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myLot reputation of 90/100. Ldyjarhead (3103)   ranked 53 out of 5,238 in have discussion on day to day issues3 months ago


.. or was that a zero?

One of my biggest pet peeves is when someone will be spouting off a number and using the letter 'O' instead of saying zero.

They are two entirely different things!

ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ

Is not at all like 12345678910

My area code is 740 - seven four ZERO ... not seven four O

Yes, they look pretty much alike, but you wouldn't say your phone number is five five five-seven el two two, would you? The el looks like a one, doesn't it?

To me that is one of the most common misuses of the English language, and it is so basic. Most children learn their letters and numbers long before hitting the school system, so why is that particular thing so grossly misunderstood?

Do you do it? Come on, you know you do!


 
 
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above31rubies (1403) response was accepted on 5/7/2008.
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1. myLot reputation of 99/100. kykidd (2461)   ranked 2,154 out of 5,238 in have discussion on day to day issues   3 months ago

I think I do this when it comes to phone numbers, or when it is obvious that it is a number. Even when I am talking about the year of a vehicle I will say "Is that an o eight". Sorry, if I irritate you.:)


myLot reputation of 90/100. Ldyjarhead (3103)   ranked 53 out of 5,238 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 months ago


I must admit that now that we're into the 21st century, if you don't say it like 'o eight' it does sound odd.

It's not right, though, it's just not! (stomping foot here).

Some scholar needs to come up with something that works better and put the word out.


happy


myLot reputation of 85/100. Modestah (7288)   ranked 484 out of 5,238 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 months ago

if I were to flub up this is the example of when it would happen - saying oh 8, however, I generally will say two thousand eight... and not oh 8.

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2. myLot reputation of 91/100. carmelanirel (4618)   ranked 474 out of 5,238 in have discussion on day to day issues   3 months ago

blush You caught me, yes I do that..But lately I have been trying not, but it still slips out sometimes.. blush It is strange though, why did people start saying that? Because like you said, we learn in kindergarten that an "O" is a letter and a "0" is a number, why do we call "0" an "O"?????


myLot reputation of 90/100. Ldyjarhead (3103)   ranked 53 out of 5,238 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 months ago


Exactly!

I slip too, but I'm pretty adamant when it's a series of numbers, like a phone number or something.

I think I hear the O used more than the zero, so it makes me wonder just where the slipup starts? Are we teaching our children wrong?

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3. myLot reputation of 93/100. gemini_rose (6219)   ranked 205 out of 5,238 in have discussion on day to day issues   3 months ago

Oh yes I have done this a few times before, in fact I lie, now I have just sat and thought about it I do it more than a few times. You are right though and I tell it to my kids too, and I have just realised that when I do they look at me gone out and it is because at school they are taught zero and not 0.


myLot reputation of 90/100. Ldyjarhead (3103)   ranked 53 out of 5,238 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 months ago


There ya go - busted!

happy

You're going to do better from now on, right? I'll be checking up on you.

wink

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4. myLot reputation of 89/100. RedFeather (246)   ranked 2,032 out of 5,238 in have discussion on day to day issues   3 months ago

i have a real problem with this too
and i also need to learn the words they use in the military to stand for the letters, also
see - i run an internet service - and there are a lot of times when my customers and i need to spell out usernames or passwords over the phone (come to think of it - i have do do this with my on name - first name starts with s, last name starts with f)
anyway - the difference between zero and "oh" is very important - so i'm in the habit of saying zero - even if it is obvious that we are only discussing digits...


myLot reputation of 90/100. Ldyjarhead (3103)   ranked 53 out of 5,238 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 months ago


Ah,the phonetic alphabet. I'm very familiar with that, being as I'm a retired Marine.

: )

I notice that the words chosen by 'civilians' to use for a particular letter are seldom what the official phonetic alphabet is. I've been on the phone spelling out my name or somesuch for someone and they pause and have to think about what I'm saying when I say 'R as in Romeo' or 'T as in Tango'.

 
5. myLot reputation of 93/100. winterose (11803)   ranked 417 out of 5,238 in have discussion on day to day issues   3 months ago

I never thought about this before but you are absolutely right. People do mistake an oh for a zero, and I don't know why. 1 and l is also a problem for me when I see it in an email, I am not sure if the letter or number.


myLot reputation of 90/100. Ldyjarhead (3103)   ranked 53 out of 5,238 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 months ago


I'm not talking about how it is typed, but how do you say it?

Do you say:

two zero

or

two oh???

 
6. myLot reputation of 97/100. above31rubies (1403)   ranked 331 out of 5,238 in have discussion on day to day issues   3 months ago

You aren't the only one with that pet peeve...lol. (scary)

I do say it when saying the time, or the total sale amount, even a house address- but only if it is a short number. I guess because that isn't a long string of numbers someone is trying to write down? Right now my address is 4 digits long and I say each one individually...and if there was a zero in it, I would say zero not o. So, I do not use it when I am giving a phone number or credit card number- that bugs me.

My other pet peeve is when people are giving me their phone number and they say "five five five- nineteen thirty two". That drives me nuts- not the "32" part so much but so often when they say "nine-teen" I write the 9 then have to go back and put in the 1 because I realize what they've done. Not a huge deal..but that is what pet peeves are,I suppose...those little annoyances.


myLot reputation of 90/100. Ldyjarhead (3103)   ranked 53 out of 5,238 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 months ago


Oh yes yes yes, that is another one!

I do the same thing, start writing down the number based on the first syllable out of their mouth and then realize it's wrong. Come on people, each number is independent when giving out a series like that.

 
7. myLot reputation of 90/100. CelticSoulSister (341)   3 months ago

Your peeve reminded me of one of mine that I haven't yet recorded on this site.

In past centuries, we've always called our years, like for instance 1966 we'd say in words, nineteen sixty six....for 1854 we's say in words, eighteen fifty four.

Why now that we're in the 21st century, do we say, in words for instance, two thousand and eight? Why don't we say twenty O eight?

Sorry I had to say O there instead of nought or zero...but never fear, that won't happen once we reach 2010, which no doubt we'll call two thousand and ten instead of twenty ten.


myLot reputation of 90/100. Ldyjarhead (3103)   ranked 53 out of 5,238 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 months ago


Yes, another oddity for sure.

I remember just before the turn of the century, we were all saying how odd it was to say 'two thousand' whatever. Now it doesn't seem odd at all.


myLot reputation of 87/100. DarkDancer (410)   ranked 1,600 out of 5,238 in have discussion on day to day issues  2 months ago

Actually I will call it twenty ten because I am a sciuence fiction fan and that's the way we always said the name of that Arthur C. Clarke book.

 
8. myLot reputation of 85/100. Modestah (7288)   ranked 484 out of 5,238 in have discussion on day to day issues   3 months ago

That is one of my peeves too! I am forever correcting the children and to my shame, I am also always correcting my husband. He is notorious for it.


myLot reputation of 90/100. Ldyjarhead (3103)   ranked 53 out of 5,238 in have discussion on day to day issues  3 months ago


I admit I still slip, but never when reciting a series of numbers.

I think it was pointed out to me once while I was in the Marine Corps. It's one of those little lessons that I never forgot!

 
9. myLot reputation of 98/100. anawar (949)   ranked 650 out of 5,238 in have discussion on day to day issues   3 months ago

No, I always use the correct way to express the letter o versus the number zero. I know someone who absolutey will not change from saying o to zero. They think it's a rule enforced on people who have the freedom to say whatever they want.

It drives me crazy. What kind of phone number is 6o7-3o12?
The o doesn't even correspond to the correct number on the phone! The letter 0 should land on zero to be correct.

Whatever. People say whatever they want to. I try not to cringe. It's free expression. I'm sure I have words that make other people cringe.

 
10. myLot reputation of 86/100. youdontsay (1971)   ranked 95 out of 5,238 in have discussion on day to day issues   3 months ago

It is confusing sometimes when people do that. Zero is a distinct word that really identifies a number. But "O" is lots of things, but not a number. And, yes, sometimes I do it, too. There is "Hawaii Five O", for instance. Come to think of it, that could be five Oprahs doing the hoola!

 
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