Have You Ever Just Found Out A "Celebrity" That You Knew Had Passed Away?  |
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| I had been involved with a discussion by worldwise about the passing of a rather well-known Native American actor, Floyd Red Crow Westerman. I gave her a link to a website that is a listing of all Native American actors....so curious I started puttering around the site myself, and came up with a familiar name, Rino (pronounced Reeno) Thunder. So clicked on his link to his site and found out to my dismay he had died back in 2003! What was shocking for me, was that I actually knew him. This goes back to the late 1970s. Being part Native American myself I perchance went to an outdoor powwow at the Museum of the American Indian..I took my camera with me and got some excellent photos, mainly using black and white film. Then I found out about the American Indian Community House (AICH) in Manhattan and at the time they were having a gallery Exhibit of Native art work. I asked permission if I could photograph some of the work and they said it was all right. A few weeks later, I went back to them, with a small portfolio of some of the black and white prints I had made up as I knew how to develop my own film and prints. I showed off my work to some of the staff members and they were so impressed that right then and there they asked me to in effect be their "official" photographer to photograph future exhibits, the powwows, to photograph their jewelry that they made on site and to photograph some of the people that belonged to AICH as many were aspiring actors who wanted their 8x10 glossy resume photos ..and yes, you can guess just who was one of the people I photographed...Rino Thunder...you can say it was a classic case of knowing him before he got "famous"--he was seen in some of the following movies: Film · 7th Street (2002) · Fresh Kill (1994) · Geronimo: An American Legend (1993) · Beyond the Law (1992) · Hot Shots! (1991) · Power (1986) · Wolfen (1982) Television · Miracle in the Wilderness 1992 · Invisible Thread Penn & Teller 1987 · Three Sovereigns For Sarah - American Playhouse 'John The Indian' 1985 · Stone Pillow Starring Lucille Ball 1985 · Dance in America 'Song For Dead Warriors' - Narrator (Emmy Award) 1984 · Johnny Appleseed And The Frontier Within - 'Shamen' (Emmy Award) 1983 · Leatherstocking Tales - Singing Bear (Emmy Award: Outstanding Childrens' Anthology/Dramatic Programming) 1982 When I photographed him he took on the stance of the very serious person, the classic "stoic" Indian-- never cracked a smile, but he did have a wicked sense of humor. I unfortunately don't have any of my photos of him printed up..but I do still have all the negatives of all the people I had photographed during that time. Anyway, like I said you can imagine my shock when I was looking at that website, only to find out he had passed away in 2003..odd, as I never even remember anything mentioned about his passing..I surely would have remembered hearing about it. http://www.tv.com/rino-th... So have any of you actually known any "celebrities"? And then found out they had passed away? All I know I really feel a sadness about having learned of this actor's passing.. | | | | | |
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1. someonesmom (2277)
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5 years ago
| | Hi pyewacket, Congratulations on being the official photographer for them. I've never actually heard of the two actors you've mentioned, but am familiar with a couple of the movies that they've appeared in. 'Wolfen,' and 'Stone Pillow' ring a bell with me. I'm sorry to hear that Rhino passed away. The closest I can come to what you're speaking of here, is that 'many years ago,' I had the priviledge to see Yul Brenner perform live onstage, in the King and I, in which he played his famous movie role of the King of Siam. I remember the dance he did with 'the teacher' ... Mrs Anna, I believe, being fabulous. It was just as wonderful as when he danced with Deborah Kerr in the movie. We had great seats, and so I could really take the whole thing in. Not long after this show closed 'in Toronto,' Yul Brenner passed away. His death onstage had moved me to tears, and I felt a profound sadness, upon hearing of his actual passing. I'd just felt so connected, because I'd really got to see him perform. | | | | | | |
pyewacket (12221)
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5 years ago
| | You had a rare and special treat then in being able to see Yul Brenner in the King and I and shortly before he died...I remember how great he was in the movie. | | | |
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2. GnosticGoddess (3488)
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5 years ago
| | That's really cool that you were the official photographer for them!! And it sucks that he died and you're just now finding out too. | | | | | | |
pyewacket (12221)
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5 years ago
| | Yes, it does suck I only found out now....but I guess since he wasn't a real Mainstream actor his death was probably never even announced :( | | | |
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3. faith210 (8505)
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5 years ago
| | Hi pyewacket! Oh, that is sad. You must have been shocked when you learned about the news somehow. I am sure that somehow you will be affected when someone pass away whom you knew somehow . However, the only celebrity I knew on a personal basis but not that really close is still alive and kicking and I am glad she still is. She was our neighbor before when we were a lot younger and when she was still not a famous celebrity reporter here. Take care!
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pyewacket (12221)
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5 years ago
| | Hi faith..haven't seen you in awhile Mmmm...you got me curious..who is the person/celebrity you used to know? | | | |
faith210 (8505)
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5 years ago
| | Hi pye! Been to hibernation for more than a month. haha..Now I am back! The celebrity reporter I knew is here from our country. She is one of the famous talk show personality/reporter here in the Philippines. Her name is Lolit Solis, I was very young when she married our neighbor and I used to go their house because their nieces are my playmates. Take care and have a nice day! :) | | | |
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4. polachicago (8508)
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5 years ago
| | I knew Chris Farley from SNL. He was funny and very shy in private life. He was also very religious. He was very fun person to talk to. I was shocked when he died so young (of a drug overdose in 1997) | | | | | | |
pyewacket (12221)
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5 years ago
| | Funny how people can be in "real" life. I remember Farley as being sort of the wild man in SNL and in his movies. I used to know another actress...Anita Morris....met her during her time when she performed in Jesus Christ Superstar...she was a real sweetheart and kind person, AND very intelligent, but in many of her roles she played a red-haired version of a Marilyn Monroe type...in other words a dumb ditz....she passed away back in 1994 of cancer | | | |
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5. sumofalltears (2673)
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5 years ago
| | That must have been a shock for you, but it may not have been widely publicized when he passed since he may have been out of the limelight for a long time. I don't remember hearing anything about Westerman passing on but then my memory is not always the best. I do remember Westerman from the tv series Walker. I am sad to hear he has passed away and I hope he has seen his just rewards at the hands of whichever God he believed in. | | | | | | |
pyewacket (12221)
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5 years ago
| | It's a shame that such actors aren't mentioned as having passed away...but as you said, maybe cause they weren't big, mainstream "actors" they didn't have any notice of their passing...sad in a way | | | |
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6. BarBaraPrz (6650)
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5 years ago
| | Well, I can't say as I can place Rino, but Floyd fer sure... Lakota arthritis remedy spokesman, among other things. But I hadn't heard that he passed. | | | | | | |
pyewacket (12221)
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5 years ago
| | I got curious...I was looking up that Lakota remedy..yeesh is that ever expensive. | | | |
BarBaraPrz (6650)
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5 years ago
| | Yeah, well, what isn't these days? | | | |
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| 7. amyc17 (40)
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5 years ago
| | That has to be tough finding out that way! It's really cool that you were their photographer! I'm also not familiar with the people you have mentioned but it doesn't take away from the sadness non the less. Again, I'm sorry you had to find out that way! | | | | | | |
pyewacket (12221)
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5 years ago
| | Thank you...yes it was sad to hear about his death | | | |
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8. TheHairDresser (3350)
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5 years ago
| | I can't say that I have known any celebreties that have passed that I have known, no pye. What a great actor he sounds like however, and I am so sorry that he has passed. It is amazing as well, the work you have done with your photography, and great that you have the negatives as well. Speaking of celebreties passing, I myself, am very saddened at the passing of Heath Ledger at present. It does seem that it does affect us these great stars passing, even if we did not personally know them, and you were fortunate to have met Rino. I'll bet he was an awesome presence to be near. | | | | | | |
pyewacket (12221)
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5 years ago
| | Yes, I'm saddened by Heath Ledger's death too..he was so young and really getting on in his acting career | | | |
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9. Perspectives (2261)
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5 years ago
| | What an interesting set of circumstances...thanks for posting this. It is a great reminder of how we touch each other's lives...often only passing by like the proverbial ships in the night without full awareness at the time. Then, like you an echo from the past comes back to awaken us to the fact that there was something more. I have never had something like this occur...but it makes a great read. It is also a loving, respectful tribute to someone who many others may not be aware of...as is the care for me. Sorry that someone who touched your life has passed away..but you have paid tribute...and the memories of your encounter are here for as long as Mylot allows it to be so. Raia | | | | | | |
pyewacket (12221)
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5 years ago
| | Mmm...can't wonder if my paying tribute to Rino Thunder just opened a new door for me...I've started a discussion about my new "discovery" I have so many photos on black and white negatives, including all those photos I took of many Native American people including Rino Thunder...I've been disheartened that since I just plain haven't had the funds to get darkroom supplies I haven't been able to print my work...and then lo and behold, maybe due to sheer stubbornness in trying to figure things out, I discovered how to scan my black and white negatives and make them positive...So if it hadn't been my desire to try to get some kind of photo of Rino Thunder, I never would have discovered how to scan my black and white negatives...---I posted a photo of him in worldwise's response here...Funny how one thing can lead into another..is it not? | | | |
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10. Lakota12 (23197)
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5 years ago
| | I was so hopeing that a picture of him was in there. The only movie that you meantion I have seen is Geronimo Ameerican LEdgen. SO now I still dont know which one he was. And I have met Rex Allen A westernmoviestar and singer and his horse Cocoa. Also MArty Robbins a country western Singer . was so sad whn I heard MArty passed away am sure That Rex has probably passe away too. and I have lived in the town he was born Wilcox Arizona VEy small town! | | | | | | |
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