. Friends who visited it loved it too. We probably enjoy it because of our love of nature and hiking and exploring in natural settings. The laid back part also has great appeal.

It is never surprising anymore when your views are a reflection of mine. I'd love to be able to sit and chat with you about so many of the topics we have only touched on here.

The word need was purposely placed to have people consider whether it really is a NEED...OR A CHOICE. My views echo yours...when all is said and done...it is still a choice. I agree that it is a choice that has been shaped by their conditioning...but when people begin to 'awaken' to higer potentials within themselves they can hopefully see things differently and decide to change.

I agree with you about the comparision part of what percipitates the feelings of anger and hatred. Often the kids become the people their parents warned THEM about...conditioning tends to do that. Your comment about; "starting to look for the parts of others that we can love we can be much healthier mentally, physically, emotionally and spiritually" is so very true.

In my work I have noticed that many who think something outside of themselves is the cause of their problems they look outside of themselves for the answers. Within our company the approach is just the opposite. We promote the idea that everything anyone will ever need to know originates from within their own spiritual nature. The challenge is to become still enough to hear the answers.

Good contribution to the disucssuion again...I so value you who you are and how you see things.

Before beginning...I noticed you hit the 100 mark...good for you. As I mentioned before your well throught out responses are a great addition to any topic...and you have done it again with this one.

Your perspective on choices and consequences is aligned to my world view as well. Playing the 'blame game' rather than being willing to stop and consider cause and effect is a track many take. However, in my spiritual beliefs moving towards the capacity to speak and show only love, honor and respect for each other in the face of our differences is one of the main pathways to enlightened living.

I also agree that it is healthy to vent out the negativity, pain, suffering, shock, dismay...anger...better out than in for sure! However, it in the way that it is done that makes the difference to purging for ourselves versus causing harm to others. And yes, it is a challenge for all of us to remember that free choice is something we all have...and maybe it was given as a means of teaching us tolerance, patience, compassion...and many of the higher soul qualties we are striving to achieve.

Great input...thank you again my new friend!

What an interesting life you've lead...and continue to lead dear friend. When I told my hubby how close you were to Moab he laughingly said..."Hey, when are we going to take a trip to Moab and arrange to meet Lakota?" Well, who knows maybe sometime we will.

Anyway hearing about the barriers you bumped into when you got married is a great addition to the topic. It shows how much bias there is within our own countries. 'Worlds within worlds' is the term my Sweetie uses.

Your observatiions about preachers who spout hate is an excellent point. No wonder people become brain-washed into hating others when they hear it from a supposed authority figure on the pulpit. I agree with you the God I believe I am connected to is One of Love...and that is where I put my focus too.

And yes...to know you is to love you too! Glad to know you keep shining your bright light in your corner of the Universe...and now mine too!LOl

aw thanks and I just try to keep shinning I got a post to make later not sure how to start it but it will get in here in the next few days.
Love to ya and bright blessings

Okay...well as I say goodnight..I also say God bless. We will be chatting tomorrow and I will check our your posts as well. This topics have kept me busy all day...and it takes more time to add photos...but it makes it interesting. Thanks again for adding comments to the pics...it makes the effort worthwile. You might want to check out picures of our two dogs on the flip/flop discusson. You will probably get a kick out our 15 year old Lab/Shepherd smelling a flower in the garden. It is cute if I do say so myself.

Anyway bigs hugs to you too!

lol not sure where the flip/flop is but I will look for it.
your welcome on comments on pics they are so great I wil have to find my pics of a rodeo just getting to them is wherre the heck have I put them lol
HUgs night and blessing for sure and those wings around us!

Good perspective...thanks for dropping by and welcome to Mylot too!

I see where you are coming from and your observations about what often seems like 'primal' reactions is a great explantion. However within that we all have the ability to choose...and sooner or later it is incumbent upon us to consider the chain reaction of both hate and love. That choice to forget past track records and start anew is there at any moment. And to me, that is the great gift of life.

Yes it is...and with it being used so loosely...and in ever increasing forums I cannot help but wonder if is like other things that are over-exposed...we become desensitized to the impact it is having.

I agree that the hate word in many cases is just a venting outlet...and more of a dislike or disapproval than actual hatred. However, there are many representations of deeper, manovolant aspects of this immensely destructive emotion. Without some form of govenors that start with awreness it will allowed to become more rampid.

"Teach only love" is not something we hear much of anymore. So whether it is the milder forms of dislike, disapproval, comparison, judgement...all these negative responses polorarize. In our troubled world I am seeking more unity...because witin unity and acceptance there is also peace.

Hi again, thanks for including a great illustration of how anger is just one letter short of danger. It also reveals how polorizing anger and hate can be...and how one person can become a peacemaker a quell the intensity. You are definitely on to something when you address the element of power struggles within hateful conduct.

I have never heard the "love is many-headed...and hate is cold and final" before..but it does give one reason pause and consider it. When you think about love being...many headed...it certainly does have more outer expressions than hate. It reveals itself in respect, openness, trust, compassion, honor, integrity to name a few. Hate...well it can be cold and final...so maybe it isn't so bizzare after all. I think it is very representative of what we are evaluating within this topic.

You have provided some very graphic and real life examples here...and your additions to the conversation have provided some great perspectives. Thanks!

What you have brought into the discussion is very true. That attitude was so prevelent after 911 when many American citizens were in a quandry and kept asking..."Why do they hate us?" So many are still very unaware of the long standing problems there were...and are with American foreign policies. To this day I know many of them just buy into the spin doctors within politics and the media's slant on things...and therefore continue to have the old addage that "those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it." And so it is with most things in life on large and grand scales. Thanks for adding that valuable quotation to the forum...speaks volumes about hatred..and why some people need to do it.