In Like A Lion, Out Like a Lamb - So What’s All The Fuss About?

@Darkwing (21583)
March 10, 2008 1:47pm CST
The old saying goes that “March comes in like a lion, and out like a lamb”. So what’s new? Ever since I can remember, that has been the case. There is always a high Spring Tide, and with it the stormy winds and rain come. Why does the media have to make so much fuss about it? In the early hours of this morning, storms hit Britain. The first to suffer these storms was southern Ireland, at 11.00 p.m., last night with gusts of 70 mph winds, followed in the wee small hours, by Pembrokeshire, in South Wales and the Devon coast with gusts of up to 82 mph. The storms spread quickly across Britain, affecting the whole of the south coast, and as far up the east coast as Ipswich, in Suffolk., leaving fallen trees, damaged buildings, pebble-strewn coastal roads, and floods, in their wake. Fierce, high waves crashed over sea walls and sea defences, causing flooding and transport chaos. Power was lost in many homes in Wales and the West Country and a caravan park had to be evacuated in Devon. All of this was the “norm”, for this time of the year. The Spring Tide always comes at the same time, and the storms always come with it. None of this was unexpected and none of the damage was anywhere near as devastating as the 114 mph winds of Hurricane Andrew, in October, 1987. Hurricane Andrew surprised us when a weatherman refuted reports of an approaching Hurricane, but these storms were expected and severe weather warnings put out, enabling people to make preparation, place sandbags and batten down the hatches for the coming onslaught. Portsmouth, Newhaven and Dover Ports were closed, along the south coast. Short-haul and domestic flights were cancelled and other flights delayed, and trains and traffic has been delayed, all over the place. I cast my mind back some years now, to when I lived in Brighton. One Spring Tide left a heavy tanker, the Athena B, washed up on the beach between the Brighton Pier and the Marina. It lay there for months before it could be refloated and removed from the beach. Another, sent a heavy cargo ship crashing into the West Pier, resulting in structural damage which left the pier unsafe. Now, with the constant stormy batterings of Spring and Autumn, and the fierce storms and high tides, plus wilful damage created by a fire, the West Pier stands severed from the promenade, a blackened wreck of a frame on the water. So… what I need to ask is, are you aware of high tides, and approaching storms of this kind? Do you think in this day and age of “Global Warming”, the media is making too much of it, and that they tend to blame damage to the ozone layer on this? Does the media really need to spend so much time on reports of bad weather, sometimes almost to the point of scaremongery? Or, do you tend to take it in your stride as a normal weather cycle? What are your thoughts on this? One quite good thing came out of all this though, when a couple, flying to England from America, arrived one hour ahead of their ETA, because of the strong winds. They had a smile on their faces, if nobody else did! lol.
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@weemam (13372)
10 Mar 08
every time a storm or gale is forecast I get anxious , I don't know why because personally we have only ever had our fence blown down , I get upset seeing the damage and I feel so much ( as you and many others do ) for the people whose homes keep getting flooded , I agree with you though my friend , If the put their money where their mouths are they could be building some kinds of barriers to save it happening again and again , ,each time it happens the government seem SOO surprised , Why? they need to start NOW before it happens again, we went for a drive yesterday and there was flooding all around us , one farm house was actually sitting on an island in the middle of their flooded field , my heart went out to them , Sorry pal . I went off a bit there xx
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@weemam (13372)
10 Mar 08
I have come to the conclusion as I have gotten older pal , that the powers that be only care what things cost , people are not important , it is what things costs ,all the factories are shut here and they have sent all the goods abroad and paying the poor people there sweat money so they can make gigantic profits here , there I go again lol xx
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@Darkwing (21583)
10 Mar 08
Lyme Regis, Dorset - Spring Tide  - Lyme Regis on the morning of 10th March, 2008, during Spring Tides and heavy winds.
Don't worry about "going off" my friend. That's what the site's for, to discuss and vent on topics. :) Yes, they should start building barriers, especially on parts of major rivers and reservoirs which threaten towns and cities. They've had some twenty years, at least to sort this out. They've levied a "Green Tax", and Community Tax, so where's all the money going? Community Tax costs each and EVERY household in the country, over £1000 per year! They should put it to far better use than they are. It's probably all going to support their stupid wars, and procurement of arms. That doesn't help us at all... we need protection against the Elements now! In 1987, when we suffered the wrath of Hurricane Andrew, they should have made a start on increasing our defenses against flooding. But no... that would mean too much expense and too much employment, wouldn't it? It would make far too much sense for the government to make a decision on it! Well, after five power cuts and a pretty rough day, I am at last able to spend a bit of time in here, and get something posted before my computer shuts down, and not one single sheep, or bird has hit my living room or bedroom window at speed, so all must be well out there! lol. Brightest Blessings, and thank you for your contribution, my dear friend. xxxx
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@Darkwing (21583)
10 Mar 08
Sheeesh... my picture title didn't come up. It's a picture taken in Dorset this morning, during Spring Tide and 82 mile per hour winds. Note how eerily blue and peaceful the sky is during all this oceanic turmoil!
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@hoghoney (3747)
• United States
13 Mar 08
I sure will be glad when spring comes in like a lion and goes out like a lamb and summer gets here. How ya been doing. Have not been on here much the past few weeks.
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@Darkwing (21583)
13 Mar 08
It's much calmer here today. We're expecting rain, but it's going to warm up again, so I think spring is at last here! I've been doing ok. I had missed you being around, and hope that things are ok with you, too. Brightest Blessings, and welcome back, my friend. x
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
10 Mar 08
Well I say they need to prepare People for it no doubt but I agree sometimes they go overboard about it I have still not taken of yet so I am safe at the moment lol Gissi is still on ground to even though he did try to go without me a couple of times lol Seriously they are making to much of it Love you xxxx
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@Darkwing (21583)
10 Mar 08
Yes, they need to prepare people for storms, to avoid all the insurance claims for flooding and loss of home contents... that's what it's all about, my friend! However, they don't need to border on scaremongery in order to get their point across. Eighty mile an hour winds can do damage, but not to any drastic extent. I think they're covering their mistakes of 1987, when they refused to believe the woman who phoned them and told them there was a hurricane headed for the south coast, from the English Channel. He played that down, and some hour and a half later, we were hit with 114 mile an hour winds in Brighton, which lasted sixteen, relentless hours, causing millions of pounds worth of damage and leaving people without power for months. Funny that... I just remarked in the previous response that none of the sheep in the field had been slammed against my living room window yet. ha ha ha. They're all ambling around he field as usual, albeit in twos and threes for shelter! Brightest Blessings, love and hugs. xxxx
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
11 Mar 08
Here they always track the hurricanes and tell people to evacuate or just be prepared Its the tornados that dont get the advanced notice here alot are caught unprepared things get ripped up and people die. Like they caom in the middle of the night with no warning or like the one my daughter was in came in under the radar it hit before any warning was givin for one of them but there was three came together and tore up heck. Miles wide path for over 20 miles on the ground up and down the hills unusal that was over 200,000 trees tore up and in all that no one was killed. But took our Trailer house 65 footer and tossed it over a 100 foot Black Jack tree and then the tree landed over where Linda landed under it a huge branch saved her. and hew nephew . But to answer you question some time I do think they tend to be oer talkitive on storms that happen this time of year! The ones they should really talk about is after they happen and how they dont hapen in certain months But as spring storms always come to make a real big deal out of them before they hit I just dont see it for they can only tell you its coming not what damage it MIGHT do.
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@Darkwing (21583)
12 Mar 08
Yes, I agree, hurricanes and tornadoes should be reported and the public made as safe as possible before they hit, but this is nothing in comparison with your hurricanes and tornadoes. It's just gale force winds, which are often here with the high, Spring Tides. The combination of the two causes quite a bit of damage around the coast with flooding and shingle flung over the sea defence walls, so... instead of wasting money talking about it, why don't they build the sea defences higher? We pay Community Tax, Green Tax, Income Tax and just about every other tax you can think of... so, they should stop putting the money into warring and warfare, and get things sorted which will benefit the community with what they've paid for. Grrrrrrrrrrrr. Brightest Blessings.
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
12 Mar 08
I do agree with you there . They should tend to home first! with all the taxes every one pays it should go to what needs to be fixed where ever you live!
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@Darkwing (21583)
12 Mar 08
That's right. We all work hard for the money to pay those taxes, and I, for one, don't want mine used in conflict. I would rather our homeland was made a better and safer place to live in, so that we can live in peace and harmony. I'm sure, by saying that, I'm echoing the thoughts of many of my country folk, as well as numerous cultures, worldwide. Brightest Blessings, my dear friend. xxx
• United States
12 Mar 08
I think global warming is a real thing we to need to be concerned about but not a lot of people are. I think that is one reason for the constant reminder on the news of it. However about the weather thing Of course we've always had bad weather and the normal bad weather shouldn't always be chalked up to global warming. If it's worse than normal (even if it's slightly worse) then yeah it's possible it is due to global warming. I love hearing about weather though. But then again I'm extremely scared of tornadoes LOL.
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@Darkwing (21583)
12 Mar 08
Yes, I agree with your concept on global warming, but there isn't much we can do about that now, is there? The only thing we can do is leave the hole to heal up naturally, as it is, at the moment. It'll take a couple of hundred years to be anything near healed, but why don't they stop sending up rockets and satellites and the stuff that [/b]really[b]damages the ozone layer, instead of spouting off about aerosols and such? Anyway, rant over... back to the issue. Yes, there should be warnings about potentially life-threatening weather fronts, like hurricanes and tornadoes, but these are normal gales which always occur at the time of the high, Spring Tides, so to my mind, they should be using the community tax and green tax we pay, to build sea defense walls higher, because they [/b]know it will come again next year. The same with out rivers and waterways which are near inhabited regions... we want to see something for our money. The whole of Britain pays community tax at a minimum average rate of £1000 per tax year, per household[b]. They must be raking it in, and where does it go? Well, the Iraq war springs to mind, for a start. It's about time they told us the truth and provided us with something we need, and showed us an account of where the taxes have gone. Hmmmmmm, did I just rant for a second time? . Sorry, my friend... I got a bit heated, but our country needs a darned good shake up. However... life goes on! Brightest Blessings, my dear friend, and thank you for your contribution. x
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@Darkwing (21583)
13 Mar 08
I actually found a report online which explained how the hole in the ozone layer is healing itself, albeit very slowly. They estimated that it would take at least two hundred years, and I think you're right that it will only happen, if we change our ways and stop abusing the ozone layer. Maybe that's what the Green Tax is for, perhaps to compensate businesses for changing to a cleaner way of emitting toxins and the like. I don't know, but I'd sure like an explanation as to why we have to pay this tax and what they are actually doing with the monies collected. If I was aware that I was really helping, then I would give it willingly, for our children and theirs, mainly.
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• United States
13 Mar 08
I do think letting it all heal naturally would be a great option but I'm afraid that the damage is to far gone for that and continue on with human life. It's a scary thought because we really can't tell for sure. PLUS if we don't actually change or stop doing the things that we are that's making the problem worse then we're not letting the earth heal. And I agree about sending things up into space :) I agree with you too that they should be building defense walls and things. I would love to see where each and every one of our tax dollars actually go too. Makes you wonder sometimes.
• United States
10 Mar 08
I do think that the weather is typical and that the media has made a bigger deal out of things than they should. I was told by a local weatherman that they are paid more to scare people. They claim this huge raging storm will come in and that people should take cover immediately and to "watch out" when in reality it's just a simple thunderstorm. I hate watching the weather for this very reason. I think that newscasters got bored and had to make things up to keep people's attention, have you ever noticed that the news generally only reports on things that are bad or scary?
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@Darkwing (21583)
10 Mar 08
Yes, I've noticed that too, my friend. In fact the whole media and meteorological department seem to verge, if not thrive on sensationalism, right now. We had it rough here from very early morning, until tea time, with occasional lulls in the wind, but despite several short power cuts, it seems no different to me. None of the sheep in the back field has been slammed against my living room window yet, and people have gone about their normal, daily business, outside. It's best to boycott the news and the weather forecasts in my opinion. :) Thank you for your contribution, and Brightest Blessings.
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@Celanith (2327)
• United States
11 Mar 08
I have heard the saying go like this "If March comes in like a Lion it will go out like a Lamb but if it comes in Like a Lamb it will go out like a Lion. However I have seen it come in like a lamb some years and go out like a lamb and the same goes for the lion. Where I live we have had mostly lamb like weather but they said it is going to become stormy most the rest of this week.
@Darkwing (21583)
11 Mar 08
Yes, it does vary, but it quite often works out that we get the rougher weather at the beginning of the month, so we expect it. I can't understand why so much fuss is made about "normal" weather. Brightest Blessings and thank you for your contribution.
@lecanis (16647)
• Murfreesboro, Tennessee
10 Mar 08
I think it is pretty crazy how the media (and everyone else) freaks out over things that happen every year. Where I live, there's usually a pretty bad snowstorm around mid-March, and people get really upset over it every year. Winter here in general is something people always make a huge deal over, as if it didn't happen every year. I suppose I whine about winter a lot myself, but I don't act as if I'm surprised when it happened. I'm really trying to find positive ways to look at the season, at least as long as I'm going to live somewhere that has snow over half the year. I'm not quite there yet, but I'm still trying. :)
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@Darkwing (21583)
11 Mar 08
I think they act surprised because the weathermen make out like it's unusual weather, particularly severe or something, and some people don't even consider what's happened in previous years.. they just believe all they're told. Now, people like you and I, who contemplate the Elements and Nature all the time, and incorporate them in our work, notice what happens, and that it's a cycle. We make time to know about these things, so when it comes the next year, we are prepared for it. I'm not saying we have to enjoy it... I hate gales and lashing rain together, but we get used to it, and accept it as an act of Nature. If you can't find anything positive about Winter, it's not surprising, my friend, but you could look past it to Spring and new beginnings, which would help you through the "Dark Season". :) Brightest Blessings. xx
@ElicBxn (64169)
• United States
10 Mar 08
I remember the time my mom was flying in from NJ in the winter. Her flight was to be in 2 hours before the flight from Denver. Well, about an hour after her flight should've arrived the flight from Denver arrived, an hour early. It was another hour before her plane came in fighting the headwind.
@Darkwing (21583)
10 Mar 08
Yes, I agree, two hours is a long time, and very disconcerting.
@Darkwing (21583)
10 Mar 08
Wow... it's amazing how the wind can either carry along, or hold back such a heavy machine, isn't it? I'll bet you were pretty anxious about your Mum, huh? Brightest Blessings and thank you for sharing your story. x
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@ElicBxn (64169)
• United States
10 Mar 08
We were getting concerned. I've gotten a half hour boost before but nothing like that.
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@mummymo (23706)
11 Mar 08
I hadn't heard about the early arrival of that flight sweety - I guess that shows there is always a silver lining to be found! lol I have to admit I havbe been a bit fed up with the media coverage of this weather - don't get me wrong I feel for the people affected but we had winds of almost the same speed and terrible rainstorms a week ago and it was barely mentioned! We were told to expect blizzards too mind you and haven't seen as much as a flake of snow! xxxx
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@Darkwing (21583)
11 Mar 08
They did predict blizzards for Scotland this time, my friend, but I don't know whether you had them. They were mainly on the western side of the country. From my knowledge, I believe you have extremes of weather where you are? That's probably why they didn't think too much of it, and here, I mainly get news for the south, so it's difficult to follow what's happening in Scotland unless it's something worthy of national news. We're having a sleet shower here at the moment. It almost looks like snow, but it's wet. That's more unusual than gales and rain, I'll be bound. ha ha ha. They missed that one, for sure! I think they made a fuss this time because of the mistakes with Hurricane Andrew and the trouble it caused. I remember that forecast, and MF (better not mention his whole name), saying that he'd received a call from a woman saying there was a hurricane approaching the south coast, which had been spotted in the English Channel. He laughed it off!!! Some ninety minutes later, we were hit by winds of 114 miles an hour and rain, which swept across the whole of Britain, leaving devastation in its wake. So, perhaps they were being cautious not to make the same mistake again, huh? Brightest Blessings, my dear friend. xxxx
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@Darkwing (21583)
13 Mar 08
I know it, my dear friend. It might brighten your day to know that Scotland was mentioned first and foremost on the weather forecast this morning. But then, maybe you'd rather you weren't in the forefront as far as the weather forecast goes. lol. xxxxx
@mummymo (23706)
13 Mar 08
I have to apologise sweetheart - i have just reread my answer and I cannot believe how cynical and bitter I sounded - that wasn't my intention! Where weemam and I live we are kind of surrounded by 3 ranges of hills so we are quite sheltered from the worst of the weather, I should be more grateful really! I do feel for those who have been affected by the awful weather conditions sweetheart I really do! xxxx
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@raydene (9871)
• United States
10 Mar 08
Well Doll She has come roaring in here in the Adirondack Mountains We are under a state of emergency still Many still have no power I'm looking forward to the gentle part xoxoxoxoxoxo
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@Darkwing (21583)
10 Mar 08
Oh boy! The mountains seem to trap that kind of weather. I hope you're soon out of it my dear friend. My thoughts and prayers are with you, in the calm after the storm, here. Brightest Blessings, love and hugs. xxxx