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Am I wrong for not letting my 8 yr old fly...ALONE?  email this discussion to a friend?

JaLuvYa (77)   ranked 1,108 out of 9,010 in parenting 5 years ago

I am divorced with sole custody of my eight yr. old little princess. I was very easy going with visitation because I feel it's important that she spend a good deal of time with her father and his parents who I adore. I live in Buffalo, NY and they live in Fairhaven, Massachusetts. I spend a great deal of time and money driving half way to Amsterdam, NY to meet them four to five times a year. It's 4 hrs to and from Amsterdam and I do not complain. I really don't mind. My daughter enjoys herself a great deal and I get a break.
However, my x-husband feels it's too much to drive and wants to put my eight year old on a plane by herself.
Of course, being the over protective mother that I am- I said no way. She is not old enough. I have several reasons. The biggest being- PEOPLE ARE CRAZY!
My next one- is no one is going to take care of your child in an emergency situation like you would.
He says she will "probably" be safe... but for some reason... "probably" just doesn't work for me.
Am I wrong?

 

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1. myLot reputation of 97/100. ersmommy1 (11456)   ranked 212 out of 9,010 in parenting   5 years ago

I wouldn't. Right now my daughter is only 4. But the 1st time I flew alone I was 14. And nowadays even that may not be safe. PEOPLE are crazy, I agree with you. Probably isn't good enough. Sorry. You'd have to give me a definetly with 100% Mom satisfaction guarantee. Why don't you see if you all can compromise. Meet 1/2 way. That seems fair to me.


JaLuvYa (77)   ranked 1,108 out of 9,010 in parenting  5 years ago

LOL- thanks. Half way is our arrangement now. I don't mind. I know my daughter is in good hands that way.


myLot reputation of 88/100. Haiden123 (102)   ranked 7,544 out of 9,010 in parenting  5 years ago

I wouldnt but if she wanted too and if i told her more about what would hapen and if she still wanted too id let her


JaLuvYa (77)   ranked 1,108 out of 9,010 in parenting  5 years ago

At eight though... my daughter is not mature enough to make that kind of decision. If it's fun... then she's all for it, regardless of the possible dangers. I love my daughter but if I say don't ride your bike in the street and I go in the house to grab something, when I come back out the house she will be on the curb with one wheel in the street. We live on a very busy street but the danger means nothing to her right now, just being cool and keeping up with the older kids. That's why we are parents, to protect our kids when they don't even understand that they need to be protected.

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2. myLot reputation of 86/100. graedragon (223)   ranked 2,070 out of 9,010 in parenting   5 years ago

At that age I would not put my child on a plain by herself. That is just me. I have a friend that has been doing that with her son for a few years and he is now 10. It just depends on the parent.
As for who would take care of her that would be the job of the stewdess. She would take care of her throughout the flight.


JaLuvYa (77)   ranked 1,108 out of 9,010 in parenting  5 years ago

Yeah, my x said that there would be someone to watch her but like I said before who will protect your child like you would protect your child in an emergency.

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3. myLot reputation of 95/100. phillygirl606 (846)   ranked 342 out of 9,010 in parenting   5 years ago

Of course your not wrong. Dad is being a little selfish and only thinking about himself. He needs to keep his little girl in mind and put out of his mind that the drive is too long. The drive may be long but it should be well worth it for him so he can see her. If he wants her to take a plane instead than he should fly there to get her and than fly back with her. It would be different if your daughter was a teenager and could take care of herself. I know if i was 8 years old and on a plane alone I would be frightened. I think it's absurd that your ex would even suggest this. I think a court would agree as well. ANd you are not being over protective, any parent who has a shred of common sense would think that the whole idea of an 8 year old, by herself on a plane is just crazy.. hopefully your ex will come to his senses and see it how you see it


JaLuvYa (77)   ranked 1,108 out of 9,010 in parenting  5 years ago

Thanks :) I actually suggested that he fly round trip to get her but apparently that would be too expensive for him-lol.
He's a cool guy but as a parent you really have to do what's in the best interest of your child and not just what is convenient for you.

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4. myLot reputation of 98/100. aseretdd (6860)   ranked 21 out of 9,010 in parenting   5 years ago

I don't think you are crazy... but i think your husband is definitely crazy... an 8 year old travelling alone in a plane is a no no for all families... maybe if she is like a teenager and can handle herself independently then let... but for now, the 4 hour drive will do... don't listen to your husband... follow what your motherly instinct says... or better yet why not just ask him to go to your daughter instead...


JaLuvYa (77)   ranked 1,108 out of 9,010 in parenting  5 years ago

Yeah, when she gets older maybe, but not right now. She's just too small and too trusting and too curious. It's too soon! Thanks :)

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5. myLot reputation of 94/100. sedel1027 (12989)   ranked 155 out of 9,010 in parenting   5 years ago

My son will be 9 soon and there is no way that I would let him fly alone. People who allow their young kids to do so are crazy! I can just imagine how panicked he would be if something were to happen.


JaLuvYa (77)   ranked 1,108 out of 9,010 in parenting  5 years ago

I know. Every time I turn around there is something else crazy happening with an airplane. The guy that they arrested for stroking a woman's hair when she was sleeping, near misses in the air and on the runway, and we live in a post 9/11 world... I can't. I know that I would put myself in harms way to protect my child but would a flight attendant... who knows? I can't take that chance.


myLot reputation of 88/100. Haiden123 (102)   ranked 7,544 out of 9,010 in parenting  5 years ago

Yea you never know in this world there is some strange people.

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6. myLot reputation of 93/100. armymomma3 (687)   5 years ago

ok, so i read all of your post and I can understand the fear and anxiety of putting a child alone on a plane.
My daughter will be 12 years old this year. She has been flying unaccompanied for the passed 6 years on average 3 times per year.
She enjoys it very much because of all the attention from the staff that she gets. Yes I do adore my child and would die if anything happened but at this point. I cant deny her a trip to her father. He lives in Colorado. In the passed 7 years we have lived in Georgia, Texas and in Kentucky now. The cost is the main thing. I can definitely say there are some airlines that handle the ua (unaccompanied minors) better than others. Delta.. sucks. They are rude to the parents and to the kids. Do not allow her to fly delta.. I seriously thought I was going to kill the chick when I picked up my child. 2. American Airlines... they are always friendly, helpful, respectful and understanding of my fears. They are comforting to my daughter and this is the one she flies. Do I think that I am irresponsible in allowing her to fly alone.. no. However sometimes life gives you situations that you can not control. So you have to make the best of a bad one and sometimes you do have to do things you wish you did not have to.
If it is something you can not feel comfortable with and it is not absolutely necessary than dont do it. If it is something you would like to test. See how she feels. You know your child better than anyone. Is she mature enough for it. But look at it from her point.. not from a mom point of view. Sorry hope this helps.


JaLuvYa (77)   ranked 1,108 out of 9,010 in parenting  5 years ago

Thanks for your reply. If it was absolutely necessary then maybe we could discuss it. But that is not our case. Yeah, it's not convenient but not much about parenting is. I would never keep my child from seeing her father which is why I spend as much money in gas to take her and meet him halfway as he does. I drive 4 hrs there and 4 hrs back without complaint so that they can have time together. All I am saying is if I can do it- so can he. Her flying is not a necessity, just a matter of conveniance for him. He has moved several times, we have always lived in Buffalo. Those are his choices...right now he is closer in Mass. than he has ever been and it the arrangement has worked for a couple years now.
My daughter's overly trusting demeanor throws up all kinds of red flags for me... she's just not ready.
I would never imply that people who let their kids fly that early are irresponsible but like you said you know your child the better than anyone else and I know mine is not ready :) Thanks again for sharing.


myLot reputation of 93/100. armymomma3 (687)  5 years ago

Thats the key thing... she has to be ready and capable of handling the responsibility of it. If she is not then by no means. stick to your guns and inform him he still needs to drive. When we lived in the same state, we shared the responsibility. unfortunately some men seem to think once they leave they dont have to give as much but still deserve all the extra. my daughter is now 12 and she is
starting to see things in a much more adult manor. I have never kept her from her dad. in fact i covered for him a million times over. recently i have stopped and she is seeing that daddy does not always do as he says.. unfortunately it is a lesson my child has to lose. by no means did i mean you insinuated that i was irresponsible for allowing my child to fly. however as in this post and some other similar... people to tend to assume that all arrangements can be done the same way. people tend to think that there is only one set of circumstance for all situations and that is not reality.
good luck and i hope all works out for the best.


JaLuvYa (77)   ranked 1,108 out of 9,010 in parenting  5 years ago

Thank you and I wish you the best with yours :)

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7. myLot reputation of 98/100. DJ9020 (977)   ranked 577 out of 9,010 in parenting   5 years ago

I work at a major airport, so here is my advice. Is it a direct flight? If so, list her as an unaccompanied minor. It might cost a little extra (make him pay it), but you can walk her to the gate, per TSA guidelines. An airline employee will meet you there and take her onto the plane. At her destination, an airline employee will take her off and check the id of the person picking her up, who will be allowed to the gate to meet her. I would let my kids fly under those circumstances. HOWEVER - if there is a connection or plane change, then under no circumstances would I let my kid fly. You're depending on a stranger to escort your daughter through an airport. I have worked too many cases of 'escorted' passengers that have been lost by airline employees. Direct flight, yes. Plane change or layover - no way!


JaLuvYa (77)   ranked 1,108 out of 9,010 in parenting  5 years ago

Thanks so much for the advice :)

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8. goodbody33 (72)   ranked 7,541 out of 9,010 in parenting   5 years ago

I don't think you are wrong at all. I wouldn't let my daughter go even if she was twelve. That is your baby, your precious cargo, and you are right, if god forbid something were to happen the first thing on your mind if you were ther would of course be her, even before yourself. No one other than yourself has that, its a motherly instinct to protect their children..
Besides you would probably make yourself ill with worry about it...


JaLuvYa (77)   ranked 1,108 out of 9,010 in parenting  5 years ago

Exactly!!! And you are right I would be worried sick the whole time. There is nothing that I wouldn't do for my daughter, so maybe I just don't understand his point of view. I know he is important to her that's why I go through so much to make sure she sees him. I don't understand why to drive to meet me half way to see her is too much for him and he would rather risk her safety than be inconvenienced.

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9. myLot reputation of 90/100. CoffeeAnyone (1943)   ranked 391 out of 9,010 in parenting   5 years ago

I know a lot of parents do this kind of thing with their kids, leaving it up to the airline stewardess to watch over them. But who cares what they do; your right it won't be your child! Father dear is not thinking clearly or he is so focused on what is best for him he is forgetting what is best for his little girl! Maybe all you need to do is remind him of the horrors your little girl could face alone on an airplane. Did he not see the news last week when a women was molested. h here is one more to the point...http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=3637 ,,,, this are the situaions that can so easily and quickly happen. We do not take chances with our childs life if we can help it.


JaLuvYa (77)   ranked 1,108 out of 9,010 in parenting  5 years ago

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I didn't even think to google examples of when things go wrong and send them to him and see how he feels then. Maybe he needs to see that this stuff does happen.

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10. myLot reputation of 91/100. sudiptacallingu (8859)   ranked 74 out of 9,010 in parenting   5 years ago

No you are not wrong, you are very correct and sensible. You see anything can happen anytime so why risk something that is invaluable to you? If suppose you had a vary valuable and costly gemstone or something like that, would you ever let it lose, open, among strangers? So why your daughter specially when human life and dignity is indispensable & invaluable? And (God forbid) if something does ever happen the loss will be yours all the more coz you are the mother. So cling on to your princess till you are absolutely sure that she can take care of herself reallly well and dont lend a ear to who says what.


JaLuvYa (77)   ranked 1,108 out of 9,010 in parenting  5 years ago

She is an amazing child and I thank God everyday for her. I could never forgive myself for letting something happen to her that could have been completely avoided. Thanks for your reply:)

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