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myLot reputation of 98/100. Darkwing (7548)   ranked 14 out of 32,957 in life 4 years ago

The old saying goes that “March comes in like a lion, and out like a lamb”. So what’s new? Ever since I can remember, that has been the case. There is always a high Spring Tide, and with it the stormy winds and rain come. Why does the media have to make so much fuss about it?

In the early hours of this morning, storms hit Britain. The first to suffer these storms was southern Ireland, at 11.00 p.m., last night with gusts of 70 mph winds, followed in the wee small hours, by Pembrokeshire, in South Wales and the Devon coast with gusts of up to 82 mph. The storms spread quickly across Britain, affecting the whole of the south coast, and as far up the east coast as Ipswich, in Suffolk., leaving fallen trees, damaged buildings, pebble-strewn coastal roads, and floods, in their wake. Fierce, high waves crashed over sea walls and sea defences, causing flooding and transport chaos. Power was lost in many homes in Wales and the West Country and a caravan park had to be evacuated in Devon.

All of this was the “norm”, for this time of the year. The Spring Tide always comes at the same time, and the storms always come with it. None of this was unexpected and none of the damage was anywhere near as devastating as the 114 mph winds of Hurricane Andrew, in October, 1987. Hurricane Andrew surprised us when a weatherman refuted reports of an approaching Hurricane, but these storms were expected and severe weather warnings put out, enabling people to make preparation, place sandbags and batten down the hatches for the coming onslaught. Portsmouth, Newhaven and Dover Ports were closed, along the south coast. Short-haul and domestic flights were cancelled and other flights delayed, and trains and traffic has been delayed, all over the place.

I cast my mind back some years now, to when I lived in Brighton. One Spring Tide left a heavy tanker, the Athena B, washed up on the beach between the Brighton Pier and the Marina. It lay there for months before it could be refloated and removed from the beach. Another, sent a heavy cargo ship crashing into the West Pier, resulting in structural damage which left the pier unsafe. Now, with the constant stormy batterings of Spring and Autumn, and the fierce storms and high tides, plus wilful damage created by a fire, the West Pier stands severed from the promenade, a blackened wreck of a frame on the water.

So… what I need to ask is, are you aware of high tides, and approaching storms of this kind? Do you think in this day and age of “Global Warming”, the media is making too much of it, and that they tend to blame damage to the ozone layer on this? Does the media really need to spend so much time on reports of bad weather, sometimes almost to the point of scaremongery? Or, do you tend to take it in your stride as a normal weather cycle? What are your thoughts on this?

One quite good thing came out of all this though, when a couple, flying to England from America, arrived one hour ahead of their ETA, because of the strong winds. They had a smile on their faces, if nobody else did! lol.


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1. myLot reputation of 24/100. CherBear04 (313)   ranked 11,342 out of 32,957 in life   4 years ago

I do think that the weather is typical and that the media has made a bigger deal out of things than they should. I was told by a local weatherman that they are paid more to scare people. They claim this huge raging storm will come in and that people should take cover immediately and to "watch out" when in reality it's just a simple thunderstorm. I hate watching the weather for this very reason. I think that newscasters got bored and had to make things up to keep people's attention, have you ever noticed that the news generally only reports on things that are bad or scary?


myLot reputation of 98/100. Darkwing (7548)   ranked 14 out of 32,957 in life  4 years ago

Yes, I've noticed that too, my friend. In fact the whole media and meteorological department seem to verge, if not thrive on sensationalism, right now. We had it rough here from very early morning, until tea time, with occasional lulls in the wind, but despite several short power cuts, it seems no different to me. None of the sheep in the back field has been slammed against my living room window yet, and people have gone about their normal, daily business, outside.

It's best to boycott the news and the weather forecasts in my opinion. :) Thank you for your contribution, and Brightest Blessings.

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2. myLot reputation of 95/100. gabs8513 (23375)   ranked 829 out of 32,957 in life   4 years ago

Well I say they need to prepare People for it no doubt but I agree sometimes they go overboard about it
I have still not taken of yet so I am safe at the moment lol
Gissi is still on ground to even though he did try to go without me a couple of times lol
Seriously they are making to much of it
Love you xxxx


myLot reputation of 98/100. Darkwing (7548)   ranked 14 out of 32,957 in life  4 years ago

Yes, they need to prepare people for storms, to avoid all the insurance claims for flooding and loss of home contents... that's what it's all about, my friend!

However, they don't need to border on scaremongery in order to get their point across. Eighty mile an hour winds can do damage, but not to any drastic extent. I think they're covering their mistakes of 1987, when they refused to believe the woman who phoned them and told them there was a hurricane headed for the south coast, from the English Channel. He played that down, and some hour and a half later, we were hit with 114 mile an hour winds in Brighton, which lasted sixteen, relentless hours, causing millions of pounds worth of damage and leaving people without power for months.

Funny that... I just remarked in the previous response that none of the sheep in the field had been slammed against my living room window yet. ha ha ha. They're all ambling around he field as usual, albeit in twos and threes for shelter!

Brightest Blessings, love and hugs. xxxx

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3. myLot reputation of 98/100. weemam (6718)   ranked 154 out of 32,957 in life   4 years ago

every time a storm or gale is forecast I get anxious , I don't know why because personally we have only ever had our fence blown down , I get upset seeing the damage and I feel so much ( as you and many others do ) for the people whose homes keep getting flooded , I agree with you though my friend , If the put their money where their mouths are they could be building some kinds of barriers to save it happening again and again , ,each time it happens the government seem SOO surprised , Why? they need to start NOW before it happens again, we went for a drive yesterday and there was flooding all around us , one farm house was actually sitting on an island in the middle of their flooded field , my heart went out to them , Sorry pal . I went off a bit there xx


myLot reputation of 98/100. Darkwing (7548)   ranked 14 out of 32,957 in life  4 years ago

Don't worry about "going off" my friend. That's what the site's for, to discuss and vent on topics. :)

Yes, they should start building barriers, especially on parts of major rivers and reservoirs which threaten towns and cities. They've had some twenty years, at least to sort this out. They've levied a "Green Tax", and Community Tax, so where's all the money going? Community Tax costs each and EVERY household in the country, over £1000 per year! They should put it to far better use than they are. It's probably all going to support their stupid wars, and procurement of arms. That doesn't help us at all... we need protection against the Elements now!

In 1987, when we suffered the wrath of Hurricane Andrew, they should have made a start on increasing our defenses against flooding. But no... that would mean too much expense and too much employment, wouldn't it? It would make far too much sense for the government to make a decision on it!

Well, after five power cuts and a pretty rough day, I am at last able to spend a bit of time in here, and get something posted before my computer shuts down, and not one single sheep, or bird has hit my living room or bedroom window at speed, so all must be well out there! lol.

Brightest Blessings, and thank you for your contribution, my dear friend. xxxx



myLot reputation of 98/100. Darkwing (7548)   ranked 14 out of 32,957 in life  4 years ago

Sheeesh... my picture title didn't come up. It's a picture taken in Dorset this morning, during Spring Tide and 82 mile per hour winds. Note how eerily blue and peaceful the sky is during all this oceanic turmoil!


myLot reputation of 98/100. weemam (6718)   ranked 154 out of 32,957 in life  4 years ago

I have come to the conclusion as I have gotten older pal , that the powers that be only care what things cost , people are not important , it is what things costs ,all the factories are shut here and they have sent all the goods abroad and paying the poor people there sweat money so they can make gigantic profits here , there I go again lol xx


myLot reputation of 98/100. Darkwing (7548)   ranked 14 out of 32,957 in life  4 years ago

That's not the "powers that be" my friend. That's a human error. Why do we sweat blood and tears for money?

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4. myLot reputation of 98/100. raydene (5491)   4 years ago

Well Doll

She has come roaring in here in the Adirondack Mountains

We are under a state of emergency still

Many still have no power

I'm looking forward to the gentle part

xoxoxoxoxoxo


myLot reputation of 98/100. Darkwing (7548)   ranked 14 out of 32,957 in life  4 years ago

Oh boy! The mountains seem to trap that kind of weather. I hope you're soon out of it my dear friend.

My thoughts and prayers are with you, in the calm after the storm, here. Brightest Blessings, love and hugs. xxxx

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5. myLot reputation of 99/100. ElicBxn (24688)   ranked 106 out of 32,957 in life   4 years ago

I remember the time my mom was flying in from NJ in the winter. Her flight was to be in 2 hours before the flight from Denver. Well, about an hour after her flight should've arrived the flight from Denver arrived, an hour early. It was another hour before her plane came in fighting the headwind.


myLot reputation of 98/100. Darkwing (7548)   ranked 14 out of 32,957 in life  4 years ago

Wow... it's amazing how the wind can either carry along, or hold back such a heavy machine, isn't it? I'll bet you were pretty anxious about your Mum, huh?

Brightest Blessings and thank you for sharing your story. x


myLot reputation of 99/100. ElicBxn (24688)   ranked 106 out of 32,957 in life  4 years ago

We were getting concerned. I've gotten a half hour boost before but nothing like that.


myLot reputation of 98/100. Darkwing (7548)   ranked 14 out of 32,957 in life  4 years ago

Yes, I agree, two hours is a long time, and very disconcerting.

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6. myLot reputation of 95/100. OreoCookie3 (22470)   4 years ago

Hi there Darkwing! March is the same for us. It comes in like a lion and goes out like a lamb.. except in GA we get a milder version of it. We get cold winds and rain and sometimes ice.. but by the end of March we can almost lay out in a bathing suit. It is really warm by the end of March.


myLot reputation of 98/100. Darkwing (7548)   ranked 14 out of 32,957 in life  4 years ago

Yes, there wasn't ice, but certainly hailstones out there. I don't know about warm enough for a bathing suit here, by the end of March, but certainly much calmer, sunnier weather is normally to be enjoyed.

Thank you for your contribution my friend. I like to learn about different parts of the World. Brightest Blessings. xx

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7. myLot reputation of 96/100. lecanis (7304)   ranked 269 out of 32,957 in life   4 years ago

I think it is pretty crazy how the media (and everyone else) freaks out over things that happen every year. Where I live, there's usually a pretty bad snowstorm around mid-March, and people get really upset over it every year. Winter here in general is something people always make a huge deal over, as if it didn't happen every year.

I suppose I whine about winter a lot myself, but I don't act as if I'm surprised when it happened. I'm really trying to find positive ways to look at the season, at least as long as I'm going to live somewhere that has snow over half the year. I'm not quite there yet, but I'm still trying. :)


myLot reputation of 98/100. Darkwing (7548)   ranked 14 out of 32,957 in life  4 years ago

I think they act surprised because the weathermen make out like it's unusual weather, particularly severe or something, and some people don't even consider what's happened in previous years.. they just believe all they're told.

Now, people like you and I, who contemplate the Elements and Nature all the time, and incorporate them in our work, notice what happens, and that it's a cycle. We make time to know about these things, so when it comes the next year, we are prepared for it. I'm not saying we have to enjoy it... I hate gales and lashing rain together, but we get used to it, and accept it as an act of Nature.

If you can't find anything positive about Winter, it's not surprising, my friend, but you could look past it to Spring and new beginnings, which would help you through the "Dark Season". :)

Brightest Blessings. xx

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8. myLot reputation of 96/100. mummymo (11642)   ranked 335 out of 32,957 in life   4 years ago

I hadn't heard about the early arrival of that flight sweety - I guess that shows there is always a silver lining to be found! lol I have to admit I havbe been a bit fed up with the media coverage of this weather - don't get me wrong I feel for the people affected but we had winds of almost the same speed and terrible rainstorms a week ago and it was barely mentioned! We were told to expect blizzards too mind you and haven't seen as much as a flake of snow! xxxx


myLot reputation of 98/100. Darkwing (7548)   ranked 14 out of 32,957 in life  4 years ago

They did predict blizzards for Scotland this time, my friend, but I don't know whether you had them. They were mainly on the western side of the country. From my knowledge, I believe you have extremes of weather where you are? That's probably why they didn't think too much of it, and here, I mainly get news for the south, so it's difficult to follow what's happening in Scotland unless it's something worthy of national news.

We're having a sleet shower here at the moment. It almost looks like snow, but it's wet. That's more unusual than gales and rain, I'll be bound. ha ha ha. They missed that one, for sure!

I think they made a fuss this time because of the mistakes with Hurricane Andrew and the trouble it caused. I remember that forecast, and MF (better not mention his whole name), saying that he'd received a call from a woman saying there was a hurricane approaching the south coast, which had been spotted in the English Channel. He laughed it off!!! Some ninety minutes later, we were hit by winds of 114 miles an hour and rain, which swept across the whole of Britain, leaving devastation in its wake. So, perhaps they were being cautious not to make the same mistake again, huh?

Brightest Blessings, my dear friend. xxxx


myLot reputation of 96/100. mummymo (11642)   ranked 335 out of 32,957 in life  4 years ago

I have to apologise sweetheart - i have just reread my answer and I cannot believe how cynical and bitter I sounded - that wasn't my intention! Where weemam and I live we are kind of surrounded by 3 ranges of hills so we are quite sheltered from the worst of the weather, I should be more grateful really! I do feel for those who have been affected by the awful weather conditions sweetheart I really do! xxxx


myLot reputation of 98/100. Darkwing (7548)   ranked 14 out of 32,957 in life  4 years ago

I know it, my dear friend. It might brighten your day to know that Scotland was mentioned first and foremost on the weather forecast this morning. happyBut then, maybe you'd rather you weren't in the forefront as far as the weather forecast goes. lol. xxxxx

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9. myLot reputation of 96/100. Lakota12 (23205)   ranked 180 out of 32,957 in life   4 years ago

Here they always track the hurricanes and tell people to evacuate or just be prepared Its the tornados that dont get the advanced notice here alot are caught unprepared things get ripped up and people die.
Like they caom in the middle of the night with no warning or like the one my daughter was in came in under the radar it hit before any warning was givin for one of them but there was three came together and tore up heck.
Miles wide path for over 20 miles on the ground up and down the hills unusal that was over 200,000 trees tore up and in all that no one was killed. But took our Trailer house 65 footer and tossed it over a 100 foot Black Jack tree and then the tree landed over where Linda landed under it a huge branch saved her. and hew nephew .
But to answer you question some time I do think they tend to be oer talkitive on storms that happen this time of year! The ones they should really talk about is after they happen and how they dont hapen in certain months But as spring storms always come to make a real big deal out of them before they hit I just dont see it for they can only tell you its coming not what damage it MIGHT do.


myLot reputation of 98/100. Darkwing (7548)   ranked 14 out of 32,957 in life  4 years ago

Yes, I agree, hurricanes and tornadoes should be reported and the public made as safe as possible before they hit, but this is nothing in comparison with your hurricanes and tornadoes. It's just gale force winds, which are often here with the high, Spring Tides. The combination of the two causes quite a bit of damage around the coast with flooding and shingle flung over the sea defence walls, so... instead of wasting money talking about it, why don't they build the sea defences higher? We pay Community Tax, Green Tax, Income Tax and just about every other tax you can think of... so, they should stop putting the money into warring and warfare, and get things sorted which will benefit the community with what they've paid for. Grrrrrrrrrrrr.

Brightest Blessings.


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lakota12 (23205)   ranked 180 out of 32,957 in life  4 years ago

I do agree with you there . They should tend to home first!
with all the taxes every one pays it should go to what needs to be fixed where ever you live!


myLot reputation of 98/100. Darkwing (7548)   ranked 14 out of 32,957 in life  4 years ago

That's right. We all work hard for the money to pay those taxes, and I, for one, don't want mine used in conflict. I would rather our homeland was made a better and safer place to live in, so that we can live in peace and harmony. I'm sure, by saying that, I'm echoing the thoughts of many of my country folk, as well as numerous cultures, worldwide.

Brightest Blessings, my dear friend. xxx


myLot reputation of 96/100. Lakota12 (23205)   ranked 180 out of 32,957 in life  4 years ago

HEar Hear!


myLot reputation of 98/100. Darkwing (7548)   ranked 14 out of 32,957 in life  4 years ago

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10. myLot reputation of 93/100. Celanith (2274)   ranked 1,827 out of 32,957 in life   4 years ago

I have heard the saying go like this "If March comes in like a Lion it will go out like a Lamb but if it comes in Like a Lamb it will go out like a Lion. However I have seen it come in like a lamb some years and go out like a lamb and the same goes for the lion. Where I live we have had mostly lamb like weather but they said it is going to become stormy most the rest of this week.


myLot reputation of 98/100. Darkwing (7548)   ranked 14 out of 32,957 in life  4 years ago

Yes, it does vary, but it quite often works out that we get the rougher weather at the beginning of the month, so we expect it. I can't understand why so much fuss is made about "normal" weather.

Brightest Blessings and thank you for your contribution.

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