Forced medical procedures.  

The intentions may be right, but the implications could be sinister.

This is about the government telling you you have to subject yourself to medical testing.

You may enjoy mandatory bureaucratic probing, I don't.

Thanks for the anti-American rant. Don't confuse the policies of government and multi-national corporations with the wishes of the majority of American people.

For the record... I am not anti-American at all.
The problem is not with me... but with Americans who have a chip on their shoulders and view anyone not agreeing with them as anti-American.

Like it or not... but eventually you will have to fall in line like everybody else... and it is going to happen sooner than you think... mark my word.

While your freedom is wonderful... it does come at a price. In Australia... everyone is free. In America... only those with money are free.

Fall in line with what? who? why?

Fall in line with what we call in Australia "political correctness".

In most cases... I hate it. But I am from the old school and I don't represent the majority anymore. However I still like to call "a spade a spade". But people won't allow me to do that on an Australian forum. I got ban from two of them. Which is why I am on an American forum.

Political correctness means equality for everyone (even if they don't deserve it).
No racism.
No discrimination.

It also means
No illegal emigrants.
No drink driving.
No speeding.
No guns.
No smoking.
All of those are viewed as anti-social and only smoking is not yet a crime... (give us a couple more years).

And as you would know... all those things are getting on your agenda in America.

I would define PC as NOT saying what should be said.

So are you for or against the things you listed?

I am all for "no illegal emigrants".
I was against the rest when it was introduced... but I learned to live with it. My biggest problem with it is the way it is enforced with zero tolerance.

A lot of people get severely punish for speeding and drink driving for being just over the limit... and they don't deserve that. As for the smoking ban... it is pure hypocrisy.

What you also need to remember is... that when a government decides to take matters in its own hands by forcing people to do something... it is because people did abuse their freedom and broke the rules of common sense.

This has just happened in Australia. Ten years ago we gave the aborigines part of their land back... and the freedom to live on their reserve independantly from the rest of us. Today we find that those aborigines are abusing their children in all sort of ways... and we cannot simply sit there and watch it happening. So the government is taking their freedom away.

As an Australian I am embarrassed and compelled to comment here. Aussies2007, despite his myLot username, is NOT an Australian, he is French! It is he, who has a huge chip on his shoulder and his anti-American rant indeed borders on insult, while showing a high degree of ignorance.
He confuses personal freedom with political correctness, the meaning of which he does not seem to understand in the first place. For you Aussies2007: political correctness (PC) is the term used to describe language, ideas, policies or behavior seen as seeking to minimize offense to racial, cultural or other identity groups. PC is the communal tyranny that erupted in the 1980s. It was a spontaneous declaration that particular ideas, expressions and behavior, which were then legal, should be forbidden by law, and those who transgressed should be punished. So, TDonald your question to Aussies2007 to explain himself is justified. Aussies2007's statement about 'falling in line with the rest of the world', is another one that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. He does not define 'in line with rest of the world' and probably forgets that the rest of the world includes China!
Anyway, TDonald, if you continue this discussion with Aussies2007, who is off topic, remember that he is French, NOT Australian.

That is the problem with people like plooker. He is Dutch and he is racist. He hate political correctness and anti-disminicration laws.
He hates anyone who don't think like him.
He hates chinese because they don't speak english. He hates homosexual, aborigines, teenagers breaking the law... you name it... he hates it.

His idea of being a good Australian is to get piss after a hard day work.

You only need to live two years in Australia to become an Australian. I have been here 37 years... and I am more Australian than plooker will ever be. Being Australian is about tolerance towards other. Plooker does not even know how to spell the word "tolerance".

Correction: Plooker has Australian citizenship! Aussies2007 has NOT!

It is a shame that the piece of paper you bought with a pound of sugar did not alter your way of thinking.

Australian citizenship cannot be bought, Aussies2007. One has to qualify by attending an interview at the department of Ethnic Affairs (I went to their Parramatta office) and satisfy the conditions prescribed by the Australian Citizenship Act 1948. If you have any criminal offenses on your record, you do not qualify. Not paying your taxes is a criminal offense. You also have to have an understanding of the English language. So if you did not obtain Australian citizenship after 37 years (shame!) then what is your problem?

I sense you two don't like each other.

LOL, TDonald!

I was about to answer when I started reading this amazing exchange and just stopped and pondered.

I sense a distinct dislike between the two that I actually find interesting but way off topic. I will respond to the original question but it won't be as interesting as this exchange!

I think the intent is to require tests for certain diseases. How invasive this could become is open for speculation.

There could be conflicts with people with certain religious beliefs too.

And would you be punished if you refused a test or just denied medical insurance?

Gday Woftpatty,

I am glad that I have been able to entertain you with my 'off-topic' discussion with Aussies2007. I am sorry TDonald. Yes, I know Aussies2007 and no, I don't like that birdbrain.

Hi Plooker,

It was an amazing exchange! I have no idea what it is all about but the animosity was very vivid. It was a relief to not be one of the two who were having that kind of discussion!

And TDonald, I agree that if there is anything more than the government will pay for a yearly check up, I don't want it. I take care of myself in MY way and, as you said, some religions don't believe in certain tests and procedures and some people simply do not want medical intervention for their own reasons.

If I had to say yes I agree or no I don't to your initial question, it would be no. We need better health care but we need it for those who want and seek it, not for those who are forced to do things they don't want to do.